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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722409 is a reply to message #722401 ]	Sat, 17 November 2018 11:49

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g2k wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 06:20

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.

I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.

I know a neighbour of his and it is my understanding he is a decent guy, but I sure wish he was more professional on the air. I think he could do it and give us a good analysis of story-line going into a game, but instead, he does a Carrot Top pun/prop bit that would make parents cringe at a junior high basketball game.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722410 is a reply to message #722409 ]	Sat, 17 November 2018 11:58

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I don't mind Gene's pre-game shtick, it's dorky and lame, but at least he's trying something and taking the time to put together a creative bit every night. I've watch enough hockey games with boring and generic intros to know I don't need that.

His softball intermission and post-game questions can pound sand. I know he's kind of paid by the team so he can't be too interesting, but I'm sure there's something he could do in terms of mid-game analysis in his two question window.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722412 is a reply to message #722409 ]	Sat, 17 November 2018 12:32

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Pseudoreality wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 11:49

g2k wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 06:20

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.

I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.

I know a neighbour of his and it is my understanding he is a decent guy, but I sure wish he was more professional on the air. I think he could do it and give us a good analysis of story-line going into a game, but instead, he does a Carrot Top pun/prop bit that would make parents cringe at a junior high basketball game.

I'm going to step in here and just defend Gene a little bit. I don't mind his puns, but I do understand how that could be annoying for some people.

I've had a couple run ins with him and they've all been good, but I've also heard positive things about him from others are well.

I do think he is an absolute professional. He is always prepared, he always brings something unique. Most of all, I can see the respect that players have for him. All of the Oilers who return to Edmonton are on a first name basis with him and are quick to say hello and thank-you. He knows how to handle sensitive situations with grace (remember the Maroon interview when he broke down playing in front of his son)... there's been several instances where he has been able to gracefully guide a difficult subject of moment.

The flipside of that is, he really shouldn't have too many of those. His job as in-game host is simply to be entertaining. I've never really watch any in-game host give a high-detailed, in-depth, deep question interview mid-game. Players don't want that and teams won't grant that. It is intermission filler. It's very different than say, Remenda, who actually does have air time to make astute observations (rather than deep insight like, "both teams would like to get that go-ahead goal").

TLDR; Principe may have an annoying schtick for some, but he's absolutely professional, navigates difficult situations well, and has the respect of players.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722413 is a reply to message #722395 ]	Sat, 17 November 2018 13:01

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Xombie wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 21:17

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 14:32

Xombie wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 15:05

I consider myself an optimist when it comes to the Oilers.

But this deal will be another fail for Chia unless Spooner significantly outscores Strome.

When trading centres, the righty is always more valuable. It has to do with faceoffs.

Lucic likes Spooner? Well didn't Connor billet with the Stromes or play with Dylan in the OHL?

I would also love it if Chia could trade with more teams than just the three New York clubs.

So what good does a right shooting center do if they don't score any points and isn't a good skater?

Well it's a face off thing. Like a south paw pitcher in baseball. Strome was a serviceable penalty killer. Faceoffs are important on the pk. Especially on a certain side of the ice. I seem to remember you got in an epic face off debate on here. Can't recall if you were pro or con reguarding the importance of faceoffs.
I can't argue with any of you guys, Strome was doing very very very little. If Spooner scores more (at all) this trade's a win. I remember in the old days a trade would sometimes shake up a team. I hope it lights a fire under the Oil!

This is not an opinion on the trade...

It was me that RDOF got angry at over faceoffs (among a couple others)

It has been proven that OVERALL faceoffs are not that important. Taken the big picture they are a tiny indicator of team or player success.
Situationally they are important, specifically on the PK in your own zone.

For role players that are expected to be a key part of the PK the center needs to be above 50% on FO.

For star players like McDavid it is nice if they are good on the dot as it means you can leave them on the ice and not put a lesser player there just for the face off.

As an example, with 2 mins left and a one goal lead. If the Oilers take a penalty I would love to have McDavid and RNH on the ice as the forwards. IF one or both of them are reliable on the FO you dont need to put in a worse player.

If you have a right handed, good face off, star player you have no worry in any situation.

