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Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821802]	Sun, 23 April 2023 21:30

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821836 is a reply to message #821802 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:25

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821840 is a reply to message #821836 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:26

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Hyman!!!

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821841 is a reply to message #821836 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:26

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Great time for Hyman to get one, sigh...I'm going to go collapse into a heap now.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821842 is a reply to message #821802 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:27

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What happened to the Chicken Little's that magically appeared after the 1st?

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821849 is a reply to message #821842 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

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NetBOG wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 21:27

What happened to the Chicken Little's that magically appeared after the 1st?

Hopefully turned off the TV and missed an incredible game!

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821861 is a reply to message #821849 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:39

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MJ wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

NetBOG wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 21:27

What happened to the Chicken Little's that magically appeared after the 1st?

Hopefully turned off the TV and missed an incredible game!

Man there was just too much time left. I honestly didn't see this outcome after the poor showing in period one, but glad I stuck with it.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821844 is a reply to message #821802 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:27

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Up yours Will Ferrell!

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821878 is a reply to message #821844 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 23:57

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nullterm wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 21:27

Up yours Will Ferrell!

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821848 is a reply to message #821802 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

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Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821852 is a reply to message #821848 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:31

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g2k wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?

Has to be Campbell.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821857 is a reply to message #821852 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:37

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Jay wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:31

g2k wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?

Has to be Campbell.

I agree.

Stauff says no.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821859 is a reply to message #821852 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:39

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Jay wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 21:31

g2k wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?

Has to be Campbell.

Campbell’s scramble style might be a better fit against the Kings’ crash the crease attack. Keep him in.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821870 is a reply to message #821848 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:54

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g2k wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?

I'd go back to Skinner. Great for Campbell to get the win, but man - I don't know if I can take many more games with that rebound control.

Our worst game of the series, but somehow we pull out the win. Great to see. Now just put them to bed.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821872 is a reply to message #821870 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:57

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Adam wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:54

g2k wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?

Skinners rebounds have been brutal too no? I think we are in chaos mode with either guy right now.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821874 is a reply to message #821870 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 23:02

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Adam wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 21:54

g2k wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?

I would agree. It’s just chaos in front of the net with him. Tonight was no different but we happened to be on the good side of it.

What this game should cement:
- Desharnais shouldn’t see playoff ice anymore. We all like his story and fight but he’s not top 6 NHL defender.
- Leon and Connor should be split again. Like you said, our worst game of the series, and I think that had a lot to do with it.

Anyway, great resilience by the guys. Kane and Hyman got big goals and I hope they elevate.

Clean house or bust

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821876 is a reply to message #821874 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 23:41

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smyth260 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 23:02

Adam wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 21:54

g2k wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?

McDrai together is definitely not ideal. But with our wingers struggling, I get why it was tried. In the end, Hyman and Kane both scored their goals with McDavid and Drai out there sucking up the attention of opposition. 3-0 with McDrai together 5v5. 1 goal against with Nuge alone which he really had nothing to do with, Arvidsson making Desharnais a pylon (1 with Nuge and Drai together which was largely because Nurse had to chase a hit down in the neutral zone and left Broberg all alone).

Not a recipe for long term success, but lots going wrong in this series as we just patiently waited for the law of averages to bless us. Sometimes it would take a best of 9 or 11 for a series to go long enough for the hockey gods to feel like it's time to make things even, and reward banging your head against a wall with the same approach over and over.

[Updated on: Sun, 23 April 2023 23:57]

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821904 is a reply to message #821870 ]	Mon, 24 April 2023 09:13

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Adam wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:54

g2k wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:28

Ok

Who starts on Tuesday?

This is the right thought. You don't bail on your goaltender when he had a bad game. It's good Woody saw the situation and changed goalies, but glad he did.

As for rebound control one could argue Skinner was serving up home runes with his rebound control.

