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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843121 is a reply to message #843115 ]
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We are so darn cooked.


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843125 is a reply to message #843121 ]
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Pathetic

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Too old, too slow, bad goaltending, bad D, no run support, no fight... this team has nothing.


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843134 is a reply to message #843125 ]
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Sure Skinner isn't great, but this team leaves it's netminders out to dry so many times. It's cost us badly so far in this series.

To many players playing at only 20% or less today. Things have to change and change quickly.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843136 is a reply to message #843134 ]
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Leia wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 21:49

Sure Skinner isn't great, but this team leaves it's netminders out to dry so many times. It's cost us badly so far in this series.

To many players playing at only 20% or less today. Things have to change and change quickly.


It’s not Skinner’s fault… but he’s not good enough to bail out the team when they make mistakes. He’s not as good as the rest of the team is bad.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843141 is a reply to message #843134 ]
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Leia wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 22:49

Sure Skinner isn't great, but this team leaves it's netminders out to dry so many times. It's cost us badly so far in this series.

To many players playing at only 20% or less today. Things have to change and change quickly.

You need to be able to make a tough save here and there. His confidence is completely shot.

The crowd is clearly in his head as well. Late in the game on a close up after a save he waited for the LA crowd to taunt, then grinning in his helmet as they jeer him, taunting his name. Just stop the puck Stu.

The team seems to play better in front of Pickard and seem to genuinely love the guy.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843146 is a reply to message #843141 ]
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g2k wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 22:06

Leia wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 22:49

Sure Skinner isn't great, but this team leaves it's netminders out to dry so many times. It's cost us badly so far in this series.

To many players playing at only 20% or less today. Things have to change and change quickly.

You need to be able to make a tough save here and there. His confidence is completely shot.

The crowd is clearly in his head as well. Late in the game on a close up after a save he waited for the LA crowd to taunt, then grinning in his helmet as they jeer him, taunting his name. Just stop the puck Stu.

The team seems to play better in front of Pickard and seem to genuinely love the guy.


They know Pickard ain’t getting any shutouts or stealing a game, but he can atleast give the team a chance to win if they score enough. Skinner turns into those beaded curtain door things from the 60s/70s at the worst possible moment.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843164 is a reply to message #843121 ]
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nullterm wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 05:33

We are so darn cooked.

Yep. The Oil is totally degradaded. 😢



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843131 is a reply to message #843115 ]
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One team seems to have a gameplan and are sticking to it.

Other team. Not so much…



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843133 is a reply to message #843115 ]
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If the coach starts Skinner on Friday, he’s crazy.


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843137 is a reply to message #843133 ]
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g2k wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 22:48

If the coach starts Skinner on Friday, he’s crazy.

I would have thought there's no way but why else would he put Pickard in in that situation.

If he is dumb enough to die on that hill then he will deserve the result.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843138 is a reply to message #843137 ]
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Whatever mojo this team had died when they brought in Bowman against the desire of everyone who wanted nothing to do with the guy and supposed lifetime ban.

The Holloway and Broberg offer sheet and loss, and everything else down hill.

[Updated on: Wed, 23 April 2025 23:02]


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843139 is a reply to message #843138 ]
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Hollaway career year, Brobreg career year, Foegele career year, Ceci been great with Dallas and you replaced with Skinner worst year, Arvidsson worst year, Emberson worst year, Podkolzin meh, whos Frederic? like why trade for a injured player lol Then you trade for another left handed dman in Walman which you need righty.

Terrible assest management at its finest



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843142 is a reply to message #843138 ]
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nullterm wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:00

Whatever mojo this team had died when they brought in Bowman against the desire of everyone who wanted nothing to do with the guy and supposed lifetime ban.

The Holloway and Broberg offer sheet and loss, and everything else down hill.

I agree.

Mr Player Agent silent GM guy was a head scratcher too.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843144 is a reply to message #843138 ]
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nullterm wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:00

Whatever mojo this team had died when they brought in Bowman against the desire of everyone who wanted nothing to do with the guy and supposed lifetime ban.

The Holloway and Broberg offer sheet and loss, and everything else down hill.


Are we ready for Quenneville joining us mid-season next year though?



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843135 is a reply to message #843115 ]
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Feels like the only thing that can save us is the power of California closets. Get back home and absorb the greatness Skinner and everyone else!


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843140 is a reply to message #843135 ]
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Better team won. Our PK says so, our PP says so. 2/25 are continuously exposed. Knoby goes to 97/29, leaving LA to have to focus on 1 line only. Knoby doesn't realize 93 is certainly not a 2C centre anymore. Our centres can't win a PK faceoff to save their lives. The big guys refuse to take the puck to the net.

