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Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832457]	Wed, 24 April 2024 22:30

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832470 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:08

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832471 is a reply to message #832470 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:08

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Couldn’t get a lead. Unreal

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832473 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:09

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Couldn’t get a save when they needed it.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832474 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:10

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832475 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:11

Kr55
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Wow. No bounces at all tonight. Just to rub it in a wild throw at the boards turns into the puck perfectly landing for a Kopitar breakaway.

Gotta play way better next game.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832476 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:11

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Lost the goalie battle tonight.

Clean house or bust

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832477 is a reply to message #832470 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:13

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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:08

Classic Nurse.

It was the other D-man having a shoving match at the redline when the goal went in that was the issue.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832479 is a reply to message #832473 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:14

Kr55
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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:09

Couldn’t get a save when they needed it.

Played pretty bad too. Got no bounces. McDavid off all night long. And still almost won.

Get crap together for game 3.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832480 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:15

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Skinner is not a goalie to win a cup…. no matter what everyone says.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832481 is a reply to message #832480 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:20

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cpcos wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:15

Skinner is not a goalie to win a cup…. no matter what everyone says.

It's too late for that now. He's gotta be the guy

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832482 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:21

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I’m really hoping the Oilers, local media and many fair weather fans at work learned something tonight.

The way local sports media was writing off the Kings in tonight’s game was a bit troubling.

#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832483 is a reply to message #832480 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:22

g2k
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cpcos wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:15

Skinner is not a goalie to win a cup…. no matter what everyone says.

I haven’t heard too many people saying it.

Except Hollandaise.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832484 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:29

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The Leafs would be leading Boston 3-0 if Stu was a Bruin.

Gonna take a miracle.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832485 is a reply to message #832482 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:31

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g2k wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:21

Can say the Kings aren't that good while also knowing the Oilers can play like crap. Hope no one following the Oilers more than a year doesn't not know we could play like that, or Skinner can go Swiss cheese. Still confused why he just tipped over backwards before being touched by Doughty instead of just stopping the slow sliding puck he was looking at. Fiala goal, still haven't seen an angle where it makes sense for him to have let it in.

Excuse me though while I call California closets to surround myself with excellence.

[Updated on: Wed, 24 April 2024 23:33]

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- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832486 is a reply to message #832484 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:41

Mike
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g2k wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 02:29

The Leafs would be leading Boston 3-0 if Stu was a Bruin.

Gonna take a miracle.

The answer, quite clearly is Calvin Pickard.

Better save % this year. Better GAA this year. Drafted a round earlier, so obviously way better. Born right here in Moncton. And on Canada Day! He’s the guy that will bring the Cup back to Canada.

Mostly tongue in cheek, but honestly, I’d give him a shot in game 3. Skinner with .892 in game 1, and then .808 tonight. He did make a few good stops game 1, but he was only ok.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832487 is a reply to message #832485 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:42

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:31

g2k wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:21

Everyone in the playoffs is good now. The bottom half is playing golf so now we're left with a very good team and a just good team. Even if it was easy, it wasn't going to be easy.

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832488 is a reply to message #832486 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:43

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Mike wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:41

g2k wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 02:29

The Leafs would be leading Boston 3-0 if Stu was a Bruin.

Gonna take a miracle.

I’m not there yet. I don’t think just sliding him into 1 game right now is the answer. I think that would crater Skinners confidence completely.

He needs to be a star Friday night.

#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832489 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Wed, 24 April 2024 23:54

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I absolutely love 97, but the video coach needs to put together a video montage of Connor trying to deke a handful of Kings and losing possession.

It’s a strategy I’m not that fond of right now. They have enough talent gain a zone and create chances better than that. It’s not working and ended up with the puck going the other way and in our net on one attempt.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832490 is a reply to message #832487 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 00:00

Kr55
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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:42

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:31

g2k wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:21

Everyone in the playoffs is good now. The bottom half is playing golf so now we're left with a very good team and a just good team. Even if it was easy, it wasn't going to be easy.

Yeah, you know what i mean though. Equal effort and luck, LA really has no business beating the Oilers.

Lots of good teams have choked it all away in the playoffs, or had a run of stupid bad luck, or simply didn't play like they could. Just gotta hope that's not us. We have a good advantage, but boys on the ice still gotta actually perform.

[Updated on: Thu, 25 April 2024 00:27]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832491 is a reply to message #832489 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 00:01

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g2k wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:54

That's kinda taking things for granted. Some overconfidence, and he did that through almost all the game. His wingers can help him, but he wanted to keep going for an individual effort highlight goal/play. Imagine he will be much better in game 3. Lots of wake up call opportunities to be had tonight.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832492 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 00:35

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Tough break for Nurse at the end there....but he's gotta read the situation more effectively as a "shutdown" guy.

