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Skookum Jim Messages: 3927
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 21 January 2022 15:23 |
Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 21 January 2022 16:17 | Don't remember the ugly skater part, I actually always thought his skating was great, he's a fast train, one of his assets.
You're right though every once and a while there is a decision, non-decision, that reveals what the thinking is of your pro-scouts, not pursuing Duclair was one of them, thinking Turris still had some gas left was another.
BTW I remember Anson Carter actually had a pretty ugly stride.. he did OK.
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https://www.capfriendly.com/players/anthony-duclair
Anthony Duclair is on a 3 year / 9 million dollar contract, which is a nice raise over the last couple of years . 31 point so far this season. What a nice complimentary player.
I didn't notice Huberdeau and Barkov playing together at all unless the Panthers were on the power play. Nor did I notice any 1:35 pp shifts.
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How's this for timing.. here is an article from McCurdy just now that fits in directly with this discussion..
https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /kyle-turris-placed-on-waivers-as-edmonton-oilers-search-for -solutionss
Quote: | ..Grumpy Oilers fans — and there are a lot of us these days — might take note that ten weeks after the Oilers rushed to sign Turris, Florida Panthers picked Anthony Duclair off the “bargain free agent” pile for a near-identical cap hit of $1.7 million. Last seen scoring against the Oilers last night, the Bill Zito signing has produced 27-36-63, +54 !!! in 75 games as a Panther over the exact same span that Turris has been in Edmonton. Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but Duclair was a known commodity coming off a 23-goal season at age 24 in Ottawa. And while it’s probably unfair to lay blame for not signing a specific player here or there, it is a matter of record that there have been precious few bargain signings by the Oilers in the Ken Holland era...
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+54?? .. +54??.. Holy Crap!
Not going after Duclair can't even be blamed on not using advanced stats.. he's a player your pro-scouts should have been able to evaluate without it.
[Updated on: Fri, 21 January 2022 16:48]
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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Skookum Jim Messages: 3927
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Here's your pro-scouts. Not sure if there's been a change since the Turris acquisition, declining to pursue Duclair ..
Only 4 pro-scouts?? Holy crap man.
I note two nepotism selections..
I think I sense the problem.. scorch earth this assembly.
ARCHIE HENDERSON (Director, Pro Scouting) .. Old buddy of Holland
CHRIS CICHOCKI PROFESSIONAL SCOUT
BRAD HOLLAND PROFESSIONAL SCOUT
PAUL MESSIER PROFESSIONAL SCOUT
SCOTT HARLOW AMATEUR SCOUT
JOHN HILL AMATEUR SCOUT
JOAKIM HOLM AMATEUR SCOUT
MITCH HOLMBERG AMATEUR SCOUT
JIM CROSSON AMATEUR SCOUT
ALEXANDER NAUROV AMATEUR SCOUT
MATTI VIRMANEN AMATEUR SCOUT
[Updated on: Fri, 21 January 2022 16:57]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Adam Messages: 6854
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 21 January 2022 16:51 | Here's your pro-scouts. Not sure if there's been a change since the Turris acquisition, declining to pursue Duclair ..
Only 4 pro-scouts?? Holy crap man.
I note two nepotism selections..
I think I sense the problem.. scorch earth this assembly.
ARCHIE HENDERSON (Director, Pro Scouting) .. Old buddy of Holland
CHRIS CICHOCKI PROFESSIONAL SCOUT
BRAD HOLLAND PROFESSIONAL SCOUT
PAUL MESSIER PROFESSIONAL SCOUT
SCOTT HARLOW AMATEUR SCOUT
JOHN HILL AMATEUR SCOUT
JOAKIM HOLM AMATEUR SCOUT
MITCH HOLMBERG AMATEUR SCOUT
JIM CROSSON AMATEUR SCOUT
ALEXANDER NAUROV AMATEUR SCOUT
MATTI VIRMANEN AMATEUR SCOUT
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Isn't that three nepotism hires? Paul Messier has been here a long time...
I don't think that the number is way off normal. Here's the groups for Tampa, Florida, Toronto and the New York Rangers. All between 3-5 pro scouts.
https://www.nhl.com/lightning/team/hockey-staff
https://www.nhl.com/panthers/team/scouts
https://www.nhl.com/mapleleafs/team/management https://www.nhl.com/rangers/team/front-office?icmp=int_web_n yr_front-off_subnav
Only the Rangers have a guy who shares the name of an exec - Justin Sather. I notice that the Oilers lost the service of Chiarelli's brother, only to have his mantle picked back up by Holland's son. I do wonder if when we're promising these guys league high salaries we really need to give them the green light to give all their family members jobs too...
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#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
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Skookum Jim Messages: 3927
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
3 Cups
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Adam wrote on Fri, 21 January 2022 16:18 | Isn't that three nepotism hires? Paul Messier has been here a long time...
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I only counted blood relations as nepotism.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Dragon_Matt Messages: 713
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Location: edmonton
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when you draft as well as we do, you don't need nepotism to keep your job.
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