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Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822446]	Mon, 01 May 2023 16:07

smyth260
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Vegas Golden Knights (P1) vs. Edmonton Oilers (P2)

All times in MT

Wed., May 3: Oilers at Golden Knights, 7:30 p.m.; ESPN, SN, CBC, TVAS

Sat., May 6: Oilers at Golden Knights, 5 p.m.; TNT, SN, CBC, TVAS

Mon., May 8: Golden Knights at Oilers, 6:30 p.m.; ESPN, SN, CBC, TVAS

Wed., May 10: Golden Knights at Oilers, 8 p.m.; ESPN, SN, CBC, TVAS

*Fri., May 12: Oilers at Golden Knights, TBD; TNT, SN, CBC, TVAS

*Sun. May 14: Golden Knights at Oilers, TBD; SN, CBC, TVAS

*Tue., May 16: Oilers at Golden Knights, TBD; TNT, SN, CBC, TVAS

* = If necessary

Season Head to Head

19/11/2022 | VGK 3 @ EDM 4 (OT)

14/1/2023 | EDM 4 @ VGK 3

25/3/2023 | VGK 4 @ EDM 3 (OT)

28/3/2023 | EDM 7 @ VGK 4

[Updated on: Tue, 02 May 2023 18:18]

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822452 is a reply to message #822446 ]	Mon, 01 May 2023 18:01

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Well, %#@$ the Knights and what they represent (re: Bettman's ongoing obsession with the U.S. market to the point where it has become ridiculous, including his repeated attempts to keep Arizona as a viable franchise instead of just moving or folding them). It goes without saying I want the Oil to win, especially if the Knights are in fact pulling the same LTIR BS with Stone that the Lightning did with Kucherov.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822461 is a reply to message #822452 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 08:20

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Going into the playoffs, I feared the Kings more than the Knights.

I think the Knights top 2 centers aren't as good as the Kings, especially defensively.
I don't think the Knights are an overly fast team.
I feel like the Knights play a style that plays more into the Oilers style. The Knights like to forecheck hard and if you can get the puck out quickly, you can catch them.
The Kings played a very defensive style and they were looking to key on McDavid. I don't think the Knights will do that.
Their PP isn't near as good as the Kings. Kings had a top 5 PP, the Knights were 18th.
I think the Kings had the more proven goalie. Korposalo has more experience, started games in the playoffs and showed he could get hot before. Brossoit is 30, still a back up and the mot games he's ever played in the NHL in 1 season is 24. I think there is a reason.

It will be a hard series but I think match up wise if the Oilers play to their capabilities, this is an easier match up than the Kings in my opinion. I like the fact the Oilers didn't come home and seem to be all business. Game was over Saturday night. They could have easily jumped on their charter, flew back to LA. Sure it would have been late but it's not a long trip and the time change isn't huge. Have Sunday off to sleep in and hang with the family. Do a light practice/skate Monday. Full practice Tuesday, them make the short flight to Vegas sometime Tuesday. Play Wednesday. They didn't do that. They stayed in LA to work and stay focused.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822463 is a reply to message #822446 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 09:07

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What is going on with the NHL and this schedule???

Bizarre to me that they haven't figured out the first four games yet.

At least we have a game time for tomorrow now. 7:30 PM MT. No word on Friday's time, or even what days Games 3 and 4 are played.

As regards the series, I really hope the Oilers are taking it a lot more seriously than a lot of Oilers fans are. This team won the Western Conference this year and they batted Winnipeg aside with ease. They're no slouches.

Yes, their goaltending is suboptimal, but in case Oilers fans haven't noticed, so is ours. Our defence hasn't been airtight, and the team's taking way more penalties than its drawing.

Desharnais still worries me a lot, especially in opposition buildings. He struggled with the aging Kopitar and with Victor Arvidsson - Eichel and Stone are a whole lot better. The coach just keeps going back to that well, so we have to hope he plays significantly better because the Kings knew when he was on the ice and intentionally took attack to his side of the ice again and again.

I believe the Oilers can win this series, but it's likely to be a battle. I hope they come to the rink believing it's going to be a difficult one, because otherwise we're going to dig ourselves a hole early again.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822464 is a reply to message #822463 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 09:33

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No idea, my brothers and I are planing a trip down for game 4. Making it very difficult. Thought for sure morning after the NJ moved on we’d have something.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822465 is a reply to message #822464 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 10:23

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Now they’re considering moving Game 2 to Saturday. The NHL is so Bush League.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822466 is a reply to message #822465 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 10:36

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I’d rather they take some time to consider what the best schedule would be rather than rushing out the first thing they think of. That being said there were only 16 second round possibilities so they could have generated some scenarios.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822468 is a reply to message #822466 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 11:45

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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 10:36

I’d rather they take some time to consider what the best schedule would be rather than rushing out the first thing they think of. That being said there were only 16 second round possibilities so they could have generated some scenarios.