Jackson is largely to blame on this team's composition: too old, too slow, too soft.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843143 is a reply to message #843140 ]
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watchman wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:04

Better team won. Our PK says so, our PP says so. 2/25 are continuously exposed. Knoby goes to 97/29, leaving LA to have to focus on 1 line only. Knoby doesn't realize 93 is certainly not a 2C centre anymore. Our centres can't win a PK faceoff to save their lives. The big guys refuse to take the puck to the net.

Jackson is largely to blame on this team's composition: too old, too slow, too soft.

I'd love to see 93 get healthy scratched but there really is no other option. He's looking even more useless than usual this time of year.



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Anyone missing Ken Holland yet?

Oilers PK is short bus special in this series. Killed 2 of 5 tonight. I think other than the 5 vs 3 it's been atrocious.

[Updated on: Wed, 23 April 2025 23:17]


So this is what hope feels like?

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halfafrog wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:16

Anyone missing Ken Holland yet?

Oilers PK is short bus special in this series. Killed 2 of 5 tonight. I think other than the 5 vs 3 it's been atrocious.


Weren't gonna win with Holland either. Probably wouldn't have even spent Kane's LTIR money. I'd say we miss competent GMing period, but I don't even remember what that looks like. Got close to a miracle last year taking McDrai for granted, but still fell short because of crap GMing.

It's honestly hard to have any respect for the team the Oilers have built when you take a look at how other teams have rebuilt without gifts of generational talents, like Florida, and LA. Just piece by piece making good moves, via the draft and trades, to incrementally add players that perfectly fit with the overall vision of the team. We still just grab at the first shiny things we see and blow our cap space ASAP.

[Updated on: Wed, 23 April 2025 23:25]


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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #2) [message #843167 is a reply to message #843147 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:21

halfafrog wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:16

Anyone missing Ken Holland yet?

Oilers PK is short bus special in this series. Killed 2 of 5 tonight. I think other than the 5 vs 3 it's been atrocious.


Weren't gonna win with Holland either. Probably wouldn't have even spent Kane's LTIR money. I'd say we miss competent GMing period, but I don't even remember what that looks like. Got close to a miracle last year taking McDrai for granted, but still fell short because of crap GMing.

It's honestly hard to have any respect for the team the Oilers have built when you take a look at how other teams have rebuilt without gifts of generational talents, like Florida, and LA. Just piece by piece making good moves, via the draft and trades, to incrementally add players that perfectly fit with the overall vision of the team. We still just grab at the first shiny things we see and blow our cap space ASAP.


Other than one year in 2005-06, it's hard to think of any time since Sather that the Oilers have been competently managed. I'll once again express my frustration that they at no point addressed the glaring issues in goalie as a dozen other goalies moved in the last year - however, at this point the management is unable to impact things further this year so I'll hold off on commenting on them any further than that right now.

Coaching is going to be really tested right now. The Kings have a good game plan for both the penalty kill and the powerplay and they've eaten us alive at special teams. We again seem to have a team waiting for 97 and 29 to save them rather than trying themselves to create something. We do have a couple of depth goals, but I'd like them to be more consistently a threat.

Is Hyman hurt? He looks ineffective right now and easily knocked over. He almost had a goal on the early PP last night (would kill to see our goalies make a save like that), but otherwise he's been just a shadow of himself for any games he's played in the last month. It would be really useful if he and Nugent-Hopkins were able to have a big game or two.

I still would have Jeff Skinner in the lineup, with most likely Janmark coming out. Janmark is a good PK guy, but I mean, that's all he brings. Skinner's production with even limited minutes this year was still good.

Two bad games, around .800 sv% and over 5.5 GAA, and I am now more easily convinced on sitting Skinner and letting him reset while praying that Pickard can hold the fort. Ugly to have to sit your starter in the third game of the playoffs for a back-up goalie though, and Skinner is going to have to find a way to bounce back. We're just not going to be able to rely on Pickard for four rounds. We need to have a few saves here.

Ultimately though other than making some system tweaks and adjusting to what the Kings are doing, we can't panic yet. It is only Game 3, and we haven't yet lost a game at home. We have the best player in the world and another who may win the Hart this year. We have shown we can score in bunches on Kuemper. In 2006, the San Jose series looked like men against boys for the first two games...and then the Oilers dominated the rest of the way, winning in six. We just need to do the same here.

I think some of the wrist-slitting here and around the city is a little premature.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 22:53

Feels like the only thing that can save us is the power of California closets. Get back home and absorb the greatness Skinner and everyone else!


I question this now because I'm realizing that Stu would have been around closets literally in California through these first 2 games.

It may actually be hopeless.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:43

In McDavid I trust.




The same as ithey've always been. Hope and pray McDavid can outscore the problems.



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The one bright side of us being so awful is that I am able to get to bed before 2am - no need to stay up to watch that garbage.

Once again we only really played one period (the first). Whole team just seems disinterested.