To the trade itself, trading a RHC for a LHC is WAY down my list of analyzing the deal. Over the course of a game your 3rd center is taking a handful of faceoffs, maybe one of two of those are actually important to the outcome of the game. Losing Strome in that situation is not an issue for the Oilers.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722414 is a reply to message #722410 ]	Sat, 17 November 2018 13:04

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CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 11:58

I don't mind Gene's pre-game shtick, it's dorky and lame, but at least he's trying something and taking the time to put together a creative bit every night. I've watch enough hockey games with boring and generic intros to know I don't need that.

His softball intermission and post-game questions can pound sand. I know he's kind of paid by the team so he can't be too interesting, but I'm sure there's something he could do in terms of mid-game analysis in his two question window.

He's a dorky fan boy. I don't honestly get why anyone would be angry at him :) He just really likes his Oilers and is doing his dream job, and I think he is trying to lighten things up for Oilers fans who have seen so much stupidity and failure too. THe only think that annoys me about him is how he has to ALWAYS put his grubby mitts on every players milestone pucks. Stop that Gene!

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722415 is a reply to message #722412 ]	Sat, 17 November 2018 13:05

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mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 13:32

Pseudoreality wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 11:49

g2k wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 06:20

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.

I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.

I know a neighbour of his and it is my understanding he is a decent guy, but I sure wish he was more professional on the air. I think he could do it and give us a good analysis of story-line going into a game, but instead, he does a Carrot Top pun/prop bit that would make parents cringe at a junior high basketball game.

I'm going to step in here and just defend Gene a little bit. I don't mind his puns, but I do understand how that could be annoying for some people.

I've had a couple run ins with him and they've all been good, but I've also heard positive things about him from others are well.

I do think he is an absolute professional. He is always prepared, he always brings something unique. Most of all, I can see the respect that players have for him. All of the Oilers who return to Edmonton are on a first name basis with him and are quick to say hello and thank-you. He knows how to handle sensitive situations with grace (remember the Maroon interview when he broke down playing in front of his son)... there's been several instances where he has been able to gracefully guide a difficult subject of moment.

The flipside of that is, he really shouldn't have too many of those. His job as in-game host is simply to be entertaining. I've never really watch any in-game host give a high-detailed, in-depth, deep question interview mid-game. Players don't want that and teams won't grant that. It is intermission filler. It's very different than say, Remenda, who actually does have air time to make astute observations (rather than deep insight like, "both teams would like to get that go-ahead goal").

TLDR; Principe may have an annoying schtick for some, but he's absolutely professional, navigates difficult situations well, and has the respect of players.

I agree 100%. Do I love the puns and props? No, but I appreciate his effort to be a bit different. Every pregame and intermission guy in his role is, for the most part, full of "how did it feel" and other softball type questions. At least Gene brings a bit of fun to it and some personality.

In a hockey universe of annoying media (for a bunch of different reasons) I like Gene for the fresh air he can bring. He doesnt pretend to be a know-it-all, insider, or tough guy.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722418 is a reply to message #722409 ]	Sat, 17 November 2018 14:03

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Pseudoreality wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 11:49

g2k wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 06:20

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.

I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.

I know a neighbour of his and it is my understanding he is a decent guy, but I sure wish he was more professional on the air. I think he could do it and give us a good analysis of story-line going into a game, but instead, he does a Carrot Top pun/prop bit that would make parents cringe at a junior high basketball game.

I'm sure he's an awesome human being. SN just needs a change in the host.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722419 is a reply to message #722412 ]	Sat, 17 November 2018 14:07

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mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 12:32

Pseudoreality wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 11:49

g2k wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 06:20

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.

I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.

I know a neighbour of his and it is my understanding he is a decent guy, but I sure wish he was more professional on the air. I think he could do it and give us a good analysis of story-line going into a game, but instead, he does a Carrot Top pun/prop bit that would make parents cringe at a junior high basketball game.

I'm going to step in here and just defend Gene a little bit. I don't mind his puns, but I do understand how that could be annoying for some people.

I've had a couple run ins with him and they've all been good, but I've also heard positive things about him from others are well.

I do think he is an absolute professional. He is always prepared, he always brings something unique. Most of all, I can see the respect that players have for him. All of the Oilers who return to Edmonton are on a first name basis with him and are quick to say hello and thank-you. He knows how to handle sensitive situations with grace (remember the Maroon interview when he broke down playing in front of his son)... there's been several instances where he has been able to gracefully guide a difficult subject of moment.