What a waste of a game where we get two goals from a 4th liner and one from a 3rd pairing Dman.

Also, Leon needs to start driving play at even strength...for real tho

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832493 is a reply to message #832492 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 05:24

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On the bright side, I think that was about as good as the Kings can play, plus they got even more fortunate bounces. On the other hand, that wasn't even close to as good as we can play.

Let's get that one back next game. We'll be better.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832494 is a reply to message #832488 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 05:51

Jay
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g2k wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:43

Mike wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:41

g2k wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 02:29

The Leafs would be leading Boston 3-0 if Stu was a Bruin.

Gonna take a miracle.

I’m not there yet. I don’t think just sliding him into 1 game right now is the answer. I think that would crater Skinners confidence completely.

He needs to be a star Friday night.

This is the exact same conversation we had last year. Do you leave Skinner in to continue to not make a save and let in momentum killing goals because he's been designated the starter or do you play the other guy and see if you can get a save.

Last year they went back to him again and again to maintain his confidence (or something) and the bigger the moment got the worse the goaltending got.

We already know how this plays out with Skinner. I'd go to Pickard.

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832495 is a reply to message #832494 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 07:40

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Jay wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 05:51

g2k wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:43

Mike wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:41

g2k wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 02:29

The Leafs would be leading Boston 3-0 if Stu was a Bruin.

Gonna take a miracle.

I’m not there yet. I don’t think just sliding him into 1 game right now is the answer. I think that would crater Skinners confidence completely.

He needs to be a star Friday night.

Yeah, if I recall correctly Woody pulled him often, but would then trot him back out there the next game.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832496 is a reply to message #832457 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 08:08

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Holloway played 10 minutes to an injured Kane’s 16. I’d like to see the injured no defense player see less ice.

Clean house or bust

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832497 is a reply to message #832493 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 08:25

RDOilerfan
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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 05:24

I was going to say the same thing.

The Kings came out as if it was a game 7. They played hard.

I thought Bouchard didn't play well. First goal, he has complete control. He's the best puck mover by a mile on the team. He has a winger ready for the pass. He does a soft bank for some reason that is way too far and the puck gets turned over. That has to be a tape to tape but he wasn't trying to do that.

Second goal, I thought was awful on him. Good hand eye but Bouch is right beside Kempe. Just tie him up!! Instead he tries to bat the puck out of the air.
Before people get on me. This is not me bashing him. I like him, he does a ton good. For the Oilers, he touches the puck a ton and when he is off, it impacts them a lot and usually causes goals against. He wasn't good last night and factored in the loss big time. He will learn from it and be better next game.

I didn't love McD's game. 6 pts in 2 games looks great. But 5 of them were in the first game and they are all assists. The Kings were clearly keying on him and surrounding him trying to cut off the pass. I really hope someone like Leon or maybe Hyman talks to him and tells him while they really appreciate the passes, he has to shoot some. He's not a threat hardly at all right now to shoot the puck. He had 1 shot last night and he was trying to force passes. He needs to shoot more.

Skinner. I didn't love the 3rd goal. The Kings are getting the bounces big time right now. Doughty's goal, he loses control of the puck some and it goes in the perfect spot to go in but Skinner didn't play it well and I read this morning he said he misplayed it.

4th goal. He said he was screened but that can't go in. Not from that angle on the boards. I am not a goalie but to me, if you are in position the puck should hit you even if you are screened because the player wouldn't have an angle to shoot at.

With all that being said, the goalie not having his best game, a few very big mistakes their captain not playing well, and the Kings giving it their all, the game went to OT. In my opinion, to have a chance to win, the Kings have to play their best, they need bounces, they need Skinner to be mediocre, they need McD to be off and they need some big mistakes by an Oilers dman. That all happened last night. I don't think all that happens again in 1 game and even still, the Oilers could have won with a bounce here or there.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832498 is a reply to message #832482 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 08:26

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g2k wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:21

This, all day this. Never look past stay with what's in front of you. Play. Grind. Win. Repeat.

The Oilers had a good game one but they got passive. Too many puck watchers from Skinner on out. The reffing wasn't on our side last night and the Oilers need to understand that.

Play
Grind
Win
Repeat

That's the mantra.

Are they a stanley cup team? They need to tighten up defensively and expose those rare moments of breakdowns. Too few of the team really played with their head 100% in the game.

