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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726870 is a reply to message #726865 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 21:56

stemhovlichski
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Registered: March 2006
Location: NSR

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nullterm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:53

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:53

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:52

Lucic... scores? faint

Halfway to his 2018 totals in the first 8 days of 2019! One more tonight and we all get free burgers!!!

Plan the parade!!! Check

What an incredible Cinderella story! This unknown, comes out of nowhere...

Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010

"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726871 is a reply to message #726870 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 21:58

g2k
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Location: The Hood

2 Cups

stemhovlichski wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:56

nullterm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:53

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:53

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:52

Lucic... scores? faint

Halfway to his 2018 totals in the first 8 days of 2019! One more tonight and we all get free burgers!!!

Plan the parade!!! Check

What an incredible Cinderella story! This unknown, comes out of nowhere...

I’m getting take out and doing it twice with the wife tonight.

#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726872 is a reply to message #726871 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 21:59

Oscargasm
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g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:58

stemhovlichski wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:56

nullterm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:53

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:53

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:52

Lucic... scores? faint

Halfway to his 2018 totals in the first 8 days of 2019! One more tonight and we all get free burgers!!!

Plan the parade!!! Check

What an incredible Cinderella story! This unknown, comes out of nowhere...

I’m getting take out and doing it twice with the wife tonight.

She still has to agree to that, but make sure she picks where take out is from... #goodluck

Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
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Category 3 - Considerably Musty
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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726873 is a reply to message #726824 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:01

WhoreableGuy
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Registered: August 2006
Location: Calgary

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I like how every penalty on the Sharks they are all pleading their case and even the coach getting into it. Bad calls on the Oilers just skate to the box and take it.

"Bah Gawd! Would somebody stop the damn draft!"

- Jim Ross calling the NHL Draft Lotto 2015 as the Oilers win

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726874 is a reply to message #726873 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:03

Oscargasm
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WhoreableGuy wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:01

I like how every penalty on the Sharks they are all pleading their case and even the coach getting into it. Bad calls on the Oilers just skate to the box and take it.

California teams tend to do this better than any other team in the league. They’re all entitled, it seems, and can do no wrong.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726876 is a reply to message #726872 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:11

g2k
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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:59

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:58

stemhovlichski wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:56

nullterm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:53

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:53

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:52

Lucic... scores? faint

Halfway to his 2018 totals in the first 8 days of 2019! One more tonight and we all get free burgers!!!

Plan the parade!!! Check

What an incredible Cinderella story! This unknown, comes out of nowhere...

I’m getting take out and doing it twice with the wife tonight.

She still has to agree to that, but make sure she picks where take out is from... #goodluck

#mcdonalds
#backofmyhand

#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726877 is a reply to message #726864 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:11

inverno76
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inverno76 wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:53

That’s gotta be like a field goal. 3 points for a Lucic goal. Tie game.

Damn. Still losing.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726878 is a reply to message #726876 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:21

Oscargasm
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g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:11

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:59

g2k wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:58

stemhovlichski wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:56

nullterm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:53

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:53

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:52

Lucic... scores? faint

Halfway to his 2018 totals in the first 8 days of 2019! One more tonight and we all get free burgers!!!

Plan the parade!!! Check

What an incredible Cinderella story! This unknown, comes out of nowhere...

I’m getting take out and doing it twice with the wife tonight.

She still has to agree to that, but make sure she picks where take out is from... #goodluck

#mcdonalds
#backofmyhand

Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
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Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726880 is a reply to message #726873 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:28

Kr55
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WhoreableGuy wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:01

I like how every penalty on the Sharks they are all pleading their case and even the coach getting into it. Bad calls on the Oilers just skate to the box and take it.

These guys look like they checked out sportsclubstats to see what record they would need to make the playoffs and are throwing the towel in.

For any hope, we should be 5-6 games over .500 right now and would need to gain another 5-6 games over from here. Basically impossible to do if you're a team that can't string any wins together.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726881 is a reply to message #726880 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:38

overdue
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Registered: October 2014

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Bunch of friggin sand baggers. That first period was right up there with the LA game. Feel sorry for the few guys that look like they care, like Nuge and Nurse. Give this whole
damn team to Seattlle and we'll start over and probably be better off.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726884 is a reply to message #726859 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:47

CrudeRemarks
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Location: Edmonton

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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:43

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:41

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:36

Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:27

Not to mention, if we have a big trade to make including an important valuable piece like the first round pick, I would prefer we have someone else making the trade. We know what we'd get with Chiarelli - someone who was a high draft pick four or five years ago who's disappointed since then. Possibly with one anomaly season where they put up points with an exceptionally high one-time PDO or personal shooting percentage. Likely someone with some size and a bit of "sandpaper" to their game.

