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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744946 is a reply to message #744943 ]	Thu, 17 October 2019 18:20

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Seattle kickin' themselves for letting Holland snag Tippett from them. Ronny Franchise aint chopped liver, for a former player GM maybe the best outside Stevie Y. But Tipp can coach.

I hear it said allot that the NHL is easier for certain players with high hockey IQ to play in due to the tighter systems, higher structure, guys being in the correct spot ect.

Bear must be one of those guys. He's gotta be protected in the upcoming expansion draft now!

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744950 is a reply to message #744946 ]	Thu, 17 October 2019 18:34

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Xombie wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 21:20

Seattle kickin' themselves for letting Holland snag Tippett from them. Ronny Franchise aint chopped liver, for a former player GM maybe the best outside Stevie Y. But Tipp can coach.

I hear it said allot that the NHL is easier for certain players with high hockey IQ to play in due to the tighter systems, higher structure, guys being in the correct spot ect.

Bear must be one of those guys. He's gotta be protected in the upcoming expansion draft now!

Good article about Bear on ON today. Talks about how he completely revamped his diet and attitude towards training and the results have been impressive.

https://oilersnation.com/2019/10/17/major-lifestyle-change-f or-edmonton-oilers-defenceman-ethan-bear/

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744953 is a reply to message #744950 ]	Thu, 17 October 2019 19:22

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 18:34

Good article about Bear on ON today. Talks about how he completely revamped his diet and attitude towards training and the results have been impressive.

https://oilersnation.com/2019/10/17/major-lifestyle-change-f or-edmonton-oilers-defenceman-ethan-bear/

I've always had this thinking of players now needing to lean out and drop pounds in the new NHL. I even remember asking Gregor about this on ON in the comments section of an article about nutrition many years back and him answering about a balance of gaining weight and keeping your same quickness which I think is very tough to do. I felt that the Oilers stars like Hall and Eberle were less effective at their game as the seasons went on because they were putting on too much mass.

You watch Hall and Eberle's first NHL game and how quick and shifty they were, Eberle looks like a twig but there's no way he would pull off a goal like that a couple seasons later when he was a lot bulkier.

I see how players like Gaudreau didn't bulk up at all, why was there any reason to do so? The game is about speed and if you're easier to knock off your feet that's probably a better chance at a penalty. His teammate Sam Bennett's game from junior is totally ruined, he couldn't do a single chin up at the Draft Combine and since then he's put on a lot of muscle. Now he's not quick, he's a shade of his former self. Look at his highlights from Kingston he was a much quicker player.

This season I think there are so many players that just dropped weight instead of muscling up, working on their speed. Matthews looks a lot leaner, obviously Neal dropped a good 20 lbs. I think in the next few seasons we see more NHL'ers come into camp lighter rather than adding muscle.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744954 is a reply to message #744940 ]	Thu, 17 October 2019 19:23

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 15:27

mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 15:13

The PK has been good, but there needs to be more than that 5x5 from the bottom six than what we've seen. I'm also not convinced you need to carry as many PKers in the lineup as the Oilers are right now.

The problem is that the Oil don't have enough skill players to avoid having all of those PKers in the line-up, which was the concern going into this season (re: secondary scoring). The bottom six have just not been able to generate any offense to back up the top 2 lines, though they have at least at times been able to hem opposing teams up in their own zone..

This was always why I felt the Sam Gagner demotion was a mistake. He's not flawless. He will generate more than any other guy in that bottom six. Pick some PKers and surround them with some guys who can produce a little offense.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744955 is a reply to message #744953 ]	Thu, 17 October 2019 20:46

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WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 19:22

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 18:34

Good article about Bear on ON today. Talks about how he completely revamped his diet and attitude towards training and the results have been impressive.

https://oilersnation.com/2019/10/17/major-lifestyle-change-f or-edmonton-oilers-defenceman-ethan-bear/

I've always had this thinking of players now needing to lean out and drop pounds in the new NHL. I even remember asking Gregor about this on ON in the comments section of an article about nutrition many years back and him answering about a balance of gaining weight and keeping your same quickness which I think is very tough to do. I felt that the Oilers stars like Hall and Eberle were less effective at their game as the seasons went on because they were putting on too much mass.