I won't single a player out on this loss because this is a team loss. End of story.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

Generally Disappointed.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832499 is a reply to message #832496 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 09:01

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smyth260 wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 08:08

Holloway played 10 minutes to an injured Kane’s 16. I’d like to see the injured no defense player see less ice.

Rightly or wrongly, the mass majority of NHL coaches defer to the vets in the playoffs because they trust them more. So I don't blame Knoblaugh for doing that.

I watched, way, way too many years in the past where the Oilers went way too young and threw their young guys to the wolves thrusting ice time on them they either weren't ready for it or didn't earn. At times in the past, I felt the young players played entitled and didn't play hungry enough or had the desire to push themselves to improve and evolve as a player. They knew they were getting their ice whether they were good or bad. So, I haven't had a problem with what the Oilers have done with Holloway. Keeping him down in the lines when in the NHL and if he wasn't getting enough minutes or showed he wasn't ready, send him down and play the crap out of him in the AHL.

He's a different player than he was early this season and in my opinion, it has to do with his time in the AHL. He's playing hungry. He's playing with confidence, he's playing more controlled rather than just flying around wildly. When he gets a shift, while playing properly, he's looking to make the most of it. He's playing well, when he is on the he's showing the coach he can trust him and he's making the most of his shifts. He's making the coach notice him in a good way. I suspect ice time is coming. He's doing what I expect a young guy to do. It's exciting because I had hopes for him. A big guy that can skate like the wind and can score. I was getting a bit nervous about him and him maybe not being as good as I hoped but since his call up late this year, I am starting to see why they drafted him.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832500 is a reply to message #832495 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 09:05

Mike
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g2k wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 10:40

Jay wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 05:51

g2k wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:43

Mike wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:41

g2k wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 02:29

The Leafs would be leading Boston 3-0 if Stu was a Bruin.

Gonna take a miracle.

I’m not there yet. I don’t think just sliding him into 1 game right now is the answer. I think that would crater Skinners confidence completely.

He needs to be a star Friday night.

Yeah, if I recall correctly Woody pulled him often, but would then trot him back out there the next game.

Boston has done goaltending by committee all year and apparently into the playoffs as well with 2 guys playing well above either Oilers goalie.

Pickard and Skinner both posted similar win% this year, but Pickard had both a better GAA (2.45 vs 2.62) and a better Save % (.909 vs .905)

I am a Skinner supporter, and he made a few awesome saves in game 1, but other than starting a lot more games than his counterpart, there's nothing about his performance this season compared to Pickard that should guarantee him the start.

I'd go with Pickard. Win and you stay in. I just don't see that much of a drop off, and I truly believe that going back to Skinner in game 6 cost us that series. Would hate to see them do it again this year.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832501 is a reply to message #832499 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 11:43

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Never ceases to amaze me with Oilers fans. One game where Skinner wasn't terrible, it just wasn't his best game and now question marks about if he's good enough.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832502 is a reply to message #832501 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 12:18

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 18:43

Never ceases to amaze me with Oilers fans. One game where Skinner wasn't terrible, it just wasn't his best game and now question marks about if he's good enough.

He definitely isn’t the reason the series is tied 1-1. But he hasn’t helped in my opinion. I agree fans way overreact though, it’s insane. Skinner is our goalie and will continue to get better

With that said letting up 8 goals in 2 games isn’t great. Again not all on him, but damn would be nice if he could have bailed us out on a couple of those goals

Oh well. Oil in 5

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832503 is a reply to message #832501 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 12:24

Mike
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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 14:43

Never ceases to amaze me with Oilers fans. One game where Skinner wasn't terrible, it just wasn't his best game and now question marks about if he's good enough.

Oh simmer down there, sport.

Just saying Pickard (who is also part of the team) played as well or better than Skinner this year, and Skinner does not have a history of being a stud playoff performer. Still a small sample size, but he was .883% and 3.68GAA last year, and .857 and 4.42 this year. He got pulled 4 times in 12 games last year (that has to be close to some sort of record).

Anyway - I am 100% certain that Skinner starts game 3. But I believe they need to give him a short leash. Obviously I'm hoping he stands on his head and doesn't let in another goal this year. But if he gets pulled or looks ugly in a loss, they need to try their backup.

Seems someone from the CP is wondering the same things...

https://www.timescolonist.com/indigenous-news/skinner-has-co nfidence-of-his-coach-but-playoff-goaltending-a-concern-for- oilers-8652592#google_vignette

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832504 is a reply to message #832503 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 12:45

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Went to check for fun - Skinner is statistically the worst playoff goalie ever in the cap era.

