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Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29) [message #724258 is a reply to message #724257 ]	Fri, 07 December 2018 11:59

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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 07 December 2018 11:51

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 07 December 2018 11:34

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 07 December 2018 11:00

Oscargasm wrote on Fri, 07 December 2018 09:25

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 07 December 2018 09:31

I am glad that Talbot played well last game or more correctly played like a good NHL goalie for a change. But in my opinion, I don't see how you can give Talbot the start because he hasn't earned it.

Before last game, he was credited with losing his last 5 startsin a row and actually if you look at his stats, it should have been lost his last 6 games in a row. He was the starter for the Colorado game on Nov 11 where he only played 25 mins, giving up 3 goals and got YANKED. Koskinen came in, played the remaining 35 mins, gave up 1 goal. The Oilers lost 4-1 and because Koskinen played more than half the game, he was unfairly credited with the loss. Excluding Tuesdayâs game, in Talbotâs 6 straight losses, he had .900, .806, .800, .906, .826, .857 save percentage. If Talbot wasnât their previous starter and had a 4.2 mill contract and he was a young back up goalie making league minimum, heâd be in the minors because of those numbers.

Overall, Talbot is 6-9,(should be 6-10) has a .892% and a 3.19 GA. Koskinen is 8-3(should be 8-2), .925% and a 2.23 GA, plus 2 shut outs. So 33 points better and almost a full goal a game better than Talbot. I looked up the overall starts, Koskinen is 8th in overall save percentage and 2nd in goals against. What message do you send Koskinen or YOUR TEAM if you start Talbot over Koskinen when 1 goalies has been superior and itâs not close.

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When it comes to my comment or any comment I make. I just want my team to win. That's it. I really don't care how or why they win, just win. When it comes to the goaltending. The numbers to me speak for themselves in my opinion. This shouldn't be about building up Talbot or increasing his trade value, it should be about winning games. If Talbot didn't want to lose his job, he should have played better.

Need a little patience. Goalies have bad runs. Teams can lose confidence in their goalie and play scared in front of them. McLellan has a horrid record of goalies cratering under him, he has no idea how to handle his goaltenders. He picks a guy and if they are decent he runs them into the ground, while the backup goes totally stale and finally gets played ice cold and fails as well. Did the same in SJ. Good news is, these things can be fixed, and if you want to create a stable environment for fixing that kind of stuff, we have a pretty solid coach right now to do it.

I would go with Koskinen for sure right now. But, I would also be working on trying to build Talbot back up at the same time, because chances are very good that Koskinen will eventually go on his own run of struggle, it's his first year in the NHL, that's expected. And if we can get Talbot's confidence back up, we could get through that without a hitch.

Talbot is a pretty talented goalie. This team has been allergic to trying to build back up talent that struggles, we like to just toss them away for bargain basement prices. Would be nice to see a guy build himself back up here for once, and not have to say he needed to hit rock bottom and get traded for peanuts before he could ever be good again.

I was a Talbot guy. I was advocating at the start of this season that I fully expected Talbot would have a bounce back year this season because he recognized how bad he was, supposedly trained more than usual AND he needs a new contract. More times than not, upcoming UFA's have really good seasons when needing a new deal. Talbot's bad run starting last year in game 2 and he was flat out bad for the majority of last season. He came in this year, was OK, not great in camp, he started off decent then went into the toilet for most of this season so far. I think I have been more than patient with Talbot. The team is far from perfect, the defense isn't great but you can't win without goaltending. The problems with Talbot last year and this year has been giving up bad goals and poor rebound control. Unless the expectation of a teams defense is to never give any team a shot on goal, I don't pin a ton of the goaltending woes of Talbot on the defense. Then I look at the numbers of the 2 goalies and when one guy is 33 points better and almost a full goal against better playing behind the same defense with the same coaches and the same system, I can't blame the defense.

Well, since Hitch got here, I would argue Talbot has gone 2/2 for NHL quality performances. And the team played like trash in front of him for long periods in both games. That 1st period last game was laughable, like the team was doing everything they possibly could to ensure Talbot failed statistically. Hitch was having none of it, he ripped the team and said they left Talbot out to dry. Kassian used the same line after the game, probably because it was screamed at him and everyone else in the 1st intermission.

Seems Hitch isn't gonna let this team off the hook and is starting Talbot today. Good. If Talbot has a weak game, so be it, but the goals against better not be because the team is completely mailing it in from the opening faceoff.

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Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: OilFans on Fri, 07 December 2018 03:00
Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: NetBOG on Fri, 07 December 2018 05:23
Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: GabbyDugan on Fri, 07 December 2018 06:22
Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 07 December 2018 08:31
Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: Oscargasm on Fri, 07 December 2018 09:25
Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 07 December 2018 11:00
Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 07 December 2018 11:34
Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 07 December 2018 11:51
Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 07 December 2018 11:59
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Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 07 December 2018 16:18
Re: Pregame: Minnesota @ Edmonton (Game #29)	By: Oscargasm on Fri, 07 December 2018 09:32
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