You watch Hall and Eberle's first NHL game and how quick and shifty they were, Eberle looks like a twig but there's no way he would pull off a goal like that a couple seasons later when he was a lot bulkier.

I see how players like Gaudreau didn't bulk up at all, why was there any reason to do so? The game is about speed and if you're easier to knock off your feet that's probably a better chance at a penalty. His teammate Sam Bennett's game from junior is totally ruined, he couldn't do a single chin up at the Draft Combine and since then he's put on a lot of muscle. Now he's not quick, he's a shade of his former self. Look at his highlights from Kingston he was a much quicker player.

This season I think there are so many players that just dropped weight instead of muscling up, working on their speed. Matthews looks a lot leaner, obviously Neal dropped a good 20 lbs. I think in the next few seasons we see more NHL'ers come into camp lighter rather than adding muscle.

Interesting theory. I’d guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Training properly to increase strength without sacrificing mobility. I know Luongo and Tom Brady both extended their careers because they would stretch for hours prior to a game. Probably some benefits for people in their prime years as well.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744958 is a reply to message #744955 ]	Thu, 17 October 2019 22:07

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 20:46

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 19:22

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 18:34

Good article about Bear on ON today. Talks about how he completely revamped his diet and attitude towards training and the results have been impressive.

https://oilersnation.com/2019/10/17/major-lifestyle-change-f or-edmonton-oilers-defenceman-ethan-bear/

I've always had this thinking of players now needing to lean out and drop pounds in the new NHL. I even remember asking Gregor about this on ON in the comments section of an article about nutrition many years back and him answering about a balance of gaining weight and keeping your same quickness which I think is very tough to do. I felt that the Oilers stars like Hall and Eberle were less effective at their game as the seasons went on because they were putting on too much mass.

You watch Hall and Eberle's first NHL game and how quick and shifty they were, Eberle looks like a twig but there's no way he would pull off a goal like that a couple seasons later when he was a lot bulkier.

I see how players like Gaudreau didn't bulk up at all, why was there any reason to do so? The game is about speed and if you're easier to knock off your feet that's probably a better chance at a penalty. His teammate Sam Bennett's game from junior is totally ruined, he couldn't do a single chin up at the Draft Combine and since then he's put on a lot of muscle. Now he's not quick, he's a shade of his former self. Look at his highlights from Kingston he was a much quicker player.

This season I think there are so many players that just dropped weight instead of muscling up, working on their speed. Matthews looks a lot leaner, obviously Neal dropped a good 20 lbs. I think in the next few seasons we see more NHL'ers come into camp lighter rather than adding muscle.

Interesting theory. I’d guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Training properly to increase strength without sacrificing mobility. I know Luongo and Tom Brady both extended their careers because they would stretch for hours prior to a game. Probably some benefits for people in their prime years as well.

Lucic got an assist tonight and was in the vicinity of another goal. Bulkiness still is a thing.

In truth, I’m a believer in overall fitness. Specific weight training is archaic. Specifically Lucic as an example. He looked even worse than previous years. If possible he’s lost a step.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744959 is a reply to message #744958 ]	Thu, 17 October 2019 22:41

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Are you serious?

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2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744960 is a reply to message #744958 ]	Thu, 17 October 2019 22:47

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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 21:07

Lucic got an assist tonight and was in the vicinity of another goal. Bulkiness still is a thing.

In truth, I’m a believer in overall fitness. Specific weight training is archaic. Specifically Lucic as an example. He looked even worse than previous years. If possible he’s lost a step.

That Red Wind defender was scared to take the hit and heard the Looch train coming through, gotta give credit where it's due. A shot that missed the Flames net and acted as a dump in so no icing which turned the d around. Possibly the only play left that Looch is still valuable on. Happens a few times a year maybe.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744964 is a reply to message #744960 ]	Thu, 17 October 2019 23:08

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I guess they'll have to update this site. (Not mine I saw this on HF)

http://www.gonestreaking.ca/

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744972 is a reply to message #744943 ]	Fri, 18 October 2019 08:55

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 17:37

Besides E. Bear, the other guy i'm really surprised at how effective he is, is P. Russell, I thought he was done last year, and surprised Oilers qualified him. Tippet can judge talent, most vital ingredient of a coach or GM.

