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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747840 is a reply to message #747816 ]
Tue, 26 November 2019 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay Rags, you keep on keepin' on.
I'll watch you lead your existence on OILFANS with a crooked little grin, knowing now, that you are likened to a million other minions on-line who use negativity as their soapbox platform.
It is , after all, your opinion; and we are all entitled to one.

And you're right !! This Site would not be as busy as it is with out the criticisms of its members. ........ I guess I let it get to me too much sometimes and the urge to say something overwhelms me, and I turn briefly to being a hypocrite .

We're not perfect, after all..... FYI... I only drink on the golf course.

BTW. ...... Being on "a Bandwagon" connotates that one will eventually jump off. There is no bandwagon for me. I'm an Oiler fan, and will not deviate from that.


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747842 is a reply to message #747840 ]
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goffer48 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 14:30

Okay Rags, you keep on keepin' on.
I'll watch you lead your existence on OILFANS with a crooked little grin, knowing now, that you are likened to a million other minions on-line who use negativity as their soapbox platform.
It is , after all, your opinion; and we are all entitled to one.

And you're right !! This Site would not be as busy as it is with out the criticisms of its members. ........ I guess I let it get to me too much sometimes and the urge to say something overwhelms me, and I turn briefly to being a hypocrite .

We're not perfect, after all..... FYI... I only drink on the golf course.

BTW. ...... Being on "a Bandwagon" connotates that one will eventually jump off. There is no bandwagon for me. I'm an Oiler fan, and will not deviate from that.


Don't you EVER refer to my fatalistic sarcasm as negativity!

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747849 is a reply to message #747840 ]
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goffer48 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 14:30

Okay Rags, you keep on keepin' on.
I'll watch you lead your existence on OILFANS with a crooked little grin, knowing now, that you are likened to a million other minions on-line who use negativity as their soapbox platform.
It is , after all, your opinion; and we are all entitled to one.

And you're right !! This Site would not be as busy as it is with out the criticisms of its members. ........ I guess I let it get to me too much sometimes and the urge to say something overwhelms me, and I turn briefly to being a hypocrite .

We're not perfect, after all..... FYI... I only drink on the golf course.

BTW. ...... Being on "a Bandwagon" connotates that one will eventually jump off. There is no bandwagon for me. I'm an Oiler fan, and will not deviate from that.


Criticism only comes when there is something to be critical of. Given that the Oilers have been a sinkhole of failure for most of the past 15 years, there has not been a lot to NOT be critical about. All critics are doing are pointing out what is wrong. You're basically not making much sense, but I guess that's the booze talking.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747857 is a reply to message #747849 ]
Tue, 26 November 2019 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HMMMMMmmmmm....

Criticism only comes when there is something to be critical of.
.... purely a point of perception;
Given that the Oilers have been a sinkhole of failure for most of the past 15 years, there has not been a lot to NOT be critical about.
...... I can definitely see your point there, but in a round about way, you've made my point...... We're no longer in that 'sinkhole' ; but people seem to be finding it very difficult to trust the positive vibes surrounding the team now.... but negativity is like an addiction that is hard to withdraw from... which initiated my post into this thread.

All critics are doing are pointing out what is wrong.
...... Another point of perception, based on opinion, and not necessarily correct.

You're basically not making much sense, but I guess that's the booze talking.
No merit, No Response

I'm not going to let you draw me any further down towards your level .

I've had enough.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747858 is a reply to message #747842 ]
Tue, 26 November 2019 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 14:32

goffer48 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 14:30

Okay Rags, you keep on keepin' on.
I'll watch you lead your existence on OILFANS with a crooked little grin, knowing now, that you are likened to a million other minions on-line who use negativity as their soapbox platform.
It is , after all, your opinion; and we are all entitled to one.

And you're right !! This Site would not be as busy as it is with out the criticisms of its members. ........ I guess I let it get to me too much sometimes and the urge to say something overwhelms me, and I turn briefly to being a hypocrite .

We're not perfect, after all..... FYI... I only drink on the golf course.

BTW. ...... Being on "a Bandwagon" connotates that one will eventually jump off. There is no bandwagon for me. I'm an Oiler fan, and will not deviate from that.


Don't you EVER refer to my fatalistic sarcasm as negativity!