The flipside of that is, he really shouldn't have too many of those. His job as in-game host is simply to be entertaining. I've never really watch any in-game host give a high-detailed, in-depth, deep question interview mid-game. Players don't want that and teams won't grant that. It is intermission filler. It's very different than say, Remenda, who actually does have air time to make astute observations (rather than deep insight like, "both teams would like to get that go-ahead goal").

TLDR; Principe may have an annoying schtick for some, but he's absolutely professional, navigates difficult situations well, and has the respect of players.

Some like him, some don't... he's a part of the presentation like Quinn and Remenda are. It's old, in my opinion.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #722423 is a reply to message #722418 ]	Sat, 17 November 2018 16:14

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K.McC#24 wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 14:03

Pseudoreality wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 11:49

g2k wrote on Sat, 17 November 2018 06:20

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 18:16

NetBOG wrote on Fri, 16 November 2018 17:40

Gene has to make an emergency trip to the dollar store for a big wooden spoon in prep for tomorrow nights game.

I'm triggered. If there was a way to throw Principe in on the deal, I would have been ecstatic. I know some like him and his whole deal, but I could do without the pregame schtick, the dumb puns, and the questions so soft they defy physics in their ability to remain intact from Gene's lips to whatever player's ears. If I never hear a question beginning with 'what's it like' or 'how good was it' or 'how did it feel' EVER again, color me happy. People in my house wonder why I'm in front of the game in the intermission and exclaiming "STFU Gene, you %*&^$$$@#!!!"

While I'm at it being triggered, if I never hear another comment from Kevin Quinn similar to "the Flames have the TENTH BEST power play at home when there's a full moon" and similar trivia, I'm smiling. Would end more profanity in my house.

He’s an embarrassment. I often wonder if he watches the clips of himself afterwards. Especially the side shot. It’s like he gels his hair for that wet curly look, then falls asleep on a pillow, then goes on TV.

He tries to be relevant through his puns, but the douchebaggery always outweighs the content. Every time.

I know a neighbour of his and it is my understanding he is a decent guy, but I sure wish he was more professional on the air. I think he could do it and give us a good analysis of story-line going into a game, but instead, he does a Carrot Top pun/prop bit that would make parents cringe at a junior high basketball game.

I'm sure he's an awesome human being. SN just needs a change in the host.

He interviewed me at the McDavid draft in Florida. I was wearing a McDavid jersey and he called me up to talk about our newest superstar. He had some schitck where I pretended to be #97. It was going alright until he asked me about the changes to our team and I started on a MacT/Lowe rant.

Afterwards he chuckled about how that wasn’t like to air, but he came across as a great guy and thanked me.

I should of thanked him more. When I got back to my seats I was kinda a big deal in Florida.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #752273 is a reply to message #722354 ]	Fri, 24 January 2020 09:51

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https://www.tsn.ca/new-york-rangers-f-ryan-strome-on-trade-d eadline-i-really-hope-i-stay-1.1432240

The trade still stings, especially with how well he fit in the locker room. Perfect 3rd line center with spot duty on top 6.

"The second one was definitely harder. When I got traded from the Islanders, it was in the summer, which is a little bit easier," Strome explained. "I was excited for a new start, but when I got traded from Edmonton, I was really disappointed. I felt like I was a big part of their locker room there and unfortunately just didn’t have a great start to the season.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #752275 is a reply to message #752273 ]	Fri, 24 January 2020 09:55

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Daftmonk wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 09:51

https://www.tsn.ca/new-york-rangers-f-ryan-strome-on-trade-d eadline-i-really-hope-i-stay-1.1432240

The trade still stings, especially with how well he fit in the locker room. Perfect 3rd line center with spot duty on top 6.

"The second one was definitely harder. When I got traded from the Islanders, it was in the summer, which is a little bit easier," Strome explained. "I was excited for a new start, but when I got traded from Edmonton, I was really disappointed. I felt like I was a big part of their locker room there and unfortunately just didn’t have a great start to the season.

I went back to look at how much time Strome played with McDavid. 58 out of 1182 5v5 minutes. likely all shift overlap during partial line changes.