Funny, I haven't been that impressed with Russell. I'm curious what you're seeing with him. I'll watch for it tonight, but I've thought he's just been another of the nobodies on the bottom 6.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744975 is a reply to message #744958 ]	Fri, 18 October 2019 09:17

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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 22:07

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 20:46

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 19:22

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 18:34

Good article about Bear on ON today. Talks about how he completely revamped his diet and attitude towards training and the results have been impressive.

https://oilersnation.com/2019/10/17/major-lifestyle-change-f or-edmonton-oilers-defenceman-ethan-bear/

I've always had this thinking of players now needing to lean out and drop pounds in the new NHL. I even remember asking Gregor about this on ON in the comments section of an article about nutrition many years back and him answering about a balance of gaining weight and keeping your same quickness which I think is very tough to do. I felt that the Oilers stars like Hall and Eberle were less effective at their game as the seasons went on because they were putting on too much mass.

You watch Hall and Eberle's first NHL game and how quick and shifty they were, Eberle looks like a twig but there's no way he would pull off a goal like that a couple seasons later when he was a lot bulkier.

I see how players like Gaudreau didn't bulk up at all, why was there any reason to do so? The game is about speed and if you're easier to knock off your feet that's probably a better chance at a penalty. His teammate Sam Bennett's game from junior is totally ruined, he couldn't do a single chin up at the Draft Combine and since then he's put on a lot of muscle. Now he's not quick, he's a shade of his former self. Look at his highlights from Kingston he was a much quicker player.

This season I think there are so many players that just dropped weight instead of muscling up, working on their speed. Matthews looks a lot leaner, obviously Neal dropped a good 20 lbs. I think in the next few seasons we see more NHL'ers come into camp lighter rather than adding muscle.

Interesting theory. I’d guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Training properly to increase strength without sacrificing mobility. I know Luongo and Tom Brady both extended their careers because they would stretch for hours prior to a game. Probably some benefits for people in their prime years as well.

Lucic got an assist tonight and was in the vicinity of another goal. Bulkiness still is a thing.

In truth, I’m a believer in overall fitness. Specific weight training is archaic. Specifically Lucic as an example. He looked even worse than previous years. If possible he’s lost a step.

I fully expect Lucic to get 5-7 goals and have around 20 pts for the Flames.

I find myself watching a little more Flames hockey just because I like hearing the Flames broadcasters trying to justify Lucic's existence. They laughed at the Oilers when Oilers media did it. I watched part of the Flames game. I saw the play on his assist. He came "flying" into the corner and it was going to be a tie for who got the puck. The chicken ___ Wings defender basically stopped skating because Lucic might have had to touch him, gave him the puck and he was able to put it out front. It was a pathetic play by that Wings dman and not a play that will happen a lot. If I was the Wings coach, I would be zipping a strip off that dman. That can't happen.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744976 is a reply to message #744972 ]	Fri, 18 October 2019 09:44

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Adam wrote on Fri, 18 October 2019 07:55

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 17:37

Besides E. Bear, the other guy i'm really surprised at how effective he is, is P. Russell, I thought he was done last year, and surprised Oilers qualified him. Tippet can judge talent, most vital ingredient of a coach or GM.

Funny, I haven't been that impressed with Russell. I'm curious what you're seeing with him. I'll watch for it tonight, but I've thought he's just been another of the nobodies on the bottom 6.

I didn't say impressed I said surprised. He's effective getting on the forecheck and can work a cycle, heavy on the stick, usually hangs on to the puck and doesn't cough it up very often ... which surprises me from where I viewed him, I didn't think he was worth an AHL contract.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744981 is a reply to message #744975 ]	Fri, 18 October 2019 10:18

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 18 October 2019 09:17

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 22:07

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 20:46

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 19:22

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 18:34

Good article about Bear on ON today. Talks about how he completely revamped his diet and attitude towards training and the results have been impressive.

https://oilersnation.com/2019/10/17/major-lifestyle-change-f or-edmonton-oilers-defenceman-ethan-bear/

I've always had this thinking of players now needing to lean out and drop pounds in the new NHL. I even remember asking Gregor about this on ON in the comments section of an article about nutrition many years back and him answering about a balance of gaining weight and keeping your same quickness which I think is very tough to do. I felt that the Oilers stars like Hall and Eberle were less effective at their game as the seasons went on because they were putting on too much mass.

