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 Re: Oilers pitch bid with government to host games [message #762937 is a reply to message #762936 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:11

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:03

Connor lives in the JW Marriott building, right? Wonder if he gets to stay in his condo since it's within the bubble. Probably seen as some sort of advantage, but it would suck to live in the same building and then be forced to shack up in a smaller place and not get to see Lenny.

It does make me wonder what the residents of the Marriott building will do as they will be within the bubble confines, and likely have to leave for work.

Anyways, I think overall this is good news for the City of Edmonton and the NHL. Edmonton (and Vancouver) were the best places to host. After the NHL pushed Vancouver out, Edmonton and Toronto are the next best. The NHL and NHLPA may have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the right conclusion, but at least they landed there.

Now the NHL, NHLPA, and City of Edmonton just have to not be stupid about it. I don't think the bubble will be completely locked down (I think players will want to go for runs, play golf, etc), but they need to find a way to keep the players out of the bars, and from hooking up with the locals. The very worst case for both the NHL and the City of Edmonton is for this thing to result in a bubble outbreak or public outbreak and have the season come crashing to the ground or the city see a massive spike as a result of the guests.

They have to monitor where the players go, how they interact with, who gets in and out of the bubble. They have to not do stupid things like let asymptomatic players out of the hotel room (yes it sucks, but it is what it is. You can't have them mixing with other players or the Edmonton public). Already, there are something like 30 players with cases, and Virtanen was out posting pictures partying at a bar, so I'm skeptical of players showing the necessary discipline, but they really need to. And if they can't voluntarily, they need to be forced to.


I thought McDavid lived in a big modern cube house somewhere in town. He put up some videos recently of working out in his setups at home in the yard/garage.

Maybe he owns something at the JW too? Maybe to be fair and to eliminate home advantage he has to let Giordano live in it :)


Maybe. I've heard lots of locations of McDavid's "home", including Saskatchewan Drive (former), JW Marriott, and a few others. It was second hand I think I heard about the JW Marriott, that he designed his place during the build.

All I can really find to reference is...: https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/david-staples -6

...which granted, isn't much.

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 Re: Oilers pitch bid with government to host games [message #762939 is a reply to message #762937 ]
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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:16

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:11

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:03

Connor lives in the JW Marriott building, right? Wonder if he gets to stay in his condo since it's within the bubble. Probably seen as some sort of advantage, but it would suck to live in the same building and then be forced to shack up in a smaller place and not get to see Lenny.

It does make me wonder what the residents of the Marriott building will do as they will be within the bubble confines, and likely have to leave for work.

Anyways, I think overall this is good news for the City of Edmonton and the NHL. Edmonton (and Vancouver) were the best places to host. After the NHL pushed Vancouver out, Edmonton and Toronto are the next best. The NHL and NHLPA may have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the right conclusion, but at least they landed there.

Now the NHL, NHLPA, and City of Edmonton just have to not be stupid about it. I don't think the bubble will be completely locked down (I think players will want to go for runs, play golf, etc), but they need to find a way to keep the players out of the bars, and from hooking up with the locals. The very worst case for both the NHL and the City of Edmonton is for this thing to result in a bubble outbreak or public outbreak and have the season come crashing to the ground or the city see a massive spike as a result of the guests.

They have to monitor where the players go, how they interact with, who gets in and out of the bubble. They have to not do stupid things like let asymptomatic players out of the hotel room (yes it sucks, but it is what it is. You can't have them mixing with other players or the Edmonton public). Already, there are something like 30 players with cases, and Virtanen was out posting pictures partying at a bar, so I'm skeptical of players showing the necessary discipline, but they really need to. And if they can't voluntarily, they need to be forced to.


I thought McDavid lived in a big modern cube house somewhere in town. He put up some videos recently of working out in his setups at home in the yard/garage.