If I recall correctly, he scored a goal in the only couple periods McLellan ever played him with McDavid, in his first pre-season with us. The media kept asking McLellan if Strome would end up replacing Eberle on McDavid's wing, and that was that, he never got to play there again.

The narrative turned to stuff like Strome having to earn McLellan's trust. And how he was a good babysitting for Pulju. Turns out Strome could hvae been extremely useful to try to get Drai on the 2nd line and off McDavid's wing. McLellan was asked about that a lot too in that 2017 training camp, especially after Drai just got 8.5M largely because of his performance at 2C in the playoffs. That too was a banished idea for a long time, Drai was on McDavid's wing to start the season.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #752277 is a reply to message #752275 ]	Fri, 24 January 2020 10:25

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 08:55

Daftmonk wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 09:51

https://www.tsn.ca/new-york-rangers-f-ryan-strome-on-trade-d eadline-i-really-hope-i-stay-1.1432240

The trade still stings, especially with how well he fit in the locker room. Perfect 3rd line center with spot duty on top 6.

"The second one was definitely harder. When I got traded from the Islanders, it was in the summer, which is a little bit easier," Strome explained. "I was excited for a new start, but when I got traded from Edmonton, I was really disappointed. I felt like I was a big part of their locker room there and unfortunately just didn’t have a great start to the season.

I went back to look at how much time Strome played with McDavid. 58 out of 1182 5v5 minutes. likely all shift overlap during partial line changes.

If I recall correctly, he scored a goal in the only couple periods McLellan ever played him with McDavid, in his first pre-season with us. The media kept asking McLellan if Strome would end up replacing Eberle on McDavid's wing, and that was that, he never got to play there again.

The narrative turned to stuff like Strome having to earn McLellan's trust. And how he was a good babysitting for Pulju. Turns out Strome could hvae been extremely useful to try to get Drai on the 2nd line and off McDavid's wing. McLellan was asked about that a lot too in that 2017 training camp, especially after Drai just got 8.5M largely because of his performance at 2C in the playoffs. That too was a banished idea for a long time, Drai was on McDavid's wing to start the season.

So would it be worth going after Strome as a rental for the rest of this year?

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #752279 is a reply to message #752277 ]	Fri, 24 January 2020 10:38

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jds308 wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 10:25

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 08:55

Daftmonk wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 09:51

https://www.tsn.ca/new-york-rangers-f-ryan-strome-on-trade-d eadline-i-really-hope-i-stay-1.1432240

The trade still stings, especially with how well he fit in the locker room. Perfect 3rd line center with spot duty on top 6.

"The second one was definitely harder. When I got traded from the Islanders, it was in the summer, which is a little bit easier," Strome explained. "I was excited for a new start, but when I got traded from Edmonton, I was really disappointed. I felt like I was a big part of their locker room there and unfortunately just didn’t have a great start to the season.

I went back to look at how much time Strome played with McDavid. 58 out of 1182 5v5 minutes. likely all shift overlap during partial line changes.

If I recall correctly, he scored a goal in the only couple periods McLellan ever played him with McDavid, in his first pre-season with us. The media kept asking McLellan if Strome would end up replacing Eberle on McDavid's wing, and that was that, he never got to play there again.

The narrative turned to stuff like Strome having to earn McLellan's trust. And how he was a good babysitting for Pulju. Turns out Strome could hvae been extremely useful to try to get Drai on the 2nd line and off McDavid's wing. McLellan was asked about that a lot too in that 2017 training camp, especially after Drai just got 8.5M largely because of his performance at 2C in the playoffs. That too was a banished idea for a long time, Drai was on McDavid's wing to start the season.

So would it be worth going after Strome as a rental for the rest of this year?

Is Strome not the same problem as Pageau? A 3rd line center who's blowing the doors off on this season? Everyone raves about Pageau who has 31 pts, Strome has 43. On pace to blow his career high 50 pts out of the water. The cost to get him will be a lot, then his contract expectations will probably be ridiculous based on this 1 season.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #752284 is a reply to message #752275 ]	Fri, 24 January 2020 11:53

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 09:55

Daftmonk wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 09:51

https://www.tsn.ca/new-york-rangers-f-ryan-strome-on-trade-d eadline-i-really-hope-i-stay-1.1432240

The trade still stings, especially with how well he fit in the locker room. Perfect 3rd line center with spot duty on top 6.