You watch Hall and Eberle's first NHL game and how quick and shifty they were, Eberle looks like a twig but there's no way he would pull off a goal like that a couple seasons later when he was a lot bulkier.

I see how players like Gaudreau didn't bulk up at all, why was there any reason to do so? The game is about speed and if you're easier to knock off your feet that's probably a better chance at a penalty. His teammate Sam Bennett's game from junior is totally ruined, he couldn't do a single chin up at the Draft Combine and since then he's put on a lot of muscle. Now he's not quick, he's a shade of his former self. Look at his highlights from Kingston he was a much quicker player.

This season I think there are so many players that just dropped weight instead of muscling up, working on their speed. Matthews looks a lot leaner, obviously Neal dropped a good 20 lbs. I think in the next few seasons we see more NHL'ers come into camp lighter rather than adding muscle.

Interesting theory. I’d guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Training properly to increase strength without sacrificing mobility. I know Luongo and Tom Brady both extended their careers because they would stretch for hours prior to a game. Probably some benefits for people in their prime years as well.

Lucic got an assist tonight and was in the vicinity of another goal. Bulkiness still is a thing.

In truth, I’m a believer in overall fitness. Specific weight training is archaic. Specifically Lucic as an example. He looked even worse than previous years. If possible he’s lost a step.

I fully expect Lucic to get 5-7 goals and have around 20 pts for the Flames.

I find myself watching a little more Flames hockey just because I like hearing the Flames broadcasters trying to justify Lucic's existence. They laughed at the Oilers when Oilers media did it. I watched part of the Flames game. I saw the play on his assist. He came "flying" into the corner and it was going to be a tie for who got the puck. The chicken ___ Wings defender basically stopped skating because Lucic might have had to touch him, gave him the puck and he was able to put it out front. It was a pathetic play by that Wings dman and not a play that will happen a lot. If I was the Wings coach, I would be zipping a strip off that dman. That can't happen.

I still don't think Lucic clears 5 goals this year. Maybe 15 points, 20 if lucky.

The way it's gone so far, he's going to have less points than Neal has goals, and maybe less shots too. And by the end of the year, most Flames fans will hate that he's on their team.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744984 is a reply to message #744981 ]	Fri, 18 October 2019 10:26

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Adam wrote on Fri, 18 October 2019 10:18

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 18 October 2019 09:17

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 22:07

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 20:46

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 19:22

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 18:34

Good article about Bear on ON today. Talks about how he completely revamped his diet and attitude towards training and the results have been impressive.

https://oilersnation.com/2019/10/17/major-lifestyle-change-f or-edmonton-oilers-defenceman-ethan-bear/

I've always had this thinking of players now needing to lean out and drop pounds in the new NHL. I even remember asking Gregor about this on ON in the comments section of an article about nutrition many years back and him answering about a balance of gaining weight and keeping your same quickness which I think is very tough to do. I felt that the Oilers stars like Hall and Eberle were less effective at their game as the seasons went on because they were putting on too much mass.

You watch Hall and Eberle's first NHL game and how quick and shifty they were, Eberle looks like a twig but there's no way he would pull off a goal like that a couple seasons later when he was a lot bulkier.

I see how players like Gaudreau didn't bulk up at all, why was there any reason to do so? The game is about speed and if you're easier to knock off your feet that's probably a better chance at a penalty. His teammate Sam Bennett's game from junior is totally ruined, he couldn't do a single chin up at the Draft Combine and since then he's put on a lot of muscle. Now he's not quick, he's a shade of his former self. Look at his highlights from Kingston he was a much quicker player.

This season I think there are so many players that just dropped weight instead of muscling up, working on their speed. Matthews looks a lot leaner, obviously Neal dropped a good 20 lbs. I think in the next few seasons we see more NHL'ers come into camp lighter rather than adding muscle.

Interesting theory. I’d guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Training properly to increase strength without sacrificing mobility. I know Luongo and Tom Brady both extended their careers because they would stretch for hours prior to a game. Probably some benefits for people in their prime years as well.

Lucic got an assist tonight and was in the vicinity of another goal. Bulkiness still is a thing.