Maybe he owns something at the JW too? Maybe to be fair and to eliminate home advantage he has to let Giordano live in it :)


Maybe. I've heard lots of locations of McDavid's "home", including Saskatchewan Drive (former), JW Marriott, and a few others. It was second hand I think I heard about the JW Marriott, that he designed his place during the build.

All I can really find to reference is...: https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/david-staples -6

...which granted, isn't much.



I can't find the picture that I saw before. It kinda circulated a bit with Leafs fans making fun of McDavid's boring box shaped house and of course played along with how they say he has no personality and yadda yadda.

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 Re: Oilers pitch bid with government to host games [message #762940 is a reply to message #762935 ]
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Adam wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:06

Magnum wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 14:55

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 14:50

Magnum wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 14:41


It's like it should have been from the start, keep people at high-risk out of harm's way and let everyone else choose it they want the elevated risk. We don't stop people from working in the logging industry (most dangerous industry, Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 97.6, Covid UK [worst country]: 68/100K).


That's what Sweden did... and it didn't turn out great, to be honest.

There's a lot of interests to balance and try and careful find the right weight for each. But it isn't out of place to the government to mandate certain temporary measures in the interest of public safety.

Ultimately people are going to make their own choices, but it isn't just deaths people should be concerned about (although they certainly should be concerned about that too). There's a lot of long-term damage that can be done, and in the case of athletes, it has the potential to be career-ending. It's low probability, but high stakes. I wouldn't fault any athlete for opting out for a season to protect their long-term career outlook.


Oddly, it was better than Spain, the UK, Italy, and God knows how many other countries that did full shut downs.


That's not really odd. Italy and Spain were both hit early, before the severity was really known. Their health systems were swamped before they did a shut down.

Sweden, like Canada, had the benefit of seeing what happened in other countries and adapting to that. The UK also didn't do a full shutdown early - they in fact said they were pursuing a herd immunity strategy at the point where other nations were shutting down. That went so poorly that they had to switch course.

As I've said before, with Sweden, if you compare it to the other Scandinavian countries, who got the first cases around the same time and who did shut downs as opposed to what Sweden did, the per capita cases and deaths are much worse for Sweden. Even the Swedish government has now said that their strategy was flawed, so unless you cherry pick stats, that is objectively not the best strategy to pursue.


Again, it's not death that measures the effectiveness of a lock down. Do you understand that? If not, no point in reading further.

Cherry picking stats of five countries that did worse. Right. Why can you only compare the two neighbours? Because they're titled as Scandinavian? Talk about cherry picking.

You probably haven't looked at the excess death stats. Maybe do that, if you're worries about deaths. Sweden didn't do that poorly at all, except if you cherry pick the stats and focus on two countries because they're land masses are close. Here's the excess death stats.

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

Now, most of Sweden's population is closer to Belgium, Lituania, Latvia, The Netherlands, Poland, and German than it is to the population masses of Norway and/or Finland.

The reality is, is that if you look at Europe... or if you must, look a countries near the population centers of Sweden, then they maybe did slightly worse, but definitely not the worst, yet had the weakest lockdown. Why is that? Because they're Scandinavian is not an adequate answer, but it is an easy conclusion - albeit wrong.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Population_density_by_NUTS_3_region_%282017%29.svg/1200px-Population_density_by_NUTS_3_region_%282017%29.svg.png

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 Re: Oilers pitch bid with government to host games [message #762941 is a reply to message #762940 ]
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 Re: Oilers pitch bid with government to host games [message #762942 is a reply to message #762940 ]
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Magnum wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 16:18

Adam wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:06

Magnum wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 14:55

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 14:50

Magnum wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 14:41


It's like it should have been from the start, keep people at high-risk out of harm's way and let everyone else choose it they want the elevated risk. We don't stop people from working in the logging industry (most dangerous industry, Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 97.6, Covid UK [worst country]: 68/100K).


That's what Sweden did... and it didn't turn out great, to be honest.

