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 Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517056]
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This from Ryan Rishaug on TEAM 1260. Saying it's a done deal.

Stay tuned.


Confirmed now on TSN:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=312032

[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2010 15:07]


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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517059 is a reply to message #517056 ]
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benv wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:04

This from Ryan Rishaug on TEAM 1260. Saying it's a done deal.

Stay tuned.


TSN reporting now:

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=312032

As of today, that pick is the 49th overall...



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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517060 is a reply to message #517058 ]
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Well, its a start.


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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517062 is a reply to message #517058 ]
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So long and thanks for the fish.

I think this means Nashville will part with Hamhuis now.



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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517063 is a reply to message #517056 ]
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have no idea what in the ****....

and to be honest, considering the age difference (although marginal as it is) between Tammy Gilbert and Grebz, I would've preferred to see the former get traded. Grebs would've been cheaper, has better upside and clearly the coaches see something in this guy of significance, one of Russia's top minute men playin in a shutdown role (as hilarious and probably flawed as it may be).

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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517064 is a reply to message #517056 ]
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Wow. All they had todo was tell him to switch dressing rooms.

Mixed emotions to see him go. Showed some wicked play previously, but then reverted back to his usual turnover self.

Good luck Grebs as a Pred! Just not tomorrow. icon_wink

For just a 2nd rounder? Part of me thinks the Preds won this trade hand down. The other part, probably makes sense for both.

[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2010 15:10]


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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517065 is a reply to message #517056 ]
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His entire career peaked and troughed in a two year window.
Oh well, one less replaceable RFA(or was he gonna be UFA this summer) to worry about.
Let the mess cleaning commence!



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 Extra 3 million to play with now [message #517066 is a reply to message #517056 ]
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At least I am guessing he would have had to be given the same amount of money next year to sign him.


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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517068 is a reply to message #517064 ]
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Not bad getting a second for Grebs, thought he may have been used to spruce up a bigger deal though.

Flashes of brilliance followed by stretches of WTF?

The ball has started rolling, let's hope it keeps going...



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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517069 is a reply to message #517065 ]
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RedRooster wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:09

His entire career peaked and troughed in a two year window.
Oh well, one less replaceable RFA(or was he gonna be UFA this summer) to worry about.
Let the mess cleaning commence!


According to NHL numbers he is an RFA this year.



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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517070 is a reply to message #517056 ]
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 Re: Extra 3 million to play with now [message #517071 is a reply to message #517066 ]
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Quote:

The dismantling of the disappointing Edmonton Oilers looks to be underway.


Wow. So it begins! Thats a fairly high pick for Grebs. Im happy with it.

Quote:

Flashes of brilliance followed by stretches of WTF?


I think that's a perfect description for the whole team.

[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2010 15:16]


When you get all set to watch the game, and within 10 minutes the Oilers are losing:

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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517072 is a reply to message #517070 ]
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Rishaug and others reporting that the 2nd will be used to bring in a "big" (I use this term lightly) name player.


Big Gulps eh?...........Well, cya later.

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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517073 is a reply to message #517072 ]
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Cooney wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 16:15

Rishaug and others reporting that the 2nd will be used to bring in a "big" (I use this term lightly) name player.


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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517077 is a reply to message #517056 ]
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I like it: Getting a 2nd round pick for a largely ineffective, relatively expensive, impending RFA on a team going nowhere? Good asset management. icon_thumbsup


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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517078 is a reply to message #517073 ]
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Remember we traded a 2nd rounder last year to get a month of Ales Kotalik and traded a 2nd rounder to move up a few picks to get Riley Nash.


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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517080 is a reply to message #517056 ]
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Wow. Had plenty of upside, but probably had to go as he did not fit in with the coaching transition. Would've loved to keep the guy had Huddy still been around as an assistant coach.

Good news is Lubo stays unless he demands a trade this summer.



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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517081 is a reply to message #517063 ]
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philly boy wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:08

...considering the age difference (although marginal as it is) between Tammy Gilbert and Grebz, I would've preferred to see the former get traded.

Don't think anyone is trading a 2nd rounder and no salary for Gilbert. I'm lukewarm on this deal because it sets the bar so low. Just last year we got POS and a 2nd rounder for Erik Cole.

This may well be a case though where management specifically did not want any roster players in return.



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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517082 is a reply to message #517078 ]
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Beerfish Revisited wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 18:20

Remember we traded a 2nd rounder last year to get a month of Ales Kotalik and traded a 2nd rounder to move up a few picks to get Riley Nash.


Let's hope we can use this 2nd and a couple other picks we may pick up to convince the Bruins to give us the Leafs pick :)



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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517083 is a reply to message #517078 ]
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Not too terribly torn up about this..


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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517085 is a reply to message #517080 ]
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In 2007 we traded M-A Bergeron and a 3rd for Grebeshkov, two years later we turn it into a 2nd, not too bad.

I like this deal because:

a) we get a second round pick, we need as many picks as possible for our rebuild.
b) we shave off $3.150 million off the cap.

wave Best of luck to Denis.



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 Re: Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick [message #517088 is a reply to message #517056 ]
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2nd round pick for Grebs... maybe that gives hope to Staios going for a 1st!? haha


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Seems like a BIT of a low return... but if he's an RFA this summer, he would NOT be worth the same money or contract.

Clean house Tambo!!!