And they've had a few days now where most of the matchups have been set. For the Knights, they've been guaranteed to be the home team for the second round since last Thursday. They know what is going on in the rinks. It's a little odd that we're now 5 days later and they're still monkeying around with this. I'm sure some of it is the networks asking for games at certain times - but I think the NHL needs to set better boundaries then and get the requests in fast.

It's a pain. I have Game 3 tickets, and I can't actually block out that time in my calendar yet because we don't even know what day it'll be. Annoying.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822476 is a reply to message #822468 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 13:32

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Sounds like the Panthers owner wants to play on Sunday because he's got a horse in the Derby on Saturday? Sportsnet wants a Canadian team for HNIC... sigh

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822477 is a reply to message #822476 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 14:57

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Suomalainen wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 13:32

Sounds like the Panthers owner wants to play on Sunday because he's got a horse in the Derby on Saturday? Sportsnet wants a Canadian team for HNIC... sigh

Sportsnet refunds all airfares and tickets of Oilers fans who have bought tickets for Friday, if they change the dates. Sorry, but changing dates this late isn't on. I understand sports are at the behest of TV firms and it's much the same anywhere, but the idea of changing this this late is a joke.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822472 is a reply to message #822446 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 12:47

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Oilers recall the following to the Black Ace squad.. good to get the experience to help wet the appetite over the summer

James Hamblin
Raphael Lavoie
Philip Kemp

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822478 is a reply to message #822446 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 15:06

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It's official - moved to saturday

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822479 is a reply to message #822478 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 16:14

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Actually, I don't mind this. Edm & Vegas as the ONLY Saturday night game ... even the Maple Leafs don't get their traditional HNIC Saturday for games 3 or 6!!

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822483 is a reply to message #822479 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 18:58

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We matched up and played them so well in regular season. It should be a fun series. They are a very tough team.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822537 is a reply to message #822479 ]	Wed, 03 May 2023 15:26

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Red Rage wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 16:14

Actually, I don't mind this. Edm & Vegas as the ONLY Saturday night game ... even the Maple Leafs don't get their traditional HNIC Saturday for games 3 or 6!!

I selfishly like the move. My goal this year was to watch playoffs in the pool, and this extra day might be what I need to get the pool running and heated up, lol.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822484 is a reply to message #822446 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 19:02

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The delay for game 2 might actually work out.. some injuries to hopefully heal up a bit better., Kane for sure, Janmark, Hyman, McDavid.. plus 97 and 29 get more time to recuperate after game 1.. therefore you can maybe use a little of the reserve tank in game 1 with less worry about game 2..

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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822485 is a reply to message #822484 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 20:06

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 19:02

The delay for game 2 might actually work out.. some injuries to hopefully heal up a bit better., Kane for sure, Janmark, Hyman, McDavid.. plus 97 and 29 get more time to recuperate after game 1.. therefore you can maybe use a little of the reserve tank in game 1 with less worry about game 2..

I'd argue the rest would help Mark Stone get back to 100% after his injury but he's been at 100% for probably 3 months already

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822486 is a reply to message #822485 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 20:17

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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 20:06

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 19:02

The delay for game 2 might actually work out.. some injuries to hopefully heal up a bit better., Kane for sure, Janmark, Hyman, McDavid.. plus 97 and 29 get more time to recuperate after game 1.. therefore you can maybe use a little of the reserve tank in game 1 with less worry about game 2..

I'd argue the rest would help Mark Stone get back to 100% after his injury but he's been at 100% for probably 3 months already

If it’s his back he is one bend over to tie his shoes away from a set back. Stone’s health will always be an uncertainty.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822487 is a reply to message #822485 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 20:40

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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 19:06

,,I'd argue the rest would help Mark Stone get back to 100% after his injury but he's been at 100% for probably 3 months already

Truth..

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822488 is a reply to message #822487 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 20:49

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 20:40

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 19:06

,,I'd argue the rest would help Mark Stone get back to 100% after his injury but he's been at 100% for probably 3 months already

Truth..

https://twitter.com/nielsontsn1260/status/165358282773116108 9?s=46&t=HQtDlZ6qbQ5vruh6LcsxTg

Maybe not going to get to a 100%. I’m familiar with that walk. His lower back has either tightened right up or he’s crapped his pants.