In truth, I’m a believer in overall fitness. Specific weight training is archaic. Specifically Lucic as an example. He looked even worse than previous years. If possible he’s lost a step.

I fully expect Lucic to get 5-7 goals and have around 20 pts for the Flames.

I find myself watching a little more Flames hockey just because I like hearing the Flames broadcasters trying to justify Lucic's existence. They laughed at the Oilers when Oilers media did it. I watched part of the Flames game. I saw the play on his assist. He came "flying" into the corner and it was going to be a tie for who got the puck. The chicken ___ Wings defender basically stopped skating because Lucic might have had to touch him, gave him the puck and he was able to put it out front. It was a pathetic play by that Wings dman and not a play that will happen a lot. If I was the Wings coach, I would be zipping a strip off that dman. That can't happen.

I still don't think Lucic clears 5 goals this year. Maybe 15 points, 20 if lucky.

The way it's gone so far, he's going to have less points than Neal has goals, and maybe less shots too. And by the end of the year, most Flames fans will hate that he's on their team.

You could be right, maybe I was too generous for Lucic. I have went to Flamesnation a few times just to read some things and some of the fans are sure holding on to that 3rd round pick as a justification. "It's a deep draft". I will take a legit, real NHLer who will probably score 20 goals this year over a 3rd round draft pick who could easily never play in the league or take 5 years to get there to get rid of Lucic. It's rather comical what Flames media and fans are saying.

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744985 is a reply to message #744984 ]	Fri, 18 October 2019 10:36

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 18 October 2019 10:26

Adam wrote on Fri, 18 October 2019 10:18

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 18 October 2019 09:17

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 22:07

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 20:46

WhoreableGuy wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 19:22

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 18:34

Good article about Bear on ON today. Talks about how he completely revamped his diet and attitude towards training and the results have been impressive.

https://oilersnation.com/2019/10/17/major-lifestyle-change-f or-edmonton-oilers-defenceman-ethan-bear/

I've always had this thinking of players now needing to lean out and drop pounds in the new NHL. I even remember asking Gregor about this on ON in the comments section of an article about nutrition many years back and him answering about a balance of gaining weight and keeping your same quickness which I think is very tough to do. I felt that the Oilers stars like Hall and Eberle were less effective at their game as the seasons went on because they were putting on too much mass.

You watch Hall and Eberle's first NHL game and how quick and shifty they were, Eberle looks like a twig but there's no way he would pull off a goal like that a couple seasons later when he was a lot bulkier.

I see how players like Gaudreau didn't bulk up at all, why was there any reason to do so? The game is about speed and if you're easier to knock off your feet that's probably a better chance at a penalty. His teammate Sam Bennett's game from junior is totally ruined, he couldn't do a single chin up at the Draft Combine and since then he's put on a lot of muscle. Now he's not quick, he's a shade of his former self. Look at his highlights from Kingston he was a much quicker player.

This season I think there are so many players that just dropped weight instead of muscling up, working on their speed. Matthews looks a lot leaner, obviously Neal dropped a good 20 lbs. I think in the next few seasons we see more NHL'ers come into camp lighter rather than adding muscle.

Interesting theory. I’d guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Training properly to increase strength without sacrificing mobility. I know Luongo and Tom Brady both extended their careers because they would stretch for hours prior to a game. Probably some benefits for people in their prime years as well.

Lucic got an assist tonight and was in the vicinity of another goal. Bulkiness still is a thing.

In truth, I’m a believer in overall fitness. Specific weight training is archaic. Specifically Lucic as an example. He looked even worse than previous years. If possible he’s lost a step.

I fully expect Lucic to get 5-7 goals and have around 20 pts for the Flames.

I find myself watching a little more Flames hockey just because I like hearing the Flames broadcasters trying to justify Lucic's existence. They laughed at the Oilers when Oilers media did it. I watched part of the Flames game. I saw the play on his assist. He came "flying" into the corner and it was going to be a tie for who got the puck. The chicken ___ Wings defender basically stopped skating because Lucic might have had to touch him, gave him the puck and he was able to put it out front. It was a pathetic play by that Wings dman and not a play that will happen a lot. If I was the Wings coach, I would be zipping a strip off that dman. That can't happen.