An interesting take on negativity.

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-Don't mess with old folks, they didn't get old by being stupid.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747862 is a reply to message #747857 ]
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goffer48 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 15:51

HMMMMMmmmmm....

Criticism only comes when there is something to be critical of.
.... purely a point of perception;
Given that the Oilers have been a sinkhole of failure for most of the past 15 years, there has not been a lot to NOT be critical about.
...... I can definitely see your point there, but in a round about way, you've made my point...... We're no longer in that 'sinkhole' ; but people seem to be finding it very difficult to trust the positive vibes surrounding the team now.... but negativity is like an addiction that is hard to withdraw from... which initiated my post into this thread.

All critics are doing are pointing out what is wrong.
...... Another point of perception, based on opinion, and not necessarily correct.

You're basically not making much sense, but I guess that's the booze talking.
No merit, No Response

I'm not going to let you draw me any further down towards your level .

I've had enough.

The Oilers have missed the playoffs 12 out of the past 13 seasons since their playoff run in '06. In that time, they've finished at or near the bottom in most of those seasons which is how they netted 5 #1 overall picks including the one that got them Connor. Are these all just "points of perception"? Is it called something else when people including myself point out these facts?

In a sports league, the general objective is to prove that one or one's team is the best by defeating all others in order to win something call a championship, the one for the NHL being called the Stanley Cup. When a team fails to even qualify for the competition where one can win that trophy, does it not count as a failure to succeed? Do you have a different definition of "success" than the one generally used in professional sports?

"Down to my level"? So basically, you want to hide from facts by calling them "opinions" and only show up to post when the team is doing well. This is borne out when I look at your posting history, as you only seem to show up mostly during times when the team is doing well such as in 2016-17, but not so much in the years before or between that season and this one. You are hilarious to me.

Also, I actually don't mind seeing guys like you around these forums. You know why? Because it allows me at a quick glance to see that the team is indeed doing well- when these forums are mostly empty because guys like you go back to lurking, it means that the team is in the toilet yet again. It's like a Success-O-Meter, and not just for the Oilers but any pro team.

"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747864 is a reply to message #747862 ]
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 16:22

goffer48 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 15:51

HMMMMMmmmmm....

Criticism only comes when there is something to be critical of.
.... purely a point of perception;
Given that the Oilers have been a sinkhole of failure for most of the past 15 years, there has not been a lot to NOT be critical about.
...... I can definitely see your point there, but in a round about way, you've made my point...... We're no longer in that 'sinkhole' ; but people seem to be finding it very difficult to trust the positive vibes surrounding the team now.... but negativity is like an addiction that is hard to withdraw from... which initiated my post into this thread.

All critics are doing are pointing out what is wrong.
...... Another point of perception, based on opinion, and not necessarily correct.

You're basically not making much sense, but I guess that's the booze talking.
No merit, No Response

I'm not going to let you draw me any further down towards your level .

I've had enough.

The Oilers have missed the playoffs 12 out of the past 13 seasons since their playoff run in '06. In that time, they've finished at or near the bottom in most of those seasons which is how they netted 5 #1 overall picks including the one that got them Connor. Are these all just "points of perception"? Is it called something else when people including myself point out these facts?

In a sports league, the general objective is to prove that one or one's team is the best by defeating all others in order to win something call a championship, the one for the NHL being called the Stanley Cup. When a team fails to even qualify for the competition where one can win that trophy, does it not count as a failure to succeed? Do you have a different definition of "success" than the one generally used in professional sports?

"Down to my level"? So basically, you want to hide from facts by calling them "opinions" and only show up to post when the team is doing well. This is borne out when I look at your posting history, as you only seem to show up mostly during times when the team is doing well such as in 2016-17, but not so much in the years before or between that season and this one. You are hilarious to me.

Also, I actually don't mind seeing guys like you around these forums. You know why? Because it allows me at a quick glance to see that the team is indeed doing well- when these forums are mostly empty because guys like you go back to lurking, it means that the team is in the toilet yet again. It's like a Success-O-Meter, and not just for the Oilers but any pro team.


I don't see any need for us to get in to rock-throwing at each other here over who's the better fan. It's fine if you want to be critical, and it's fine if you don't. Everyone has a different perspective, but this forum is best when there's lots of contributors, and lots of viewpoints.