Barkov? No... too consistent AND Florida’s Captain.

Ooooh... Galchenyuk! Sending the first to Arizona will be spun in a way by Bob saying that they move to the Central when Seattle comes in.

I was thinking Lawson Crouse...

Eh, he was an 11th or 12th(?) overall pick or soemthing like that. Too low to sell hope.

I’ve told you guys before, the guy Chia has his eye on is Dal colle from the NYI...

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726888 is a reply to message #726824 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:52

Adam
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Location: Edmonton, AB

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The only good thing about the Petrovic injury is we should find out next whether Hitchcock has Manning at #9 or #10 on the team's depth chart when he decides between him and Matt Benning.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726889 is a reply to message #726888 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 22:55

bigEfromGP
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Registered: July 2006
Location: GP, AB

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Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:52

The only good thing about the Petrovic injury is we should find out next whether Hitchcock has Manning at #9 or #10 on the team's depth chart when he decides between him and Matt Benning.

You're assuming Chia doesn't trade Pulujarvi for a waiver wire 7th D before the next game.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726893 is a reply to message #726868 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 23:02

stemhovlichski
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Registered: March 2006
Location: NSR

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WhoreableGuy wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 21:55

Ah gawd, how many burgers do I have to buy if Lucic gets 2?

In hindsight: you were worried?

golf

Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010

"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726898 is a reply to message #726835 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 23:10

Goose
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Location: Vancouver

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Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:04

IMO the Edmonton Oilers must be exhaustive in their efforts to improve scoring depth up front and should be prepared to move their 2019 #1 if neccessary to acquire a legit top 6 FWD...with term...

Bob Stauffer Twitter

So... basically, the Oilers have used their projection piece to tell the world that their 1st is in play.

The way this season is going that 1st could easily be a top 5 pick. If they trade it for anyone older than 23 it's a mistake. This team isnt one or two pieces away. They need to be looking at 3 years from now, at a minimum, as their window.

Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726899 is a reply to message #726898 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 23:16

Kr55
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Location: Edmonton

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Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:10

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:04

New 5 year plan?

Get all the 5'9/10 skill wingers we can get our hands on and trade away all these C's like Nuge and Drai to get them.

Still keep stocking up on overpaid 6/7 stay home D's though. Those never go out of style.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726900 is a reply to message #726898 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 23:19

Adam
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Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:10

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:04

That's a full reset if that's the case. With the top end that this team has, if it had competent management, they could be a contender quicker. Would need to work to clean up the cap management issues, but you can always sell problems or fake career-ending ailments...

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726901 is a reply to message #726900 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 23:23

Kr55
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Location: Edmonton

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Adam wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:19

Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:10

Magnum wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 20:04

I don't think any management group is turning this team around in less than 3 years now. There is nothing left to trade. There is no cap space to do anything with. Chia added Spooner and Manning to screw over whoever his replacement is next year (intentional?).

There are no reliable puck movers on this team except for Klef, that's it. Need 2 more fully hitting their stride in the NHL at least. Maybe some are here in development, but they are still 2-3 years away from being guys that can do a fully season at a high level. Got no wingers too obviously. Might not have any goalie this summer either.

Just too many moves needed, too much cap increases needed and too much asset value that needs to be built back up via the draft. Gonna take years. And the longer we wait, the more damage the OBC and Chia can do to make it take longer.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726905 is a reply to message #726901 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 23:42

Goose
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Location: Vancouver

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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:23

Ya, I think this pretty much covers it for me. I do think that a competent management team could do something with the forward group in less than 3 years, but the lack of cap flexibility makes that trickier.

But it's the defence and goaltending that worry me the most. Klefbom is great, but you can pretty much count on him to miss 15-20 games a season. Larsson is not nearly as effective and imo isn't a top pair defenceman when paired with pretty much anyone else. Nurse is looking like he'll top out as a decent top 4 but I dont think he's driving that pairing, and still makes a lot of questionable plays in his own end. Sekera is a giant question mark. Russell is playing 2-3 spots above his ability. And if the plan is that Jones and Bouchard are going to ride in and save the day in the next couple of years, then this team is doomed.

Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726906 is a reply to message #726905 ]	Tue, 08 January 2019 23:45

Adam
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Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:42

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:23

I think this deserves it's own thread. I'll try to write something.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ San Jose (Game #43) [message #726914 is a reply to message #726906 ]	Wed, 09 January 2019 05:10

Oscargasm
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Adam wrote on Wed, 09 January 2019 00:45

Goose wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 23:42

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 22:23

I think this deserves it's own thread. I'll try to write something.

This is why we (well... some of us) appreciate you so much.

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