"The second one was definitely harder. When I got traded from the Islanders, it was in the summer, which is a little bit easier," Strome explained. "I was excited for a new start, but when I got traded from Edmonton, I was really disappointed. I felt like I was a big part of their locker room there and unfortunately just didn’t have a great start to the season.

I went back to look at how much time Strome played with McDavid. 58 out of 1182 5v5 minutes. likely all shift overlap during partial line changes.

If I recall correctly, he scored a goal in the only couple periods McLellan ever played him with McDavid, in his first pre-season with us. The media kept asking McLellan if Strome would end up replacing Eberle on McDavid's wing, and that was that, he never got to play there again.

The narrative turned to stuff like Strome having to earn McLellan's trust. And how he was a good babysitting for Pulju. Turns out Strome could hvae been extremely useful to try to get Drai on the 2nd line and off McDavid's wing. McLellan was asked about that a lot too in that 2017 training camp, especially after Drai just got 8.5M largely because of his performance at 2C in the playoffs. That too was a banished idea for a long time, Drai was on McDavid's wing to start the season.

It's interesting how little tarnished McLellan was by his time here. As bad as Chiarelli was and the issues that that created, McLellan never seemed to elevate anyone. His approach to player motivation was awful (mean dad/happy dad) and he was incredibly stubborn, even when things weren't working at all (Lucic w/ McDavid for months, the PP, the PK). I wonder if flopping in Los Angeles will tarnish him more, or if he'll just complain that he was handed an aged team in decline...

Notice that Kovalchuk is a point per game player 8 games in to his Montreal Canadiens career? Scored a couple important goals too...

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #752288 is a reply to message #752284 ]	Fri, 24 January 2020 12:25

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A third line of Cagguila-Strome-Puljujaarvi would look pretty good right about now

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #752291 is a reply to message #752288 ]	Fri, 24 January 2020 12:31

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Gator21 wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 12:25

A third line of Cagguila-Strome-Puljujaarvi would look pretty good right about now

Take out Puljujarvi and replace him with an NHLer and you'd have the makings of a good line.

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Re: Strome for Spooner Trade [message #752299 is a reply to message #752284 ]	Fri, 24 January 2020 14:18

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Adam wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 11:53

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 09:55

Daftmonk wrote on Fri, 24 January 2020 09:51

https://www.tsn.ca/new-york-rangers-f-ryan-strome-on-trade-d eadline-i-really-hope-i-stay-1.1432240

The trade still stings, especially with how well he fit in the locker room. Perfect 3rd line center with spot duty on top 6.

"The second one was definitely harder. When I got traded from the Islanders, it was in the summer, which is a little bit easier," Strome explained. "I was excited for a new start, but when I got traded from Edmonton, I was really disappointed. I felt like I was a big part of their locker room there and unfortunately just didn’t have a great start to the season.

I went back to look at how much time Strome played with McDavid. 58 out of 1182 5v5 minutes. likely all shift overlap during partial line changes.

If I recall correctly, he scored a goal in the only couple periods McLellan ever played him with McDavid, in his first pre-season with us. The media kept asking McLellan if Strome would end up replacing Eberle on McDavid's wing, and that was that, he never got to play there again.

The narrative turned to stuff like Strome having to earn McLellan's trust. And how he was a good babysitting for Pulju. Turns out Strome could hvae been extremely useful to try to get Drai on the 2nd line and off McDavid's wing. McLellan was asked about that a lot too in that 2017 training camp, especially after Drai just got 8.5M largely because of his performance at 2C in the playoffs. That too was a banished idea for a long time, Drai was on McDavid's wing to start the season.

It's interesting how little tarnished McLellan was by his time here. As bad as Chiarelli was and the issues that that created, McLellan never seemed to elevate anyone. His approach to player motivation was awful (mean dad/happy dad) and he was incredibly stubborn, even when things weren't working at all (Lucic w/ McDavid for months, the PP, the PK). I wonder if flopping in Los Angeles will tarnish him more, or if he'll just complain that he was handed an aged team in decline...

Notice that Kovalchuk is a point per game player 8 games in to his Montreal Canadiens career? Scored a couple important goals too...

26th place PP, forces the best shot he has out of the org.

30th place PK.

At least McLellan is consistent, I'll give him that.

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