Now, can we get back to discussing what's really important like David Staples inane quest this week to rehabilitate Peter Chiarelli's reputation through twitter fights?

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747865 is a reply to message #747862 ]
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 16:22

goffer48 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 15:51

HMMMMMmmmmm....

Criticism only comes when there is something to be critical of.
.... purely a point of perception;
Given that the Oilers have been a sinkhole of failure for most of the past 15 years, there has not been a lot to NOT be critical about.
...... I can definitely see your point there, but in a round about way, you've made my point...... We're no longer in that 'sinkhole' ; but people seem to be finding it very difficult to trust the positive vibes surrounding the team now.... but negativity is like an addiction that is hard to withdraw from... which initiated my post into this thread.

All critics are doing are pointing out what is wrong.
...... Another point of perception, based on opinion, and not necessarily correct.

You're basically not making much sense, but I guess that's the booze talking.
No merit, No Response

I'm not going to let you draw me any further down towards your level .

I've had enough.

The Oilers have missed the playoffs 12 out of the past 13 seasons since their playoff run in '06. In that time, they've finished at or near the bottom in most of those seasons which is how they netted 5 #1 overall picks including the one that got them Connor. Are these all just "points of perception"? Is it called something else when people including myself point out these facts?

In a sports league, the general objective is to prove that one or one's team is the best by defeating all others in order to win something call a championship, the one for the NHL being called the Stanley Cup. When a team fails to even qualify for the competition where one can win that trophy, does it not count as a failure to succeed? Do you have a different definition of "success" than the one generally used in professional sports?

"Down to my level"? So basically, you want to hide from facts by calling them "opinions" and only show up to post when the team is doing well. This is borne out when I look at your posting history, as you only seem to show up mostly during times when the team is doing well such as in 2016-17, but not so much in the years before or between that season and this one. You are hilarious to me.

Also, I actually don't mind seeing guys like you around these forums. You know why? Because it allows me at a quick glance to see that the team is indeed doing well- when these forums are mostly empty because guys like you go back to lurking, it means that the team is in the toilet yet again. It's like a Success-O-Meter, and not just for the Oilers but any pro team.


OKAY .. YOU WIN

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747889 is a reply to message #747862 ]
Wed, 27 November 2019 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 16:22

goffer48 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 15:51

HMMMMMmmmmm....

Criticism only comes when there is something to be critical of.
.... purely a point of perception;
Given that the Oilers have been a sinkhole of failure for most of the past 15 years, there has not been a lot to NOT be critical about.
...... I can definitely see your point there, but in a round about way, you've made my point...... We're no longer in that 'sinkhole' ; but people seem to be finding it very difficult to trust the positive vibes surrounding the team now.... but negativity is like an addiction that is hard to withdraw from... which initiated my post into this thread.

All critics are doing are pointing out what is wrong.
...... Another point of perception, based on opinion, and not necessarily correct.

You're basically not making much sense, but I guess that's the booze talking.
No merit, No Response

I'm not going to let you draw me any further down towards your level .

I've had enough.

The Oilers have missed the playoffs 12 out of the past 13 seasons since their playoff run in '06. In that time, they've finished at or near the bottom in most of those seasons which is how they netted 5 #1 overall picks including the one that got them Connor. Are these all just "points of perception"? Is it called something else when people including myself point out these facts?

In a sports league, the general objective is to prove that one or one's team is the best by defeating all others in order to win something call a championship, the one for the NHL being called the Stanley Cup. When a team fails to even qualify for the competition where one can win that trophy, does it not count as a failure to succeed? Do you have a different definition of "success" than the one generally used in professional sports?

"Down to my level"? So basically, you want to hide from facts by calling them "opinions" and only show up to post when the team is doing well. This is borne out when I look at your posting history, as you only seem to show up mostly during times when the team is doing well such as in 2016-17, but not so much in the years before or between that season and this one. You are hilarious to me.

Also, I actually don't mind seeing guys like you around these forums. You know why? Because it allows me at a quick glance to see that the team is indeed doing well- when these forums are mostly empty because guys like you go back to lurking, it means that the team is in the toilet yet again. It's like a Success-O-Meter, and not just for the Oilers but any pro team.




That 5th first overall .... man that guy was a bum! What was his name again?