I’ve done both.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822489 is a reply to message #822488 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 21:08

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inverno76 wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 20:49

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 20:40

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 19:06

,,I'd argue the rest would help Mark Stone get back to 100% after his injury but he's been at 100% for probably 3 months already

Truth..

https://twitter.com/nielsontsn1260/status/165358282773116108 9?s=46&t=HQtDlZ6qbQ5vruh6LcsxTg

Maybe not going to get to a 100%. I’m familiar with that walk. His lower back has either tightened right up or he’s crapped his pants.

I’ve done both.

Karma if he sat out too long and could have used an extra month to ease back into playing at a high level with his full ice time.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822491 is a reply to message #822488 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 22:17

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inverno76 wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 19:49

.. Maybe not going to get to a 100%. I’m familiar with that walk. His lower back has either tightened right up or he’s crapped his pants.

I’ve done both.

GOLD!

Yeah I saw that clip on HNIC.. Oilers have to help him put it through a stress test tomorrow.

He had surgery for it so the herniation(s) should be gone.. might be something more complicated now.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822495 is a reply to message #822488 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 23:40

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inverno76 wrote on Tue, 02 May 2023 19:49

... I’m familiar with that walk. His lower back has either tightened right up or he’s crapped his pants.

I’ve done both.

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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822490 is a reply to message #822446 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 21:30

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This has got to be the Knights last chance to win. $89.5 million in cap next year with 9 roster players becoming free agents. Going to have to give away millions in contracts just to be compliant (or put $15 million on LTIR again).

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822496 is a reply to message #822446 ]	Tue, 02 May 2023 23:47

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They had Yomo mic'ed up last game pretty cool..

https://twitter.com/twoyamsinacoat/status/165346488597048115 3

[Updated on: Wed, 03 May 2023 03:35]

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822499 is a reply to message #822446 ]	Wed, 03 May 2023 05:32

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I think forwards is advantage Oilers. Our top forwards are demonstrably more productive than a group of Eichel, Stephenson, Marchessault, and gimp Stone.

Vegas has quite a defense. Pietrangelo is probably the best D from both teams. Bouchard and Theodore could be comparable. They have a solid 6 whereas we have a weak point in Desharnais.

We will need Skinner to outdo Brossoit/Hill/Quick. Seems like this could be the difference. I hope goalie coach Schwartz remembers the weak points in Brossoit’s game.

Cassidy will be a much tougher match than McLellan. Woodcroft has taken down McLellan and Sutter, two predictable and unadaptable coaches. I expect Vegas to have some much more pragmatic plans for us. Woodcroft will need to be sharp. I hope we go back to splitting Draisaitl and McDavid. I don’t think the last half of the LA series was our best half, despite the results.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822501 is a reply to message #822499 ]	Wed, 03 May 2023 08:06

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If Stone plays, I would put a stick in his back first shift.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822504 is a reply to message #822501 ]	Wed, 03 May 2023 09:01

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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 08:06

If Stone plays, I would put a stick in his back first shift.

Yeah, don't have to be too mean. Just some routine cross checks in the lower back, followed by congratulating him on his perfectly timed recovery.

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Re: Round 2: Oilers vs Golden Knights - Preview [message #822508 is a reply to message #822504 ]	Wed, 03 May 2023 09:47

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 09:01

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 08:06

If Stone plays, I would put a stick in his back first shift.

Yeah, don't have to be too mean. Just some routine cross checks in the lower back, followed by congratulating him on his perfectly timed recovery.

Just ask him to grab a can of soup from the back of the pantry.

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Poll [message #822512 is a reply to message #822446 ]	Wed, 03 May 2023 10:52

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Oilers vs Vegas[ 23 vote(s) ]

1. Oilers in 4 0 / 0%
2. Oilers in 5 9 / 39%
3. Oilers in 6 13 / 57%
4. Oilers in 7 1 / 4%
5. Vegas in 4 0 / 0%
6. Vegas in 5 0 / 0%
7. Vegas in 6 0 / 0%
8. Vegas in 7 0 / 0%

Testing for anti-Oilers lurkers :)

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Re: Poll [message #822517 is a reply to message #822512 ]	Wed, 03 May 2023 12:24

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Oilers in six. Let's win the series at home.

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Re: Poll [message #822532 is a reply to message #822517 ]	Wed, 03 May 2023 14:10

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CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 12:24

Oilers in six. Let's win the series at home.

We're also at home next Wednesday though...

I'm being superstitious and not doing the poll, but I think we can handle these guys. Hopefully we start with a bang tonight and don't continue our trend of digging the early hole for ourselves.

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Re: Poll [message #822534 is a reply to message #822512 ]	Wed, 03 May 2023 14:36

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 10:52

Testing for anti-Oilers lurkers :)

I can't ... I have my opinion on how long this will go, but to make a bold claim is not something I want to put out to the universe.

I am not superstitious, but I am a little 'stitious.

No bad juju from me.

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