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also.. best reffed game so far this series..


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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 00:40

also.. best reffed game so far this series..


2 each. 1 game management one (Hyman slash that invited a laughable dive) after we went 2/2, which was expected. Then Kempe forced their hand to call a 3rd one on the Kings.

I'll take it if that's how they will call them. Obviously would like more PP's and McDavid muggings to be called, but I get the fear the refs have. As long as they don't call a bucket of bull on us and throw it all out of balance then.

Who could have predicted Dumb and Dumber end up staying out of the game the most as refs? Maybe there was a call down from the league that the refing in the series was getting too shameful and being talked about too much.

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 23:48

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 00:40

also.. best reffed game so far this series..


2 each. 1 game management one (Hyman slash that invited a laughable dive) after we went 2/2, which was expected. Then Kempe forced their hand to call a 3rd one on the Kings.

I'll take it if that's how they will call them. Obviously would like more PP's and McDavid muggings to be called, but I get the fear the refs have. As long as they don't call a bucket of bull on us and throw it all out of balance then.


If the rest of the playoffs is reffed like tonight, I will have zero complaints. As long as the Oil and Kings get the same treatment then that’s all we can ask for.



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nullterm wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 23:53

... As long as the Oil and Kings get the same treatment then that’s all we can ask for.


..that's why they need an AI Ref-Bot !:)



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Still over the moon about the win, but I just can't help but point out how the SNet commentators made three errors in a minute to start the 2nd period.

First Scott Oake said that this is the fifth time the Oilers have erased a 3 goal deficit in the playoffs (this may or may not be true) and "the last time was in 1992 when they came back to beat Calgary in game 7". So just off the top of my head, I knew there were two errors here--the series he's referring to was in 1991 and it certainly was not the last time the Oilers erased a 3 goal deficit. How can anyone forget about game 3 against Dallas in 1997 when the Oilers erased a 3-0 deficit in the last 4 minutes to win in OT.

Then just after the puck was dropped, Singh said this was the first time the Oilers would not have the lead going into the third. Well, you just have to remember back to Friday night when the game was tied going into the third. In fact every game except the first was tied going into the third.

I don't blame Oake or Singh, since I know they are given this info by a research staff, but someone(s) really dropped the ball on their research.



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nullterm wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 00:53



If the rest of the playoffs is reffed like tonight, I will have zero complaints. As long as the Oil and Kings get the same treatment then that’s all we can ask for.


The Fiala penalty that the Oilers scored the 3-3 goal during is being widely criticized outside of Edmonton. I don't remember it, but most just saw a bodycheck.



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nullterm wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 00:53



If the rest of the playoffs is reffed like tonight, I will have zero complaints. As long as the Oil and Kings get the same treatment then that’s all we can ask for.


The Fiala penalty that the Oilers scored the 3-3 goal during is being widely criticized outside of Edmonton. I don't remember it, but most just saw a bodycheck.


On one of the angles you can see Fialas stick in between LD's legs.. could be interpreted as a can opener.. might be a weaker variety but nothing like some of the previous ghost calls Oilers were receiving.



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Easily the worst game we've played this series. Nice to see that we (for the most part) kept our discipline up, even with the Kings players flopping all over the place. I thought the refs finally called a decent game.

Great job by our ex-Leafs. No idea how Campbell managed to make some of those saves, but I'll take it.

I have a feeling that we're going to spank them in game 5 tomorrow night.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:23

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 03:32

nullterm wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 00:53



If the rest of the playoffs is reffed like tonight, I will have zero complaints. As long as the Oil and Kings get the same treatment then that’s all we can ask for.


The Fiala penalty that the Oilers scored the 3-3 goal during is being widely criticized outside of Edmonton. I don't remember it, but most just saw a bodycheck.


On one of the angles you can see Fialas stick in between LD's legs.. could be interpreted as a can opener.. might be a weaker variety but nothing like some of the previous ghost calls Oilers were receiving.


I agree. I wouldn't have been upset if they let it go, and was actually surprised they called it. But on review, his stick does take his leg out from under him, so not a terrible call by any stretch, especially compared to what we have had go against us.



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Good news/bad news

Good news: Bouchard is looking like a stud. Tied for 4th in playoff scoring, ahead of even McDavid.

Bad news: unsigned RFA to be Bouchard is looking like a stud. Tied for 4th in playoff scoring, ahead of even McDavid. $$$

I mean the choice is easy - I want to see him do well and continue to progress, but I honestly have no idea what his next deal is going to look like. Sure his numbers get a massive boost playing with 97 and 29, but he's creating a lot himself as well.