What gets me is the level of hyperbole and some of the ridiculous rumours that come out from the always-negatives.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747896 is a reply to message #747889 ]
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welcometotheOC wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 06:38


That 5th first overall .... man that guy was a bum! What was his name again?

What gets me is the level of hyperbole and some of the ridiculous rumours that come out from the always-negatives.



I'm curious what hyperbole and ridiculous rumours you're talking about?


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747951 is a reply to message #747889 ]
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welcometotheOC wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 06:38

That 5th first overall .... man that guy was a bum! What was his name again?

I dunno, but he couldn't be all that good if he hasn't won a Cup yet.

welcometotheOC wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 06:38

What gets me is the level of hyperbole and some of the ridiculous rumours that come out from the always-negatives.

From what I've seen, the more "negative" commenters here tend to poop on ridiculous rumours and avoid hyperbole, unless you count simply pointing out that the Oilers haven't been a very good team for most of the past 15 years as hyperbole.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747952 is a reply to message #747896 ]
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Adam wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 08:45

welcometotheOC wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 06:38


That 5th first overall .... man that guy was a bum! What was his name again?

What gets me is the level of hyperbole and some of the ridiculous rumours that come out from the always-negatives.



I'm curious what hyperbole and ridiculous rumours you're talking about?




Who was that 5th FOA again? ....just a minor example

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #747974 is a reply to message #747862 ]
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 16:22

goffer48 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 15:51

HMMMMMmmmmm....

Criticism only comes when there is something to be critical of.
.... purely a point of perception;
Given that the Oilers have been a sinkhole of failure for most of the past 15 years, there has not been a lot to NOT be critical about.
...... I can definitely see your point there, but in a round about way, you've made my point...... We're no longer in that 'sinkhole' ; but people seem to be finding it very difficult to trust the positive vibes surrounding the team now.... but negativity is like an addiction that is hard to withdraw from... which initiated my post into this thread.

All critics are doing are pointing out what is wrong.
...... Another point of perception, based on opinion, and not necessarily correct.

You're basically not making much sense, but I guess that's the booze talking.
No merit, No Response

I'm not going to let you draw me any further down towards your level .

I've had enough.

The Oilers have missed the playoffs 12 out of the past 13 seasons since their playoff run in '06. In that time, they've finished at or near the bottom in most of those seasons which is how they netted 5 #1 overall picks including the one that got them Connor. Are these all just "points of perception"? Is it called something else when people including myself point out these facts?

In a sports league, the general objective is to prove that one or one's team is the best by defeating all others in order to win something call a championship, the one for the NHL being called the Stanley Cup. When a team fails to even qualify for the competition where one can win that trophy, does it not count as a failure to succeed? Do you have a different definition of "success" than the one generally used in professional sports?

"Down to my level"? So basically, you want to hide from facts by calling them "opinions" and only show up to post when the team is doing well. This is borne out when I look at your posting history, as you only seem to show up mostly during times when the team is doing well such as in 2016-17, but not so much in the years before or between that season and this one. You are hilarious to me.

Also, I actually don't mind seeing guys like you around these forums. You know why? Because it allows me at a quick glance to see that the team is indeed doing well- when these forums are mostly empty because guys like you go back to lurking, it means that the team is in the toilet yet again. It's like a Success-O-Meter, and not just for the Oilers but any pro team.


If my son throws a party and trashes the house 12 out or 13 times that I go on vacation, I'm going to be skeptical for a long damn time, especially if he did it the last two or three times I went away.

Maybe four or five years of good competitive hockey and a limited number of outright bad trades and signings, and I'll be ready to reduce my criticalness.

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2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
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2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!

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Magnum wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 15:57

Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 16:22

goffer48 wrote on Tue, 26 November 2019 15:51

HMMMMMmmmmm....

Criticism only comes when there is something to be critical of.
.... purely a point of perception;
Given that the Oilers have been a sinkhole of failure for most of the past 15 years, there has not been a lot to NOT be critical about.
...... I can definitely see your point there, but in a round about way, you've made my point...... We're no longer in that 'sinkhole' ; but people seem to be finding it very difficult to trust the positive vibes surrounding the team now.... but negativity is like an addiction that is hard to withdraw from... which initiated my post into this thread.