Go back to Skinner, watch him closely and adjust.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

Generally Disappointed.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821851 is a reply to message #821802 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:29

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Wingers coming up yuuuuge at evens. Keep it going. Guess it's Campbell time in game 5. Skinner been a bit shakey all playoffs. Might just not be his time yet and maybe a game to relax could do him good. Might see him as early as the 2nd period in game 5 lol

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821853 is a reply to message #821851 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:32

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Campbell likely starts. He was magnificent tonight

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821854 is a reply to message #821802 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:35

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Man alive. I didn't think this outcome was possible. After the 1st, I thought ok 2 periods left so stuck with it. Happy I did.

Jack Campbell has to be 1st star, wasn't a Rembrandt but holy cow he held them in it to allow the comeback.

Kane and Hyman score huge goals, gonna be a confidence boost for those guys, need em.

New life, get the next one.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821856 is a reply to message #821854 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:36

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K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:35

New life, get the next two.

This is the desired result for the series. Please, guys, make it so.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821862 is a reply to message #821856 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:41

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:36

K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:35

New life, get the next two.

This is the desired result for the series. Please, guys, make it so.

Yeah, it's nervous watching these. 2 massive blowout wins, lol.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821855 is a reply to message #821802 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:36

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Hope the boys are feeling like Hasek 2.0 can be beat now. Wonder he he still holds that best sav% all time in the playoffs record (min 12 games) still.

Hard to beat low, but got lots high tonight

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821858 is a reply to message #821855 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:38

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:36

Hope the boys are feeling like Hasek 2.0 can be beat now. Wonder he he still holds that best sav% all time in the playoffs record (min 12 games) still.

Hard to beat low, but got lots high tonight

The problem hasn't been beating him, it's been playing at ES and PP instead of spending a ton of time killing penalties. Hopefully, the Oil know how to deal with the officiating for the rest of this series (re: just assume they will call everything on you and adjust play accordingly).

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821863 is a reply to message #821858 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:41

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:38

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:36

Hope the boys are feeling like Hasek 2.0 can be beat now. Wonder he he still holds that best sav% all time in the playoffs record (min 12 games) still.

Hard to beat low, but got lots high tonight

His sav% in the series has been pretty nuts. We got loads of shots every game.and Korpse was just able to brag about having an all time great sav%, min 12 games lol, thanks SN.

But I think we shot way too much low on him and get into that mode where we aren't willing to just take a shot like Kane and Hyman did tonight. We think we need to find a way to create a wide open side to shoot at.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821865 is a reply to message #821863 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:45

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:41

Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:38

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:36

Hope the boys are feeling like Hasek 2.0 can be beat now. Wonder he he still holds that best sav% all time in the playoffs record (min 12 games) still.

Hard to beat low, but got lots high tonight

Yeah that Hyman goal was a pretty rough GA, under his arm I think. More shots, yes.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821866 is a reply to message #821865 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:46

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K.McC#24 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:45

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:41

Ragnarok73 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:38

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:36

Hope the boys are feeling like Hasek 2.0 can be beat now. Wonder he he still holds that best sav% all time in the playoffs record (min 12 games) still.

Hard to beat low, but got lots high tonight

Yeah that Hyman goal was a pretty rough GA, under his arm I think. More shots, yes.

Think that was a perfect armpit shot lol.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821868 is a reply to message #821866 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:52

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That was exciting. Despite only allowing 1 goal, Campbell was giving me fits. So scrambly.

And what’s up with the reporters in the rooms right after the game, win or lose? I thought they’d done away with that. Don’t recall having seen that in some time before these playoffs. It’s so awkward and useless.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821871 is a reply to message #821868 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:56

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Mike wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:52

Gotta ride the key saves king as far as he can go now.

Tough situation. I think we could all see Skinner was pretty tentative out there. Definitely looks overwhelmed by the pressure to me. Everyone wishes for a matt Murray or Bininington to just hit the ground running and not stop until they are lifting the cup. Not in the cards rn for Skinner. Maybe sitting on out let's him reset and he comes back stronger when we need him.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821873 is a reply to message #821871 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:58

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:56

Mike wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:52

Again - I disagree here. How do you build his confidence most? By throwing him back in next game. It's his net to lose and I don't think one game does that. Especially since the goals tonight weren't really his fault. Brutal save percentage, but I find it hard to blame him for the 3-0 start.