There's a lot of interests to balance and try and careful find the right weight for each. But it isn't out of place to the government to mandate certain temporary measures in the interest of public safety.

Ultimately people are going to make their own choices, but it isn't just deaths people should be concerned about (although they certainly should be concerned about that too). There's a lot of long-term damage that can be done, and in the case of athletes, it has the potential to be career-ending. It's low probability, but high stakes. I wouldn't fault any athlete for opting out for a season to protect their long-term career outlook.


Oddly, it was better than Spain, the UK, Italy, and God knows how many other countries that did full shut downs.


That's not really odd. Italy and Spain were both hit early, before the severity was really known. Their health systems were swamped before they did a shut down.

Sweden, like Canada, had the benefit of seeing what happened in other countries and adapting to that. The UK also didn't do a full shutdown early - they in fact said they were pursuing a herd immunity strategy at the point where other nations were shutting down. That went so poorly that they had to switch course.

As I've said before, with Sweden, if you compare it to the other Scandinavian countries, who got the first cases around the same time and who did shut downs as opposed to what Sweden did, the per capita cases and deaths are much worse for Sweden. Even the Swedish government has now said that their strategy was flawed, so unless you cherry pick stats, that is objectively not the best strategy to pursue.


Again, it's not death that measures the effectiveness of a lock down. Do you understand that? If not, no point in reading further.

Cherry picking stats of five countries that did worse. Right. Why can you only compare the two neighbours? Because they're titled as Scandinavian? Talk about cherry picking.

You probably haven't looked at the excess death stats. Maybe do that, if you're worries about deaths. Sweden didn't do that poorly at all, except if you cherry pick the stats and focus on two countries because they're land masses are close. Here's the excess death stats.

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

Now, most of Sweden's population is closer to Belgium, Lituania, Latvia, The Netherlands, Poland, and German than it is to the population masses of Norway and/or Finland.

The reality is, is that if you look at Europe... or if you must, look a countries near the population centers of Sweden, then they maybe did slightly worse, but definitely not the worst, yet had the weakest lockdown. Why is that? Because they're Scandinavian is not an adequate answer, but it is an easy conclusion - albeit wrong.



Ugh...I know it's a waste of my time to explain things in intricate detail when someone is trying hard not to listen, but there's more than geographical reasons to compare Sweden with the other Scandinavian countries - of which I include Denmark, who did shut down and has much better numbers than Sweden.

Death and infection rates are important and should both be looked at. If I had a ton of time, I'd try to find information on the speed of the spread too - it was that which forced the UK to take this more seriously as the number of cases ramped up quickly and forced them to change their tack.

You have listed several countries as close to your example, so let's look at them along with Finland, Denmark and Norway:

Sweden - 69,692 cases	5,370 deaths	Cases/MM 6,901	Deaths/MM 532	Tests 519,113	Tests/MM 51,400  1st cases March 3rd
Finland - 7,236 cases	328 deaths	Cases/MM 1,306	Deaths/MM 59	Tests 246,000	Test/MM 44,398   1st cases March 1st
Norway - 8,896 cases	251 deaths 	Cases /MM 1,641	Deaths/MM 46	Tests 338,860	Tests/MM 62,505 1st cases Feb 27th
Denmark - 12,794 cases	606 deaths	Cases/MM 2,209	Deaths/MM 105	Tests 1,071,479	Test/MM 184,984  1st cases March 3rd	
Belgium - 61,509 cases	9,754 deaths	Cases/MM 5,307	Deaths/MM 842	Tests 1,239,232	Tests/MM 106,924  1st cases March 5th
Lithuania - 1,818 cases	78 deaths		Cases/MM 668	Deaths/MM 29	Tests 428,238	Tests/MM 157,335  1st cases March 10th
Latvia - 1,121 cases	30 deaths 		Cases/MM 594	Deaths/MM 16	Tests 152,778	Test/MM 81,007  1st cases March 8th
Netherlands - 50,335 cases	6,113 deaths	Cases/MM 2,938	Deaths/MM 357	Tests 616,376	Tests/MM 35,972 1st cases March 4th
Poland - 34,775 cases	1,477 deaths	Cases/MM 919	Deaths/MM 39	Tests 1,546,510	Tests/MM 40,863  1st cases March 6th
Germany - 196,324 cases	9,061 deaths	Cases/MM 2,343	Deaths/MM 108	Tests 5,873,563	Test/MM 70,103  1st cases March 5th