Of the 69 goalies that have played as much or more than him (14GP) since 2006, he ranks dead last in save % and GAA.

Skinner: .879, 3.81
Lehtonen: .887, 3.30

Let's hope he moves up that list quickly.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832505 is a reply to message #832503 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 13:32

Adam
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Mike wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 12:24

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 14:43

Never ceases to amaze me with Oilers fans. One game where Skinner wasn't terrible, it just wasn't his best game and now question marks about if he's good enough.

I am super hesitant to go to 32-year old career back-up who had career high numbers this year way out of step with his normal results. That looks like an outlier that could regress to the mean at any time.

That said, Skinner HAS to be better. The team completely hitched their wagon to him last summer when they didn't do anything else with the goaltending, and while I think that's a complete management fail, I don't know that I see a real option because if you put in Picard and he fails, well, you may have just broken the confidence of the only one who has a hope in hell of putting together a long enough hot streak to win a Cup.

Somehow, the Oilers need Skinner to play like he did in our winning streak in December and January. We've seen more of 2023-Playoff-Skinner so far, and that just can't continue. I believe we need to give him more rope, but if he were to continue to flounder, I guess at some point we WOULD have to toss the ball to that 32-year old back-up and pray for a playoff miracle the league hasn't seen since the likes of Michael Leighton and Antii Niemi.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832506 is a reply to message #832505 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 13:34

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One additional point. While the Oilers chance-suppression has been relatively good in the first couple of games, it would be nice if the ones they did allow weren't all ten-bell chances. With a goalie who's trying to pick up his confidence, I'd love if we didn't give them a lot of deep slot one-timers and breakaways in the few shots they get.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832507 is a reply to message #832504 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 13:50

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Mike wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 12:45

You really don't like Skinner do you?

He's got 14 career starts. That's an extremely small sample size and that include a bunch of goals going off guys skates and in which I am guessing you blame him for too?

By the way, Hellebuyck who might win the vezina this year is .870 and 5.04 after 2 games.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832508 is a reply to message #832507 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 14:20

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 16:50

Mike wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 12:45

And Helleybuyck is .914 and 2.70 for his career in the playoffs. If you don’t see the difference you’re being disingenuous at best.

Don’t like Skinner? I was pumping his tires 2 years ago before anyone else when we were still trotting out Koskinen and Grandpa Smith. I liked him well enough, but I have concerns about his playoff play. Being worst ever in the cap era I think is cause for concern.

I hope he finds the level he had during those winning streaks - THAT guy I think can win us a Cup.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832509 is a reply to message #832505 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 14:33

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Adam wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 13:32

That said, Skinner HAS to be better. The team completely hitched their wagon to him last summer when they didn't do anything else with the goaltending, and while I think that's a complete management fail, I don't know that I see a real option because if you put in Picard and he fails, well, you may have just broken the confidence of the only one who has a hope in hell of putting together a long enough hot streak to win a Cup.

This is why they have to go with Skinner (probably) in all circumstances. Management made him the started, sent Campbell down, didn't really test out Pickard, didn't try out Rodrigues, and didn't add anyone at the deadline just in case. Skinner is the guy come hell or high water.

I don't totally buy into the worst numbers in the cap era argument. The Oilers play a high risk / high reward game because of the offensive weapons and have... some questions on D. It's gong to have an impact on the goalie. He's got to be better, but this team simply isn't going to win a series while giving up 6 goals.

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Re: Review: Los Angeles @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #832510 is a reply to message #832477 ]	Thu, 25 April 2024 15:12

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NetBOG wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 22:13

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 24 April 2024 23:08

Classic Nurse.

It was the other D-man having a shoving match at the redline when the goal went in that was the issue.

I think I saw something different.. The LA d-man shot the puck up from the LA zone to Byfield at center ice.. Ceci had Byfield checked.. puck deflects off Byfield.. Nurse is asleep at the wheel (great band!) .. he has initial position on Kopitar and should be able to check him .. but is caught flat footed (?) due to (IMHO) lack of situational awareness, and too slow to react, which is a problem of his (my complaint) .. maybe he has a mechanical weakness pivoting to his right (?) .. but he's one of the Oilers top 2 shutdown D-men.. can't happen.. so often.. One (1) mistake can cost you a playoff series.. and a Stanley Cup (ask Steve Smith! .. although Fuhr should've had it!) .. Nurse.. as with everyone else, has to play mistake free, along with highest level of situational awareness, in order to progress through to the Cup final.. they all need to be much better.

after his "pivot " Nurse has now moved further away from Kopitar (towards the viewer) than when he was initially

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