And how about Kulak's impression of Orr/Karlsson last night? Spin-o-ramas, toe drags, end to end rushes - don't think I've ever seen him like that.



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Mike wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 10:55



And how about Kulak's impression of Orr/Karlsson last night? Spin-o-ramas, toe drags, end to end rushes - don't think I've ever seen him like that.


Yeah I noticed that too. He was feeling it out there.



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Adam wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:58

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:56

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That was exciting. Despite only allowing 1 goal, Campbell was giving me fits. So scrambly.

And what’s up with the reporters in the rooms right after the game, win or lose? I thought they’d done away with that. Don’t recall having seen that in some time before these playoffs. It’s so awkward and useless.




Gotta ride the key saves king as far as he can go now.

Tough situation. I think we could all see Skinner was pretty tentative out there. Definitely looks overwhelmed by the pressure to me. Everyone wishes for a matt Murray or Bininington to just hit the ground running and not stop until they are lifting the cup. Not in the cards rn for Skinner. Maybe sitting on out let's him reset and he comes back stronger when we need him.


Again - I disagree here. How do you build his confidence most? By throwing him back in next game. It's his net to lose and I don't think one game does that. Especially since the goals tonight weren't really his fault. Brutal save percentage, but I find it hard to blame him for the 3-0 start.

I do think he's been a little shaky in the series, but I just don't think we can go far with Campbell. It's just always an adventure with him, and it's too likely to burn us.

It doesn't happen very often but I agree with Adam. The team has made Skinner the starter so you give the next start to the starter. He's your guy, you pulled him (which I think was the right call), you put him back in with the hopes he will be motivated and want to give his team a very good start for some redemption.

I put fault him on 2 of the first 3. First goal, terrible rebound. Could someone have done something differently? Probably but you can't drop a rebound where he did like that. You couldn't have picked a worst spot to leave that rebound and his rebounds all series haven't been good. Second goal, yes Desharnais was too aggressive and got walked but make a save. Arvidson didn't do anything, he just skated right at him and shot an unscreened on the ice shot that went right through the 5 hole. To me, he didn't look set or ready for it.



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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 04:32

nullterm wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 00:53



If the rest of the playoffs is reffed like tonight, I will have zero complaints. As long as the Oil and Kings get the same treatment then that’s all we can ask for.


The Fiala penalty that the Oilers scored the 3-3 goal during is being widely criticized outside of Edmonton. I don't remember it, but most just saw a bodycheck.

I only saw the one replay but wasnt that the open ice collision with LD? Fiala's knee was involved, iirc.



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My thoughts.
Awful start, as bad as it gets. Skinner wasn't sharp. I thought the team came out flat, nothing went right but I loved the fact they didn't quit.

The good and this applies to after the first.
Leon was outstanding.
McD was good and is coming on.
Ryan, Foegele, Bjugstad continue to be very good. Foegele and Bjusgstad continue to be good and deserve a goal and unlucky not to get one. I would be giving more ice to Foegele and Bjugstad.
Bouchard was excellent.
I LOVE playoff Kulak. He was excellent.
Ekholm was good.
Ceci was pretty good.
Broberg did well in his limited time.
Kostin was fine and I don't know why he didn't play a ton.
Campbell was EXCELLENT. He saved the Oilers season.
Kane was good. He's COMING!

Hyman up until OT wasn't great. I think he got a well deserved benching after his brutal penalty in the 3rd. Massive, massive goal. Welcome to the series Zach.

Bad.
Skinner. Bad is a harsh term for him because he's been just OK most games but this game, in a game your team needs, he wasn't good. He's been outplayed every game. I think his rebound control has been bad all series. Every puck is right in the slot vs Korp is directing them to the corners. I didn't like the first goal because of the rebound. Second goal, he didn't look ready for the shot. Team needs more.
Nurse I thought was not good. Some major brain cramps. He's been good all series, except last night.
Desharnais looked like a rookie last night. Rough game.
Yamomoto has cemented in me he needs to be gone at the end of this season. I don't know what he does to deserve so much ice. Offensively nothing much happens with him. I'd be elevating Foegele and Bjugstad minutes wise over him.
McLeod I thought against was mostly invisible. He got 1 decent shot on goal. Suspect defensively. He's just too much of a perimeter player. GO TO THE NET!
Nuge has been terrible. They need him to show up. He looks like 2016 Nuge.



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K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 08:17

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 04:32

nullterm wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 00:53



If the rest of the playoffs is reffed like tonight, I will have zero complaints. As long as the Oil and Kings get the same treatment then that’s all we can ask for.


