bigEfromGP Messages: 813
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 09:05 |
bigEfromGP wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 08:44 | Trying to make sense of this...
Oilers must have decided that Talbot would not be the back up next year, which personally I am fine with. I think he would have expected too much or more likely Oilers would have simply offered him too much.
So if you accept that Oilers are looking for a new backup, it starts to make a bit more sense.
Trading for Stolarz gives an opportunity to see how he plays and if he fits the bill, then they have their backup. It's an advantage to have a trial run, if you would, of the back up before making a commitment.
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Rishaug on Twitter this morning saying that the Oil might not try to get him to the 10 games. That would be so completely Oilers.
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I actually agree with that strategy. Who cares if he loses RFA status? In all likelihood the backup for next year will be a UFA signing this summer. Stolarz doesn't change that, except that the Oilers get the luxury of giving him a few tryout games this season to see if he's an option.
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:00 | The president thinks he has the ideal male body.
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Magnum Messages: 839
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What? No. The cap can never be cleared. Nothing management does can change the Oilers’ cap situation.
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overdue Messages: 493
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After signing Koskinen the only way Talbot could have signed with Oilers was to take a huge cut in pay and that wasn't about to happen. A pretty big salary dump and and bringing in what is essentially a back up. ( that hasn't proven he isn't capable of doing the job yet ) Not sure what people think they could have gotten for Talbot but the way I see it he was an expiring contract that pooped the bed too many times in the last year and a half and really didn't have the big trade value some people think he did. Paint the devil on the wall before the guy has even put on an Oiler sweater! Welcome to Edmonton Stolarz and enjoy the heat under the magnifying glass of the Oiler rabid. Bet Talbot is jumping for joy right now and I wish him well in Philly. Playoffs are not in the cards in Edmonton anyway.
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That’s the thing. It’s very difficult to know if Talbot was good or not.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did well on a go forward basis. Like most players that leave the Oilers, I’m happy for him.
2015/2016 - This Kool-Aid tastes like McDavid flavoured Drain-O.
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NetBOG Messages: 2894
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 09:05 |
Rishaug on Twitter this morning saying that the Oil might not try to get him to the 10 games. That would be so completely Oilers.
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They may not care because he might not have any market as a UFA. With a 10% raise, the Oilers would have to qualify him at about $850,000. Is anybody else going to pay him that?
To go full Oilers, they would not play him enough, Koskinen gets hurt, and he drops 6 shutouts to finish the year and becomes UFA.
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Kr55 Messages: 9840
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Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
Cam Talbot is mulling over his options. He’s kept in touch with #Flyers, was pitched by a new team today, but the smart money would be on a return to Alberta ... with the #Flames.
Does Talbot come back to haunt us? Or does he play the same for the flames? Unfortunately, the Oilers fan in me says he goes supernova and pisses us all off :)
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nullterm Messages: 934
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 June 2019 19:50 | Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
Cam Talbot is mulling over his options. He’s kept in touch with #Flyers, was pitched by a new team today, but the smart money would be on a return to Alberta ... with the #Flames.
Does Talbot come back to haunt us? Or does he play the same for the flames? Unfortunately, the Oilers fan in me says he goes supernova and pisses us all off :)
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"If you have to ask the question..."
Players seem to love signing Flames contracts when they've been cast aside by the Oilers.
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 June 2019 20:50 | Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
Cam Talbot is mulling over his options. He’s kept in touch with #Flyers, was pitched by a new team today, but the smart money would be on a return to Alberta ... with the #Flames.
Does Talbot come back to haunt us? Or does he play the same for the flames? Unfortunately, the Oilers fan in me says he goes supernova and pisses us all off :)
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Good question. The Oilers defense not being good enough didn't help things but at the same time Talbot flat out wasn't that good for 2 straight years. I said it a long time ago but I wonder if he was a bit of an equipment goalie. He was great in the 2016 playoff year. That offseason, they made changes to the goalie equipment and under the same coach with the same system and mostly the same players, he was awful. They didn't have Sekera but Sekera was 1 guy. This season they made more changes to the goalie equipment and he still struggled. While Koskinen wasn't a world beater, he was significantly better than Talbot playing under the same system behind the same guys. Talbot moves to Philly and in limited action, his numbers got worse.
If he does sign in Calgary, I bet it is a short deal for not a lot of money. Behind the Flames defense, I bet his numbers will be better because they are a good defense but I am not convinced that it will because he's better.
