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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 24 March 2022 21:48

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I think its very hard to argue that 9.25M a year is NOT superstar money.

Nurse is slated to be 26th highest cap hit next year. Only 6 defensemen make more than him.




So far.

Here's the question. Forgetting pay, how many D would you rather have over Nurse? The top 20 non-Nurse D in my fantasy league are: Josi, Makar, Letang, Hedman, Ekblan, Trouba, Fox, Weegar, McAvoy, Carlson, Seider, Reilly, Toews, Gudas, Pietrangelo, Hughes, Krug, Faulk, Dobson, Andersson.

I think Nurse is a top 10 D. If he's overpaid, it's not by very much.


This is an interesting question, I've had fun putting the time thinking about this one and was surprised how fast the list grew.

Ignoring pay, age, contract length, and just looking at play I would trade Nurse straight up for these players:

No Brainers - 9
Josi
Makar
Fox
Hedman
McAvoy
Pietrangelo
Ekblad
Letang
Hamilton

Convincing Yes - 7
Heiskanen
Petry (trying to ignore a strange disappearance this season)
D. Toews
Ellis
Spurgeon
Theodore
Dahlin


Pretty Likely Yes - 8
Chabot
Carlson
Q. Hughes
Seider
Ekholm
Werenski
Weegar
Slavin

Take it or leave it
H. Lindholm
Rielly
Chychrun
S. Jones
Klingberg
Krug
Doughty

This twitter thread is a pretty good dive into Nurse.
https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1423708086670397444? lang=en

Nurse seems like he's kind of a one trick pony. All even strength offense. But even then, he's not really elite at it. Since 2018-19, he is only 38th in 5v5 P/60 (min 50GP). His defensive game at 5v5 has never been loved by analytics. He's realistically the 3rd best PP option on the Oilers right now...he cashed in on one nice season, the Oilers did not look at his body of work.

He's a good defenseman, but I have 24 guys that I think are better than him today. He's past the point where he's likely to improve. This could be a very very damaging contract going forward.


I’m not certain Nurse will ever earn his next contract, but your list suggests he’s the 25th best dman in a 32 team league. Sounds like a low end number 1 to me.


Low end (de facto) number one paid like a consistently elite number 1.


Until 2025 where his contract falls to the mean. I’m not a Nurse or Holland apologist, but his contract isn’t going to be bad unless something drastic happens. It’s also very unlikely it’ll ever be a good contract, much less a value contract.

All I am saying he is not the reason Edmonton gets in cap problems.



In 2025 when his cap hit is still 9.25?

No, his contract is not the reason Edmonton will be in Cap h-e-double hockey sticks. But it’s a contributing factor in it and a direct contributor to the possible departure of Yamo, JP and or Kane.


Draisaitl should have been re-upped at 7M. Contributing factor.


Draisaitl takes 7 results in Darnell seeing an extra Mil available and we’re talking about Darnell at 10.25.



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