All critics are doing are pointing out what is wrong.
...... Another point of perception, based on opinion, and not necessarily correct.

You're basically not making much sense, but I guess that's the booze talking.
No merit, No Response

I'm not going to let you draw me any further down towards your level .

I've had enough.

The Oilers have missed the playoffs 12 out of the past 13 seasons since their playoff run in '06. In that time, they've finished at or near the bottom in most of those seasons which is how they netted 5 #1 overall picks including the one that got them Connor. Are these all just "points of perception"? Is it called something else when people including myself point out these facts?

In a sports league, the general objective is to prove that one or one's team is the best by defeating all others in order to win something call a championship, the one for the NHL being called the Stanley Cup. When a team fails to even qualify for the competition where one can win that trophy, does it not count as a failure to succeed? Do you have a different definition of "success" than the one generally used in professional sports?

"Down to my level"? So basically, you want to hide from facts by calling them "opinions" and only show up to post when the team is doing well. This is borne out when I look at your posting history, as you only seem to show up mostly during times when the team is doing well such as in 2016-17, but not so much in the years before or between that season and this one. You are hilarious to me.

Also, I actually don't mind seeing guys like you around these forums. You know why? Because it allows me at a quick glance to see that the team is indeed doing well- when these forums are mostly empty because guys like you go back to lurking, it means that the team is in the toilet yet again. It's like a Success-O-Meter, and not just for the Oilers but any pro team.


If my son throws a party and trashes the house 12 out or 13 times that I go on vacation, I'm going to be skeptical for a long damn time, especially if he did it the last two or three times I went away.

Maybe four or five years of good competitive hockey and a limited number of outright bad trades and signings, and I'll be ready to reduce my criticalness.


Fair ball. On side, and we have a good goal.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

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welcometotheOC wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 12:45

Adam wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 08:45

welcometotheOC wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 06:38


That 5th first overall .... man that guy was a bum! What was his name again?

What gets me is the level of hyperbole and some of the ridiculous rumours that come out from the always-negatives.



I'm curious what hyperbole and ridiculous rumours you're talking about?




Who was that 5th FOA again? ....just a minor example


I don't think there was 5 first overalls - I'm sure if someone said that that they made a mistake and meant four. To be fair, that sounds optimistic! Maybe someone is thinking that a 5th first overall will finally push us over the edge?

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #748110 is a reply to message #747951 ]
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 12:45

welcometotheOC wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 06:38

That 5th first overall .... man that guy was a bum! What was his name again?

I dunno, but he couldn't be all that good if he hasn't won a Cup yet.

welcometotheOC wrote on Wed, 27 November 2019 06:38

What gets me is the level of hyperbole and some of the ridiculous rumours that come out from the always-negatives.

From what I've seen, the more "negative" commenters here tend to poop on ridiculous rumours and avoid hyperbole, unless you count simply pointing out that the Oilers haven't been a very good team for most of the past 15 years as hyperbole.


Perhaps I didn't use the correct terminology. It just gets tiresome reading so much negativity about things like minor roster moves or even *anything* that is tried to make the team better. I agree the team has been shiite for most of the last decade and a half, but I prefer to wait and see and try to be a little optimistic in most cases (except Lucic, had a baaaaad feeling as soon as he signed). Now I don't advocate becoming a fanbase like the Dys' , but a little more positivity would be nice ....

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #748162 is a reply to message #748110 ]
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welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 10:31

Perhaps I didn't use the correct terminology. It just gets tiresome reading so much negativity about things like minor roster moves or even *anything* that is tried to make the team better. I agree the team has been shiite for most of the last decade and a half, but I prefer to wait and see and try to be a little optimistic in most cases (except Lucic, had a baaaaad feeling as soon as he signed). Now I don't advocate becoming a fanbase like the Dys' , but a little more positivity would be nice ....

Chicken and egg- this place would be more positive if there was more to be positive about from this franchise, for example if it were better run. We will be negative about rester moves when they are terrible, for example, Chia-pet trading Cags for Manning of all people. Destroying scoring depth for a D-man who is at best a fringe-NHL'er and at worst is useless is the kind of thing that puts frowns on people's faces here.