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Knob saying that the penalties being called against them are frustrating and that's all he'll say about that.

Why? What is he worried about - a fine? What difference does that make if you don't have a job?

Call out byfield for flopping all over the ice. Call out the refs for falling for it every single time and for being publicly manipulated by Phill Danault in the media. Call them out for not calling a penalty on 29 and 97 on every single shift or targeting Kane based on reputation. Or lose it on them during the game. Now's the time.

Take the focus off your players. Take a fine and say what everyone can clearly see. It's embarrassing the way he meekly just accepts it. News flash - the league won't deal with it.



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Jay wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 12:34

Knob saying that the penalties being called against them are frustrating and that's all he'll say about that.

Why? What is he worried about - a fine? What difference does that make if you don't have a job?

Call out byfield for flopping all over the ice. Call out the refs for falling for it every single time and for being publicly manipulated by Phill Danault in the media. Call them out for not calling a penalty on 29 and 97 on every single shift or targeting Kane based on reputation. Or lose it on them during the game. Now's the time.

Take the focus off your players. Take a fine and say what everyone can clearly see. It's embarrassing the way he meekly just accepts it. News flash - the league won't deal with it.

It is frustrating but there is more to it than that. We also haven't scored on 5 powerplay. We almost look like we have given up. It's sad



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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:49

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:43

In McDavid I trust.




The same as ithey've always been. Hope and pray McDavid can outscore the problems.


60 point playoff year for McDavid or Bust!



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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 10:41

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:49

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:43

In McDavid I trust.




The same as ithey've always been. Hope and pray McDavid can outscore the problems.


60 point playoff year for McDavid or Bust!

That's going to be tough to do in 4 more games. Snap.

I really don't know what levers Knob has to pull with the team. They might just be who they are this point.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 10:27

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 10:41

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:49

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:43

In McDavid I trust.




The same as ithey've always been. Hope and pray McDavid can outscore the problems.


60 point playoff year for McDavid or Bust!

That's going to be tough to do in 4 more games. Snap.

I really don't know what levers Knob has to pull with the team. They might just be who they are this point.


Play Pickard.

Minimize Bouchard's 5 on 5 on 3rd pair and explicit tell HIM no more dumb <stuff> in his end, and if he's defending there better be body contact with the King, no just standing 6ft away watching it happen. But I'd even be tempted to press box him after his last two games.

Everyone to play simple conservative hockey in their own end. No Kings anywhere near the slot without someone right on them.

After that, you pucker your butt and hope you still have a job after two games.



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nullterm wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 12:08

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 10:27

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 10:41

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:49

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:43

In McDavid I trust.




The same as ithey've always been. Hope and pray McDavid can outscore the problems.


60 point playoff year for McDavid or Bust!

That's going to be tough to do in 4 more games. Snap.

I really don't know what levers Knob has to pull with the team. They might just be who they are this point.


Play Pickard.

Minimize Bouchard's 5 on 5 on 3rd pair and explicit tell HIM no more dumb <stuff> in his end, and if he's defending there better be body contact with the King, no just standing 6ft away watching it happen. But I'd even be tempted to press box him after his last two games.

Everyone to play simple conservative hockey in their own end. No Kings anywhere near the slot without someone right on them.

After that, you pucker your butt and hope you still have a job after two games.


Might be time for a Coffey convo to start up again. The "don't be afraid to take chances and make plays" defensive coaching may just be something you can do for half a season before guys start to lose practice and memory of all other defensive fundamentals.

All our D, including Ekholm when he was healthy, have taken a step back in their awareness in our zone. Nurse climbed back closer to average, but he set a low bar last year to recover from, and seems to be back to his last year form again now.



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This is one of the best forward depth teams on paper.

If you can’t have a fighting chance with Nuge, Hyman, Arvidsson, Henrique, Kane, Jeff Skinner in addition to tae two best forwards in the NHL…then I think you’re doing it wrong. They all can score. Spamming McDavid Draisaitl to 4 point nights every game just isn’t going to work.

They are an older group but capable. Danault Kopitar and Doughty are older too, they have no problems creating damage.

Disappointing that the coach couldn’t get better from this group after the 4 nations. Disappointing that all those managers and analytics team didn’t think they needed another goalie. You can see how quickly a plan B of just Pickard can waste a valuable season of these 2 guys.



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smyth260 wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 12:57

This is one of the best forward depth teams on paper.

If you can’t have a fighting chance with Nuge, Hyman, Arvidsson, Henrique, Kane, Jeff Skinner in addition to tae two best forwards in the NHL…then I think you’re doing it wrong. They all can score. Spamming McDavid Draisaitl to 4 point nights every game just isn’t going to work.

They are an older group but capable. Danault Kopitar and Doughty are older too, they have no problems creating damage.