The Fiala penalty that the Oilers scored the 3-3 goal during is being widely criticized outside of Edmonton. I don't remember it, but most just saw a bodycheck.

I only saw the one replay but wasnt that the open ice collision with LD? Fiala's knee was involved, iirc.


It was a can opener.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FufGZVuXwAkECF6?format=png&name=360x360

He couldn't pull his left leg forward because of the stick, and the blade of the stick also stops his right foot from being able to go back to regain balance.

Sad that it is still a shock that the refs would call it, but I guess one of them was paying attention at that moment and caught it.



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Seeing the stat that Drai has been on the ice for 14/14 of our goals in the series.

Geez...




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I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.

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Adam wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:54

g2k wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?


I'd go back to Skinner. Great for Campbell to get the win, but man - I don't know if I can take many more games with that rebound control.

Our worst game of the series, but somehow we pull out the win. Great to see. Now just put them to bed.


This is the right thought. You don't bail on your goaltender when he had a bad game. It's good Woody saw the situation and changed goalies, but glad he did.

As for rebound control one could argue Skinner was serving up home runes with his rebound control.

Go back to Skinner, watch him closely and adjust.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:02

I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.


I don't hear it. He's been good for long stretches and very quick to highlight Kings players than Oilers players, but all in all I don't hear the bias... not like Jim Hughson bias which was unbearable.



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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:02

I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.


I don't hear it. He's been good for long stretches and very quick to highlight Kings players than Oilers players, but all in all I don't hear the bias... not like Jim Hughson bias which was unbearable.

Yeah, he's not a biased PBP guy he's just an awful PBP quy. I'm surprised an aspiring broadcaster hasn't started live streaming a call to play over a muted TV.



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benv wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 02:02

How can anyone forget about game 3 against Dallas in 1997 when the Oilers erased a 3-0 deficit in the last 4 minutes to win in OT.


The Dallas game is why I stuck around to finish the game. Almost broke up with my wife (then girlfriend) because she wanted to go for a bike ride before the game was over. She now never gives up on a game. Learned her a lesson that day.



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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:02

I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.


I don't hear it. He's been good for long stretches and very quick to highlight Kings players than Oilers players, but all in all I don't hear the bias... not like Jim Hughson bias which was unbearable.


I don't think there is bias either. I just don't think he is very good at sounding excited in general. Sounds forced all the time and people can pick up on that pretty easily. Maybe his forced excitement goes oddly louder now and then for a good thing the Kings did, but don't think it's because he likes the Kings, just the forced excitement has random intensity levels lol. Just not a playoff quality commentator yet. Not most people expect at least. SN not really swimming in commentator talent these days.



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Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:02

I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.


I don't hear it. He's been good for long stretches and very quick to highlight Kings players than Oilers players, but all in all I don't hear the bias... not like Jim Hughson bias which was unbearable.

Thanks for letting me know. I am probably just hearing more than is there because I just really don't enjoy his call of the game. I just don't find he brings a ton of energy and draws people in, he's just a guy talking in the background to me. I just heard the Hyman goal replayed and he wasn't too bad on it but in general, he's just blah to me.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:27

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:02

I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.


I don't hear it. He's been good for long stretches and very quick to highlight Kings players than Oilers players, but all in all I don't hear the bias... not like Jim Hughson bias which was unbearable.


I don't think there is bias either. I just don't think he is very good at sounding excited in general. Sounds forced all the time and people can pick up on that pretty easily. Maybe his forced excitement goes oddly louder now and then for a good thing the Kings did, but don't think it's because he likes the Kings, just the forced excitement has random intensity levels lol. Just not a playoff quality commentator yet. Not most people expect at least. SN not really swimming in commentator talent these days.

It's probably just his tone that is the issue for me. When I think of the guys that I like, they have a bit more of a higher voice. Rod Phillips was higher pitched, Michaels is, Cuthbert has a bit of a higher voice. I didn't mind Jim Hugheson other than the fact he hated the Oilers and it was obvious. Bob Cole was higher voiced.



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I turned off my phone before the game. I pretty much avoided all social media yesterday aside from the pre-game interviews. I was curious to see what this forum was doing, but if I went online it would ultimately lead me into Twitter which would have killed my soul.

What a frickin' game. Campbell was scary, but he got it done. I think the puck found him more than he found the puck at times and the one goal he gave up was not great. We need to go back to Skinner, and I hope he finds a way to stop leaking rebounds. The Kings game plan definitely is revolving around shooting low and crashing the net looking for a loose puck, but Skinner has earned that crease and has not done enough to lose it imo.