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #748168 is a reply to message #748162 ]
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 20:29

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 10:31

Perhaps I didn't use the correct terminology. It just gets tiresome reading so much negativity about things like minor roster moves or even *anything* that is tried to make the team better. I agree the team has been shiite for most of the last decade and a half, but I prefer to wait and see and try to be a little optimistic in most cases (except Lucic, had a baaaaad feeling as soon as he signed). Now I don't advocate becoming a fanbase like the Dys' , but a little more positivity would be nice ....

Chicken and egg- this place would be more positive if there was more to be positive about from this franchise, for example if it were better run. We will be negative about rester moves when they are terrible, for example, Chia-pet trading Cags for Manning of all people. Destroying scoring depth for a D-man who is at best a fringe-NHL'er and at worst is useless is the kind of thing that puts frowns on people's faces here.


Those were obviously horrible. I’m referring more to the Granlunds, Jurcos, Nygaards and Persson’s of the world. Jones has been no better than Persson, who I think was quite good - if unspectacular- given he is also a rookie who happens to have about the same amount of pro experience as Jones - he just started later. Jurco shows flashes but hasn’t worked out, true. Granlund started slow but has improved quite a bit in the last couple of weeks. The kind of thing that gets me is how universally these moves were dumped on and disparaged at the beginning of the season even though we hadn’t seen the moves (as a whole) in action. I think Holland has done a very good job given the mess Chia left. Koskinen has been unfairly (to an extent) criticized, when much of his late season dive was obviously due to overwork and the effect of the horri-bad Talbot had on the whole team last year.

Anyway, I too will never forgive Lowe for what he has done to this franchise (through his own management and his obvious role in the decisions on his various successors), but I still am an Oilers fan (46 yrs and counting) and I see far more room for positivity than I usually see from certain posters here. Everyone has a right an opinion, I am simply stating that it gets tiresome at times to wade through the shear volume of complaints and it has at times affected my enjoyment of the site. Constructive criticism is good and many excellent posters (negative or not) still make this site entertaining though.

( I realize I am all over the place with this post but I find editing on an ipad tedious so I will just leave it as is) icon_biggrin Fight

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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Arizona (Game #26) [message #748234 is a reply to message #748168 ]
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welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 23:21

Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 20:29

welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 28 November 2019 10:31

Perhaps I didn't use the correct terminology. It just gets tiresome reading so much negativity about things like minor roster moves or even *anything* that is tried to make the team better. I agree the team has been shiite for most of the last decade and a half, but I prefer to wait and see and try to be a little optimistic in most cases (except Lucic, had a baaaaad feeling as soon as he signed). Now I don't advocate becoming a fanbase like the Dys' , but a little more positivity would be nice ....

Chicken and egg- this place would be more positive if there was more to be positive about from this franchise, for example if it were better run. We will be negative about rester moves when they are terrible, for example, Chia-pet trading Cags for Manning of all people. Destroying scoring depth for a D-man who is at best a fringe-NHL'er and at worst is useless is the kind of thing that puts frowns on people's faces here.


Those were obviously horrible. I’m referring more to the Granlunds, Jurcos, Nygaards and Persson’s of the world. Jones has been no better than Persson, who I think was quite good - if unspectacular- given he is also a rookie who happens to have about the same amount of pro experience as Jones - he just started later. Jurco shows flashes but hasn’t worked out, true. Granlund started slow but has improved quite a bit in the last couple of weeks. The kind of thing that gets me is how universally these moves were dumped on and disparaged at the beginning of the season even though we hadn’t seen the moves (as a whole) in action. I think Holland has done a very good job given the mess Chia left. Koskinen has been unfairly (to an extent) criticized, when much of his late season dive was obviously due to overwork and the effect of the horri-bad Talbot had on the whole team last year.

Anyway, I too will never forgive Lowe for what he has done to this franchise (through his own management and his obvious role in the decisions on his various successors), but I still am an Oilers fan (46 yrs and counting) and I see far more room for positivity than I usually see from certain posters here. Everyone has a right an opinion, I am simply stating that it gets tiresome at times to wade through the shear volume of complaints and it has at times affected my enjoyment of the site. Constructive criticism is good and many excellent posters (negative or not) still make this site entertaining though.

( I realize I am all over the place with this post but I find editing on an ipad tedious so I will just leave it as is) icon_biggrin Fight


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