Disappointing that the coach couldn’t get better from this group after the 4 nations. Disappointing that all those managers and analytics team didn’t think they needed another goalie. You can see how quickly a plan B of just Pickard can waste a valuable season of these 2 guys.


Definite problem all season is zero chemistry was created with this group this season. The Kings look like a well oiled machine, even Kuzmenko found almost immediate chemistry joining their group.

It may be that the entire LA identity has been created to for the purpose of defeating us and they just bomb out of the playoffs right after :) But against the Oilers at least, they all seem to know exactly how to exploit us, and don't need high end talent for almost all their players to look useful.



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 23 April 2025 23:43

In McDavid I trust.




Sadly, it appears too many teammates of his echo this..



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Guys... this year is not the year.

It pains me to say the fall from the final, to a 1st round exist is gonna hurt.

We may take the 1st game but the Kings are way too organized against the passive play by the majority of the Oilers.

Goal tending just is not there.

This sucks man.



The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

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Someone explain please, how do we get from a cup contender to the complete trash the team is now…. How do you not support this poor McDavid to at least have a fair chance to compete. How can you not see how slow this Stu is… and just making positional saves. All teams have some sort of a goalie…. yet Edmonton never has;
Why are they always playing such open games…. how can you not use 82 games to develop defensive awareness…. Why is Buch so praised…. What makes that guy a good player!? How can you play as a defender and have absolutely no clue to defend…. for so many years…. Why are they playing Nurse? He is a hockey player with a chicken brain…. he even moves like a chicken…. sorry…
Why did they discarded both those young players…. at least keep Broberg… when we know we always had huge lack of defenders….
If i were McDavid now, i would hit the free agency…. and to make things clear, i would make it public; Edmonton deserves this…. they took so many years of success from this guy; This, will most likely improve Edmonton too…. they will finally understand that you need to be professional at any level…. They are a joke…. that had luck drafting this McDavid…. I Support this team…. but it’s hard to accept the reality… this team just made money to specific few…. rest it’s trash…



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cpcos wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 13:55

Someone explain please, how do we get from a cup contender to the complete trash the team is now…. …


Hockey is almost a pure team sport where seemingly insignificant changes in composition, luck, and performance can have an oversized impact on results.

The Oilers got a little older, a little slower, and had worse luck with injuries. At the same time everyone else kind of figured out what the Oilers were doing to be successful and worked hard to get just a little bit better. For example, the Oilers faced Talbot, Rittich, Silvovs, and maybe DeSmith (I can't remember) in the first two rounds of the playoffs but will get Kuemper and Hill or Gustavsson this year.

To cherry pick a few basic stats save percentage, PDO, and PP% dropped from .921 / 100.2 / 26.34 to .911 / 98.5 / 23.72. Little changes, big impact. Still, they can win game 3. And if they can win game 3 there's no reason to think they can't win game 4. Us fans just gotta believe.




*last year they had 13 players miss 6 or fewer games, the top 6 D lost a combined total of 12 games, McDrai missed a combined 7.



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I want to agree with you… believe me i do! But we are talking about 12 goals…. in 2 games! In playoffs! I am not talking about losing 2 games…. I am looking at the score…. you think first game was close!? God it wasn’t…. McDavid used up his last breath to pull off an incredible and almost impossible comeback…. that one should be 6-1…. 6-2 perhaps… so i talk about 12-4 for the Kings…. in playoffs and Oilers praised to win it all this year…
Let that sink in a bit…. Don’t talk about winning game 3….. how could we win!??? Perhaps only if we remove our net from the ice…. and keep only Kings net…. Otherwise… our net would fill in with pucks faster than a cup of soda at McDonalds….
Do you really fantasize Oilers can compete now with anyone!?



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cpcos wrote on Thu, 24 April 2025 14:33

I want to agree with you… believe me i do! But we are talking about 12 goals…. in 2 games! In playoffs! I am not talking about losing 2 games…. I am looking at the score…. you think first game was close!? God it wasn’t…. McDavid used up his last breath to pull off an incredible and almost impossible comeback…. that one should be 6-1…. 6-2 perhaps… so i talk about 12-4 for the Kings…. in playoffs and Oilers praised to win it all this year…
Let that sink in a bit…. Don’t talk about winning game 3….. how could we win!??? Perhaps only if we remove our net from the ice…. and keep only Kings net…. Otherwise… our net would fill in with pucks faster than a cup of soda at McDonalds….
Do you really fantasize Oilers can compete now with anyone!?



Keep in mind, in last year's finals Game#1 went 3-0 for Florida and Game#2 went 4-1 for Florida, and many of us were quite concerned that Florida had solved the Oilers scoring threat. Oilers dropped Game#3 4-3, and then beat Florida 8-1 in Game#4, and well we all know how close the series ended.




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