So, using the sample group you proposed, with my couple additions for Sweden's neighbours we see that Sweden is by far the hardest hit in cases per million, and 2nd only to Belgium in deaths per million. That's not a coincidence, and even the epidemiologist behind Sweden's strategy thinks that:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-03/man-behin d-sweden-s-virus-strategy-says-he-got-some-things-wrong

Objectively you get worse results without the shut down. Can we please stop pretending that Sweden shows otherwise?

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 Re: Oilers pitch bid with government to host games [message #762943 is a reply to message #762939 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:44

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:16

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:11

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 15:03

Connor lives in the JW Marriott building, right? Wonder if he gets to stay in his condo since it's within the bubble. Probably seen as some sort of advantage, but it would suck to live in the same building and then be forced to shack up in a smaller place and not get to see Lenny.

It does make me wonder what the residents of the Marriott building will do as they will be within the bubble confines, and likely have to leave for work.

Anyways, I think overall this is good news for the City of Edmonton and the NHL. Edmonton (and Vancouver) were the best places to host. After the NHL pushed Vancouver out, Edmonton and Toronto are the next best. The NHL and NHLPA may have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the right conclusion, but at least they landed there.

Now the NHL, NHLPA, and City of Edmonton just have to not be stupid about it. I don't think the bubble will be completely locked down (I think players will want to go for runs, play golf, etc), but they need to find a way to keep the players out of the bars, and from hooking up with the locals. The very worst case for both the NHL and the City of Edmonton is for this thing to result in a bubble outbreak or public outbreak and have the season come crashing to the ground or the city see a massive spike as a result of the guests.

They have to monitor where the players go, how they interact with, who gets in and out of the bubble. They have to not do stupid things like let asymptomatic players out of the hotel room (yes it sucks, but it is what it is. You can't have them mixing with other players or the Edmonton public). Already, there are something like 30 players with cases, and Virtanen was out posting pictures partying at a bar, so I'm skeptical of players showing the necessary discipline, but they really need to. And if they can't voluntarily, they need to be forced to.


I thought McDavid lived in a big modern cube house somewhere in town. He put up some videos recently of working out in his setups at home in the yard/garage.

Maybe he owns something at the JW too? Maybe to be fair and to eliminate home advantage he has to let Giordano live in it :)


Maybe. I've heard lots of locations of McDavid's "home", including Saskatchewan Drive (former), JW Marriott, and a few others. It was second hand I think I heard about the JW Marriott, that he designed his place during the build.

All I can really find to reference is...: https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/david-staples -6

...which granted, isn't much.



I can't find the picture that I saw before. It kinda circulated a bit with Leafs fans making fun of McDavid's boring box shaped house and of course played along with how they say he has no personality and yadda yadda.


McD lives somewhere near the zoo. Still I bet numerous oilers have places right by the arena nowadays.

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Also, scroll the bar on week to week excess deaths, and you see Sweden spike up in week 13, and stay at High to Very High for several weeks. It's notably higher than any of its neighbours and only compares favourably to the early hit countries.

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Adam wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 20:33

Also, scroll the bar on week to week excess deaths, and you see Sweden spike up in week 13, and stay at High to Very High for several weeks. It's notably higher than any of its neighbours and only compares favourably to the early hit countries.