I agree with the 97/29 experiment being necessary, but it cannot be the way we move forward. Save that for special times in a game, but we are way more balanced when they are split apart.

Deharnais can be a PK specialist in the 11/7 model, but Broberg needs to play the EV strength minutes going forward. Vinny is just too lumbering in this series.

Love seeing Zack and and Evander sniping, and this team has a never give up attitude that makes you feel like they can do something special this year.


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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:29

Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:02

I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.


I don't hear it. He's been good for long stretches and very quick to highlight Kings players than Oilers players, but all in all I don't hear the bias... not like Jim Hughson bias which was unbearable.

Thanks for letting me know. I am probably just hearing more than is there because I just really don't enjoy his call of the game. I just don't find he brings a ton of energy and draws people in, he's just a guy talking in the background to me. I just heard the Hyman goal replayed and he wasn't too bad on it but in general, he's just blah to me.


I do not really hear the bias in Singh's calls, but I also do not like his calls in general. Lifeless. I yearn for Jack, but I get his homerism would grow old on a National level ... then again, does anyone out east stay up to watch us besides our awesome Eastern fans?



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:22

Yeah, he's not a biased PBP guy he's just an awful PBP quy. I'm surprised an aspiring broadcaster hasn't started live streaming a call to play over a muted TV.


Lol, yeah he's not the best.. he's known for his bonino bonino bonino during the Pens run when he was broadcasting in Punjabi.

as for an aspiring broadcaster sounds like a job for Pi. :)



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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:42

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:29

Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:02

I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.


I don't hear it. He's been good for long stretches and very quick to highlight Kings players than Oilers players, but all in all I don't hear the bias... not like Jim Hughson bias which was unbearable.

Thanks for letting me know. I am probably just hearing more than is there because I just really don't enjoy his call of the game. I just don't find he brings a ton of energy and draws people in, he's just a guy talking in the background to me. I just heard the Hyman goal replayed and he wasn't too bad on it but in general, he's just blah to me.


I do not really hear the bias in Singh's calls, but I also do not like his calls in general. Lifeless. I yearn for Jack, but I get his homerism would grow old on a National level ... then again, does anyone out east stay up to watch us besides our awesome Eastern fans?


On the flip side, why would homerism be seen as a bad thing to any of the eastern fans? I am an Oilers fan so when the Oilers aren't playing or if the (knock on wood), my interest isn't as high and I am definitely not "pro Canadian team" if my team isn't in it (knock on wood) but as a Canadian broadcasting company, I would want as pro Canadian team guy as I can get. It would be going to Leafs fans and be like "we know Cuthrbert calls all the Leafs games but he's too homer for the Leafs in the playoffs so here is the Canucks guy for you."



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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:42


I do not really hear the bias in Singh's calls, but I also do not like his calls in general. Lifeless. I yearn for Jack, but I get his homerism would grow old on a National level ... then again, does anyone out east stay up to watch us besides our awesome Eastern fans?


I don't understand why, in our infinite streaming universe, we can't have the choice. Jack's already calling the game, why can't we listen to him on SportsNet Oilers or on the SportsNet ap. Why force an unpopular or bad product on your customer?



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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:42

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:29

Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:02

I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.


I don't hear it. He's been good for long stretches and very quick to highlight Kings players than Oilers players, but all in all I don't hear the bias... not like Jim Hughson bias which was unbearable.

Thanks for letting me know. I am probably just hearing more than is there because I just really don't enjoy his call of the game. I just don't find he brings a ton of energy and draws people in, he's just a guy talking in the background to me. I just heard the Hyman goal replayed and he wasn't too bad on it but in general, he's just blah to me.


I do not really hear the bias in Singh's calls, but I also do not like his calls in general. Lifeless. I yearn for Jack, but I get his homerism would grow old on a National level ... then again, does anyone out east stay up to watch us besides our awesome Eastern fans?



I actually prefer Singh to Jack, and don't think it's close. I think Singh's improved a lot in the last couple years, and Jack is near unlistenable. It feels like you're being yelled at for two hours. He also has a really weird tendency to just go off on tangents and ramble about random stuff. It's worse on the radio with Bob, but even on TV with Louie, he'll suddenly start talking about an obscure movie, or the WWE or some other thing that has nothing to do with the game he's calling.

He's no Rod Phillips, and I think Cam Moon is better actually.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 08:31

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If the rest of the playoffs is reffed like tonight, I will have zero complaints. As long as the Oil and Kings get the same treatment then that’s all we can ask for.