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Kr55 Messages: 9840
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Will Talbot get a SO vs the Oilers this year?[ 30 vote(s) ] |
1. | Yes | 21 / 70% | 2. | No | 9 / 30% |
Andy Strickland @andystrickland
Cam Talbot will be signing a 1 yr deal with the Calgary Flames https://twitter.com/pierrevlebrun/status/1144611628090056704 …
Good little experiment here going from zero confidence from Oilers time to the Flamers :)
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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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smyth260 Messages: 960
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Just one?
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Kr55 Messages: 9840
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smyth260 wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 10:33 | Just one?
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At least 1 :)
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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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CrusaderPi Messages: 7677
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If the Oilers and flames played an early season hnic game in Edmonton I’d say yes for sure. As it stands I’m only 93% certain.
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Signing Smith for a year wouldn't be the worst idea.
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mightyreasoner Messages: 508
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NetBOG wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 14:16 | Signing Smith for a year wouldn't be the worst idea.
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I think Smith is probably Option E for me. There's a lot better guys out there, IMO. Smith's best days are likely behind him... just like a lot of pucks last year.
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Adam Messages: 6885
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mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 14:45 |
NetBOG wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 14:16 | Signing Smith for a year wouldn't be the worst idea.
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I think Smith is probably Option E for me. There's a lot better guys out there, IMO. Smith's best days are likely behind him... just like a lot of pucks last year.
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I wouldn't enter the season with a lot of optimism about a Smith/Koskinen tandem. Might rank as one of the worst in team history alongside Shtalenkov/Essensa (late career Essensa at that), Conklin/Markkanen/Morrisson, and Scrivens/Fasth (box checked!)...
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Adam wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 14:32 |
mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 14:45 |
NetBOG wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 14:16 | Signing Smith for a year wouldn't be the worst idea.
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I think Smith is probably Option E for me. There's a lot better guys out there, IMO. Smith's best days are likely behind him... just like a lot of pucks last year.
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I wouldn't enter the season with a lot of optimism about a Smith/Koskinen tandem. Might rank as one of the worst in team history alongside Shtalenkov/Essensa (late career Essensa at that), Conklin/Markkanen/Morrisson, and Scrivens/Fasth (box checked!)...
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I'm really hoping Dutch can get his former boy Mr. Miracle Mrazek.
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Adam wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 15:32 |
mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 14:45 |
NetBOG wrote on Fri, 28 June 2019 14:16 | Signing Smith for a year wouldn't be the worst idea.
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I think Smith is probably Option E for me. There's a lot better guys out there, IMO. Smith's best days are likely behind him... just like a lot of pucks last year.
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I wouldn't enter the season with a lot of optimism about a Smith/Koskinen tandem. Might rank as one of the worst in team history alongside Shtalenkov/Essensa (late career Essensa at that), Conklin/Markkanen/Morrisson, and Scrivens/Fasth (box checked!)...
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Smith struggled a bit in the regular season but he was almost 0.920 against an offensive powerhouse in the playoffs. And one of two guys on the team that gave a damn.
Koskinen's numbers last year weren't horrible. They were just incredibly average.
I think you are quite far off on your comparables.
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You're dead to me Cam
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WhoreableGuy Messages: 590
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I'll file Cam Talbot under the "players that would never come back to haunt us", maybe put him right beside Jeff Petry.
I wouldn't mind if the Oilers signed Mike Smith to a cheap deal, he was great when it mattered at the end of last season and was unreal in the playoffs. I'd take him over Talbot, Stolarz, Allen, Varlamov etc.
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mightyreasoner Messages: 508
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WhoreableGuy wrote on Sat, 29 June 2019 11:54 | I'll file Cam Talbot under the "players that would never come back to haunt us", maybe put him right beside Jeff Petry.
I wouldn't mind if the Oilers signed Mike Smith to a cheap deal, he was great when it mattered at the end of last season and was unreal in the playoffs. I'd take him over Talbot, Stolarz, Allen, Varlamov etc.
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Ironically, I'd suggest Petry is exactly the player the Oilers are missing right now on their blueline.
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WhoreableGuy wrote on Sat, 29 June 2019 10:54 | I'll file Cam Talbot under the "players that would never come back to haunt us", maybe put him right beside Jeff Petry.
I wouldn't mind if the Oilers signed Mike Smith to a cheap deal, he was great when it mattered at the end of last season and was unreal in the playoffs. I'd take him over Talbot, Stolarz, Allen, Varlamov etc.
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Dude, you'd be the only one who'd take Mike Smith over Varlamov...based purely on age and ability. I get that Smith is cheaper. One negative aspect of this salary cap era is that we used to look at who was a better hockey player as the only metric to gauge a hockey player.
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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 10:51 | Calling it now, Philly doesn’t extend him and he signs in Calgary.
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Good call
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