I still don't think Lucic clears 5 goals this year. Maybe 15 points, 20 if lucky.

The way it's gone so far, he's going to have less points than Neal has goals, and maybe less shots too. And by the end of the year, most Flames fans will hate that he's on their team.

You could be right, maybe I was too generous for Lucic. I have went to Flamesnation a few times just to read some things and some of the fans are sure holding on to that 3rd round pick as a justification. "It's a deep draft". I will take a legit, real NHLer who will probably score 20 goals this year over a 3rd round draft pick who could easily never play in the league or take 5 years to get there to get rid of Lucic. It's rather comical what Flames media and fans are saying.

To be fair, with the Oilers luck, that third round pick is probably the next Johnny Gaudreau...

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Re: Review: Philadelphia @ Edmonton (Game #7) [message #744987 is a reply to message #744985 ]	Fri, 18 October 2019 10:41

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 17 October 2019 18:34

Good article about Bear on ON today. Talks about how he completely revamped his diet and attitude towards training and the results have been impressive.

https://oilersnation.com/2019/10/17/major-lifestyle-change-f or-edmonton-oilers-defenceman-ethan-bear/

I've always had this thinking of players now needing to lean out and drop pounds in the new NHL. I even remember asking Gregor about this on ON in the comments section of an article about nutrition many years back and him answering about a balance of gaining weight and keeping your same quickness which I think is very tough to do. I felt that the Oilers stars like Hall and Eberle were less effective at their game as the seasons went on because they were putting on too much mass.

You watch Hall and Eberle's first NHL game and how quick and shifty they were, Eberle looks like a twig but there's no way he would pull off a goal like that a couple seasons later when he was a lot bulkier.

I see how players like Gaudreau didn't bulk up at all, why was there any reason to do so? The game is about speed and if you're easier to knock off your feet that's probably a better chance at a penalty. His teammate Sam Bennett's game from junior is totally ruined, he couldn't do a single chin up at the Draft Combine and since then he's put on a lot of muscle. Now he's not quick, he's a shade of his former self. Look at his highlights from Kingston he was a much quicker player.

This season I think there are so many players that just dropped weight instead of muscling up, working on their speed. Matthews looks a lot leaner, obviously Neal dropped a good 20 lbs. I think in the next few seasons we see more NHL'ers come into camp lighter rather than adding muscle.

Interesting theory. I’d guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Training properly to increase strength without sacrificing mobility. I know Luongo and Tom Brady both extended their careers because they would stretch for hours prior to a game. Probably some benefits for people in their prime years as well.

Lucic got an assist tonight and was in the vicinity of another goal. Bulkiness still is a thing.

In truth, I’m a believer in overall fitness. Specific weight training is archaic. Specifically Lucic as an example. He looked even worse than previous years. If possible he’s lost a step.

I fully expect Lucic to get 5-7 goals and have around 20 pts for the Flames.

I find myself watching a little more Flames hockey just because I like hearing the Flames broadcasters trying to justify Lucic's existence. They laughed at the Oilers when Oilers media did it. I watched part of the Flames game. I saw the play on his assist. He came "flying" into the corner and it was going to be a tie for who got the puck. The chicken ___ Wings defender basically stopped skating because Lucic might have had to touch him, gave him the puck and he was able to put it out front. It was a pathetic play by that Wings dman and not a play that will happen a lot. If I was the Wings coach, I would be zipping a strip off that dman. That can't happen.

I still don't think Lucic clears 5 goals this year. Maybe 15 points, 20 if lucky.

The way it's gone so far, he's going to have less points than Neal has goals, and maybe less shots too. And by the end of the year, most Flames fans will hate that he's on their team.

You could be right, maybe I was too generous for Lucic. I have went to Flamesnation a few times just to read some things and some of the fans are sure holding on to that 3rd round pick as a justification. "It's a deep draft". I will take a legit, real NHLer who will probably score 20 goals this year over a 3rd round draft pick who could easily never play in the league or take 5 years to get there to get rid of Lucic. It's rather comical what Flames media and fans are saying.

To be fair, with the Oilers luck, that third round pick is probably the next Johnny Gaudreau...

If that's the case, I am still OK with it. Getting rid of Lucic is HUGE for this team. On the ice is obvious but I also I think off the ice is just as big.

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