Veering off topic a bit Mags and Adam, aren't we? The thing that's amusing about your different points of view is that you're talking about the same things, just how one nation is more effective or less effective against covid-19.

It actually doesn't matter how the data is presented, I think it can be distilled to a few things but ultimately it's about prevention. The spread of the virus in asymptomatic people is by far the hardest to protect and no matter if there is a bubble or protocols nothing stops anything if the carrier doesn't know they have the virus.

The bubble in Edmonton must be stringently and the NHL is going to go through hundreds of thousands of tests and everyone near a player should be tested. From wait staff to the bellhops, from the POHO to the guys preparing the rink, all of it, and in great frequency. Fail in that and this whole house of cards falls flat.

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Adam wrote on Thu, 02 July 2020 20:33

Also, scroll the bar on week to week excess deaths, and you see Sweden spike up in week 13, and stay at High to Very High for several weeks. It's notably higher than any of its neighbours and only compares favourably to the early hit countries.


Okay, so you don't know what a lockdown is for.

Also, Bloomberg v Euromomo. Brutal.

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not entirely accurate. An asymptomatic person that wears a mask in public will prevent their own spread by 95%.
An asymptomatic person who social distances and respects others distancing themselves will prevent the spread by 98.5%

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Dragon_Matt wrote on Fri, 03 July 2020 09:32

not entirely accurate. An asymptomatic person that wears a mask in public will prevent their own spread by 95%.
An asymptomatic person who social distances and respects others distancing themselves will prevent the spread by 98.5%




Follow the best practices inside a tight and secure bubble with testing, no one in or out, and your numbers are moot.

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The NHL finally makes the decision that was so blatantly obvious, just took them several weeks longer than it should.

Taking Covid out for a second, I never understood why Vegas was in there so long. I know it was all about money but nothing about the City made sense. They lack rinks and the weather has to be a factor. When it's above 40, you can't do anything in that. You can't be outside for long periods of time.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 06 July 2020 07:30

The NHL finally makes the decision that was so blatantly obvious, just took them several weeks longer than it should.

Taking Covid out for a second, I never understood why Vegas was in there so long. I know it was all about money but nothing about the City made sense. They lack rinks and the weather has to be a factor. When it's above 40, you can't do anything in that. You can't be outside for long periods of time.


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Jason Gregor apparently said an Oiler tested positive for COVID last week? Did anyone catch that to confirm? (I've just seen that on Twitter floating around).

Based on Bob Stauffer's projected training camp roster and who he expects to be here...

Oilers already in Edmonton skating for Phase II (can't verify all of them are STILL skating though):

McDavid*
Drasaitl*
Nugent-Hopkins*
Kassian*
Yamamoto*
Ennis*
Athanasiou*
Nygard*
Haas*
Marody*
Khaira*
Marody*
Sheahan*
Neal*
McLeod*
Archibald*
Chiasson
Benson
P. Russell

Broberg*
Larsson*
Nurse*
Lagesson*
Bouchard*
Benning*
Klefbom*
K. Russell

Bear


Skinner*
Koskinen*


(*video of them in camp after July 2 on Oilers social).


Oilers I don't believe are here yet:

Green
C. Jones

Smith
Wells
Rodrigue

If it's true someone tested positive, feels like it has to be Klefbom since that would be his luck. Or maybe Jones at a Trump rally?

(EDITED to add Sheahan, Neal, McLeod, and Bouchard on July 8.)
(EDITED to add Klefbom, Koskinen, and Archibald on July 9).

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mightyreasoner wrote on Tue, 07 July 2020 11:17

Jason Gregor apparently said an Oiler tested positive for COVID last week? Did anyone catch that to confirm? (I've just seen that on Twitter floating around).

Based on Bob Stauffer's projected training camp roster and who he expects to be here...