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I like the idea of getting picks back in return. BUT, we have been horrendous with our scouting and draft day picks. Unless, we overhaul our scouting staff isn't this just a moot move?

5 picks in first 50.



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I really like this and it saves us $2.5Million for next year.


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nickxero wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:39

Seems like a BIT of a low return... but if he's an RFA this summer, he would NOT be worth the same money or contract.

Clean house Tambo!!!
He's an RFA and would have had to have been qualified and that's going to make his contract just south of 3.5 million a year.
The contract doesn't go backwards at this stage, unless he was not qualified and was made a UFA.....at which point a team (and not the Oilers) could sign him for less.

Bye bye Denis and thanks for the second round draft pick.



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OilMJMOil wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:11

Just got the alert from the tradecenter app on the iPhone


thanks for that, just downloaded it, gonna make Wed easier when I'm at work



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jdmckay wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:55

OilMJMOil wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:11

Just got the alert from the tradecenter app on the iPhone


thanks for that, just downloaded it, gonna make Wed easier when I'm at work


You need an app? I get SMS texts from TSN and have had it for years or my stupid run of the mill flip phone.



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Cooney wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 19:14

I like the idea of getting picks back in return. BUT, we have been horrendous with our scouting and draft day picks. Unless, we overhaul our scouting staff isn't this just a moot move?

5 picks in first 50.


Newsflash - Barry Fraser doesn't work here anymore. The last few picks seem to be very nice (Eberle, Gagner, MPS) and it's the current crop of scouts that are going to be continually responsible for this rebuild.

I can't say I'm torn up about the deal. A 2nd isn't bad, but given that the Preds are known for drafting good d-men, you'd think they'd be after one of their young prospects. This may be one of those where you have to evaluate it in conjunction with what comes down the next two days. At most, one of Souray or Visnovsky will be dealt now. But ya gotta get a good live body back for one of those guys if you deal 'em



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Having an iPhone... I do indeed need an app. But thanks for letting us know that while you're at work your trusty run of the mill flip phone will be allowing you to get up to the minute deals. At least you won't be in the dark.


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you don't need an app, your iphone does sms just like other crappy phones. but if you have an app you can do more.


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What would be the point of an iPhone without apps... especially free apps like the TSN Tradecenter app.


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halesway wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:54

nickxero wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:39

Seems like a BIT of a low return... but if he's an RFA this summer, he would NOT be worth the same money or contract.

Clean house Tambo!!!
He's an RFA and would have had to have been qualified and that's going to make his contract just south of 3.5 million a year.
The contract doesn't go backwards at this stage, unless he was not qualified and was made a UFA.....at which point a team (and not the Oilers) could sign him for less.

Bye bye Denis and thanks for the second round draft pick.


To add to this thought, his agent is Mark Gandler, who's infamous for taking his clients to Russia if he doesn't get what he wants for them in the NHL. Grebeshkov has already gone that route once and you have to think it's a possibility for a lot of Russian players right now. The Oilers have protected themselves against losing him by grabbing something of value, and they've opened up a spot for one of their younger guys.

I'm not ecstatic about this deal by any means. I like what he brings when he's playing well...but I'm not broken up about it either.



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OilMJMOil wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 19:21

What would be the point of an iPhone without apps... especially free apps like the TSN Tradecenter app.


Just downloaded it - MUCH better than just text messages. Has all the trades so you can scroll through them, and it's all oh so pretty :)



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It's close to, not quite at the same level, but close to the same amount of pretty as that Crosby horse goal last night eh Mike?


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The best part is that with Grebeshkov on their team, that pick will get more and more valuable as the season goes on.


Horcoff and MacIntyre rule.

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Cooney wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:44

I like the idea of getting picks back in return. BUT, we have been horrendous with our scouting and draft day picks. Unless, we overhaul our scouting staff isn't this just a moot move?

5 picks in first 50.



I know we need more time to evaluate our last few drafts, but we seem to have a few prospects with some high end potential and I have a hard time believing that we can screw up a top 2 pick this year.

I think we got fair value for Grebeshkov and Nashville is not a lock for a playoff spot. That pick could end up to be a nice early second rounder, especially when Grebeshkov starts turning over the puck.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 16:23

halesway wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:54

nickxero wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 15:39

Seems like a BIT of a low return... but if he's an RFA this summer, he would NOT be worth the same money or contract.

Clean house Tambo!!!
He's an RFA and would have had to have been qualified and that's going to make his contract just south of 3.5 million a year.
The contract doesn't go backwards at this stage, unless he was not qualified and was made a UFA.....at which point a team (and not the Oilers) could sign him for less.

Bye bye Denis and thanks for the second round draft pick.


To add to this thought, his agent is Mark Gandler, who's infamous for taking his clients to Russia if he doesn't get what he wants for them in the NHL. Grebeshkov has already gone that route once and you have to think it's a possibility for a lot of Russian players right now. The Oilers have protected themselves against losing him by grabbing something of value, and they've opened up a spot for one of their younger guys.

I'm not ecstatic about this deal by any means. I like what he brings when he's playing well...but I'm not broken up about it either.

And just to add a bit more.....since coming over Grebs went from 950k to 1.5M to 3.1M....so what's the next step...I'll tell you want. Not with the Oil. Nashville is a team who's budget is to just make it over the minimum cap. Grebs fits perfect.



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