The Fiala penalty that the Oilers scored the 3-3 goal during is being widely criticized outside of Edmonton. I don't remember it, but most just saw a bodycheck.

I only saw the one replay but wasnt that the open ice collision with LD? Fiala's knee was involved, iirc.


It was a can opener.

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He couldn't pull his left leg forward because of the stick, and the blade of the stick also stops his right foot from being able to go back to regain balance.

Sad that it is still a shock that the refs would call it, but I guess one of them was paying attention at that moment and caught it.


They also missed a blatant call about 2 mins before this on the Kings, so may have felt they owed us one and called this. Not that that's a good habit for referees, but it's the NHL soooooo...



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Adam wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 10:05

inverno76 wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:42

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:29

Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 09:02

I really struggle listening to Singh doing the play by play. He just doesn't do it for me. Plus, maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like he brings more energy to a Kings goal than Oilers. You are a Canadian broadcaster, on a Canadian network broadcasting to I assume pretty much nothing but Canadians. You are doing a game where it's a Canadian team vs an American team. In my opinion, when you are a Canadian broadcaster calling a Canadian team against an American, you should be calling the game as if you are the Canadian teams home play by by guy and bringing a little more energy for the Canadian team. If its 2 Canadian teams, then be neutral but it's not. I would expect that for the Jets and Leafs as well. When I hear Cuthbert call the Leafs, I don't hear him making a bigger deal when Tampa scores. Singh was born in Brooks Alberta and to me, he sounds like a Flames fan turned broadcaster reluctantly calling an Oilers game.


I don't hear it. He's been good for long stretches and very quick to highlight Kings players than Oilers players, but all in all I don't hear the bias... not like Jim Hughson bias which was unbearable.

Thanks for letting me know. I am probably just hearing more than is there because I just really don't enjoy his call of the game. I just don't find he brings a ton of energy and draws people in, he's just a guy talking in the background to me. I just heard the Hyman goal replayed and he wasn't too bad on it but in general, he's just blah to me.


I do not really hear the bias in Singh's calls, but I also do not like his calls in general. Lifeless. I yearn for Jack, but I get his homerism would grow old on a National level ... then again, does anyone out east stay up to watch us besides our awesome Eastern fans?



I actually prefer Singh to Jack, and don't think it's close. I think Singh's improved a lot in the last couple years, and Jack is near unlistenable. It feels like you're being yelled at for two hours. He also has a really weird tendency to just go off on tangents and ramble about random stuff. It's worse on the radio with Bob, but even on TV with Louie, he'll suddenly start talking about an obscure movie, or the WWE or some other thing that has nothing to do with the game he's calling.

He's no Rod Phillips, and I think Cam Moon is better actually.

I'd be curious to know if you would be in the minority taking Singh over Jack not just in this site but in general.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 10:49

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I'd take Jack over Singh. I want the play by play guy to sound genuinely interested in what is happening. We all know what is going on already. Singh being so robotic and having unnatural sounding fake excitement is a distraction more than anything.

What we really need is another Leafs fail and cutherbert swings over to the oilers in the second round.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 10:54

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 10:49

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I'd take Jack over Singh. I want the play by play guy to sound genuinely interested in what is happening. We all know what is going on already. Singh being so robotic and having unnatural sounding fake excitement is a distraction more than anything.

What we really need is another Leafs fail and cutherbert swings over to the oilers in the second round.

I agree with you. I am not at the game, I don't get to feel the energy of the crowd so I want the play by play to bring a ton of energy. I am in my mid 40's, I have watched probably 1000's of Oilers games. I am not a new fan to the game or team where I need the play by play guy to methodically and calmly describe the game to me like I don't know what I am watching. I am looking to be entertained.

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Guess I'm the lone dissenter ... I'd go with the hot hand. Skinner has been average all series; Campbell was excellent yesterday. I'd give him another shot. But it is a close call in my mind - I would have no problem with them starting Skinner instead. Yes, his season-long work "earned the crease" ... but "what have you done lately" points toward Campbell.



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AndersonRules wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 11:32


Guess I'm the lone dissenter ... I'd go with the hot hand. Skinner has been average all series; Campbell was excellent yesterday. I'd give him another shot. But it is a close call in my mind - I would have no problem with them starting Skinner instead. Yes, his season-long work "earned the crease" ... but "what have you done lately" points toward Campbell.

I'm kind of the same - I'd go Campbell - but I don't think playing Skinner is a terrible decision (and I think that's what they will do).

I think barring a total goaltending collapse and that they play 29 and 97 on their own lines they win on tues.



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