Oilers already in Edmonton skating for Phase II (can't verify all of them are STILL skating though):

McDavid*
Drasaitl*
Nugent-Hopkins*
Kassian*
Yamamoto*
Ennis*
Athanasiou*
Nygard*
Haas*
Marody*
Khaira*
Marody*
Chiasson
Benson
P. Russell

Broberg*
Larsson*
Nurse*
Lagesson*
Benning*
Bear


Skinner*

(*video of them in camp after July 2 on Oilers social).


Oilers I don't believe are here yet:

Sheahan
Archibald
Neal
McLeod

Klefbom
Green
K. Russell
C. Jones
Bouchard

Smith
Koskinen
Wells
Rodrigue

If it's true someone tested positive, feels like it has to be Klefbom since that would be his luck. Or maybe Jones at a Trump rally?


My money would be on Neal.

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I'm hearing rumblings that Edmonton will be the chosen spot for conference and Stanley Cup finals.

With the situation at the Miz this could be bad news with the whole hockey world full of entitled elitist attitudes gathering in our city. We still got time to handle this second wave and at least the experts are on top of the Miz situation and closed those borders fast.

So the Cup will be awarded in E-town! After all these years! Biggest question: Does Lowe get another ring no matter which team wins?

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Xombie wrote on Wed, 08 July 2020 15:00

I'm hearing rumblings that Edmonton will be the chosen spot for conference and Stanley Cup finals.

With the situation at the Miz this could be bad news with the whole hockey world full of entitled elitist attitudes gathering in our city. We still got time to handle this second wave and at least the experts are on top of the Miz situation and closed those borders fast.

So the Cup will be awarded in E-town! After all these years! Biggest question: Does Lowe get another ring no matter which team wins?

Well he will be with the Edmonton organization when the cup is won in Edmonton, so that's something. How many non-Montreal Canadiens can say that?

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Near as I can tell, only Oilers not here yet are:

Green
C. Jones
Smith


And maybe Wells and Rodrigue if they are bringing them.

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Caleb Jones listed today as "unfit to practice". Read that how you will.

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mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 13 July 2020 11:10

Caleb Jones listed today as "unfit to practice". Read that how you will.


Oh man, good call on Jones :)

Hope he is good to go soon. We need him.

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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 09 July 2020 17:13

Near as I can tell, only Oilers not here yet are:

Green
C. Jones
Smith


And maybe Wells and Rodrigue if they are bringing them.



Smith was there over the weekend.

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https://edmontonjournal.com/business/local-business/restaura nts-to-join-nhl-bubble

The league fails to convince Joey Bell Tower to become part of the bubble...which makes sense...why would they? They'd need to convince their staff to live in a hotel for two months, so they could serve only hockey teams.

Best part of this whole article though?

Quote:

Gary Tomchuk, managing partner with the Sherlock Holmes Hospitality Group, said in an email the restaurant hasn’t been approached by the league and without knowing all the details that would be required to be a part of the bubble, he couldn’t comment.


Why even include that? There's no value from that paragraph. Was the writer just trying to show he'd called an extra downtown restaurant? First off, probably would have been better to call Chop. Second, when I think fine dining, I think Sherlock Holmes! Third, how exactly do you manipulate the bubble to get players there without leaving the bubble or seeing anyone? I wouldn't wait by the phone waiting for the NHL to call, Gary Tomchuk!

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The wall is being built:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Edo2jKoUYAAkgkv?format=jpg&n ame=900x900

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/attachments/image-jpg.355159/
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Hope they don't cover all the fencing. Should let people view the players like they're zoo animals a little bit. Sitting in those sweet plastic chairs.

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The Edmonton 'Phase 4 Secure Zone', featuring a pop up sushi restaurant:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdqWpHkUEAIaky1?format=png&name=small

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The phase 4 secure zone needs a flood pond.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 24 July 2020 08:25

The phase 4 secure zone needs a flood pond.


Didn't even register that this guy was trying to pull off a huge burn about Edmonton being the only NHL city not along the ocean. Was just posting for the map :)

...Ouch.

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