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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 26 April 2024 13:14 |
I'm not going to respond after this because I see it as a waste of my time. Probably at least half the league has question marks in goal. So anytime anyone complains about the Oilers "not bolstering their goaltending" I start to question them if they are saying anything logical or just complaining to complain because I believe there are certain fans in this market that prefer just to complain about something. Probably PTSD from the past. There wasn't a ton of goalies available. Some of the pending UFA's got resigned by their teams. Others weren't even upgrades on what the Oilers had. Did I want Allen who in my opinion is not an upgrade on Skinner, debatable if he is better than Pickard and has another year on his contract. Hell freaking no!! I think spending assets on a goalie who isn't any better just swap out name bars to make some fans feel better would have been stupid.
Plus most of the evidence people use about Skinner are based on the 12 games he played last year as a rookie goalie. Was he great? No, was he awful? No. Generally, rookies in their first playoffs don't play their best hockey, it's even way more likely that a rookie goalie in his first playoff does well. I would think fans should probably give Skinner more than 2 games this year to decide if he can do it or not.
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I don't think it's fair to say that generally goalies don't do well in their first playoffs. Ken Dryden won a Cup as a rookie goalie. So did Patrick Roy. Hextall was a rookie when he took the Conn Smythe in 1987. Cam Ward was a rookie in 2006 when he took the Conn Smythe and the Stanley Cup. Andy Moog had just 7 NHL regular season games to his name when he swept the best-in-the-league Canadiens in 1981. More recently Matt Murray was a rookie when he won the Cup. Binnington had just 32 NHL appearances and never played a NHL playoff game before his Cup-winning season.
While there is definitely high pressure on a rookie goalie to backstop a contender through the playoffs, there's a lot of cases where players did just fine in rising to the occasion.
As for whether Skinner was awful last year, he got pulled in HALF the games in the second round, plus another game in the first round. He's been above .900 in only 5 of his 14 playoff appearances and there is literally not a single goalie in the entire salary cap era to play 14 or more playoff games and have as bad numbers on both GAA and Sv%. That's not just "not playing his best hockey". The absolute worst we've seen from Skinner has come in the post-season.
That's not to say he's a lost cause. He better not be, because the Oilers have firmly hitched their wagon to him. But we need him to be much, MUCH better to have a chance. And if he isn't able to rise to the occasion? Well, remember last summer when I said now would be a great chance to trade the Calder nominee and get someone better? You're not going to be able to get anything for him if he flames out a second time, and the team will have a major issue for the next GM, with two goalies who can't get the job done tying up over $6MM in cap space for the next couple of years.
The problem is that our margin of error here is pretty small. If we lose two years because we gambled twice on the same bad goalies, then we've potentially cost us Draisaitl and McDavid. If they were to leave? Then we're basically back to being the Buffalo Sabres again and we may as well promote the waterboy to general manager and bring back the ghost of Pat Quinn to coach.
[Updated on: Fri, 26 April 2024 14:40]
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