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 Jay
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Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
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| Goose wrote on Tue, 11 December 2018 09:12 |
I actually don't, no. Better? For sure. Significantly better? Not a chance. Of course partying until 5am doesn't help make you a better hockey player. But I dont buy any argument that better practice habits would have made Jordan Eberle into Sidney Crosby, and that's basically what would have needed to happen for the Oulers to not be awful.
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Eberle doesn't need to become Crosby to make a difference. If he and other members of "THE CORE" are committed to a healthy lifestyle and not drinking all night that makes them better players. It just does. If they have a better attitude and approach to practice that makes it more likely that everyone is pulling in the same direction and the team is better. How much better? Maybe a little maybe a lot. But it doesn't really matter.
Ultimately there is nothing wrong with someone like Ference pointing this stuff out. Regardless of his contributions to the team he is still right about this.
Then we come to the real issue of why this culture has been allowed to become such a problem..
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In terms of assigning blame, I think management has to own all of this. If you want your players to be accountable to their team and to winning, then you do it by building a winning culture. Not by bringing in retread NHLers past their prime because they won a Cup at some point. But this team keeps making the same mistakes, which again, is how they wound up with Lucic.
Adam brought up KLowe's comments. MacT also came out and said that it was going to be another developmental year in 2015! As a player in your early 20's, how are you supposed to take that? Your GM just said he's not going to do anything to help your team get better except draft another high pick, but somehow you're supposed to treat every game like the Cup Final?
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No argument. This is where we agree. The fact this poisonous atmosphere has been allowed to go on for literally decades is 100% a management problem. And that IMO stems from Kevin Lowe.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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