I do think he's been a little shaky in the series, but I just don't think we can go far with Campbell. It's just always an adventure with him, and it's too likely to burn us.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821875 is a reply to message #821873 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 23:06

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Adam wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:58

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:56

Mike wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:52

Maybe the hockey gods smile on a team just embracing chaos :). I feel like our trash defending of rushes is the key source of nearly all chaos in this series.

My personal opinion would be that Skinner has looked like a guy isn't able to get comfortable in this moment yet. I could see Woody bringing him back, respecting his regular season and also remembering what a mess campbell can be. But if he doesn't I don't think he would frame it like he failed. He's a rookie and looks uncomfortable, I think progressively more uncomfortable as the series has gone on. He'll have his chance again soon.

[Updated on: Sun, 23 April 2023 23:13]

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821896 is a reply to message #821873 ]	Mon, 24 April 2023 08:16

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Adam wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:58

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:56

Mike wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:52

It doesn't happen very often but I agree with Adam. The team has made Skinner the starter so you give the next start to the starter. He's your guy, you pulled him (which I think was the right call), you put him back in with the hopes he will be motivated and want to give his team a very good start for some redemption.

I put fault him on 2 of the first 3. First goal, terrible rebound. Could someone have done something differently? Probably but you can't drop a rebound where he did like that. You couldn't have picked a worst spot to leave that rebound and his rebounds all series haven't been good. Second goal, yes Desharnais was too aggressive and got walked but make a save. Arvidson didn't do anything, he just skated right at him and shot an unscreened on the ice shot that went right through the 5 hole. To me, he didn't look set or ready for it.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821860 is a reply to message #821855 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:39

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 22:36

Hope the boys are feeling like Hasek 2.0 can be beat now. Wonder he he still holds that best sav% all time in the playoffs record (min 12 games) still.

Hard to beat low, but got lots high tonight

Yeah everything high on that guy

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821864 is a reply to message #821802 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:44

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We extend Bouch yet?

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821867 is a reply to message #821864 ]	Sun, 23 April 2023 22:47

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 05:44

We extend Bouch yet?

We will!

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821879 is a reply to message #821864 ]	Mon, 24 April 2023 00:04

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 21:44

We extend Bouch yet?

Man I have to say I've been critical of Bouchard all year.. and most of last.. but its like he's had a switch turned on since the trade for Ekholm and the replacement of Barrie.. totally different player.. a transformation.. like he's had a mind meld with Ekholm.. carries the puck up the ice with a flair of authority.. and he's way more mobile on the PP than he's ever been previously.. he makes the PP way more lethal.. Looks like he's starting to fulfill his draft prophecy .. big thumbs up.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821880 is a reply to message #821879 ]	Mon, 24 April 2023 00:10

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 00:04

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 23 April 2023 21:44

We extend Bouch yet?

He looked shaky as heck the first couple games on the PP. I feel like with players that had all their Jr career about creating offense that sometimes all their confidence will come from finally getting some offensive opportunity. Nurse would suck up all the McDavid time 5v5, and Barrie would be glued to the PP no matter what. Bouch had to get some actual offensive time to finally find his NHL game, and it's happening in a hurry now. The PP confidence came first, then he's suddenly a wizard making plays with the puck 5v5 and making all kinds of nice passes for the transition.

Ekholm helps too for sure, but I think also just having a decent D partner that isn't slow as heck and/or unpredictable helps. He had over the hill Keith that would leave him out to dry all the time, a struggling Kulak, and Broberg (which ended up being his best partner to that point) before Ekholm.

Extend this man! We successfully suppressed the Bouch for a long time, and we forgot to actually take advantage of it with an extension!

[Updated on: Mon, 24 April 2023 00:13]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821881 is a reply to message #821880 ]	Mon, 24 April 2023 00:16

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Need to watch the game in a bit, was quite violently ill over night, no way I could get up and watch the match. Seen the highlights, but I was asking for some devine inspiration at the end of the 1st period highlights.

If anything we shown we can score 5v5 in the series and in OT..

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #4) [message #821883 is a reply to message #821881 ]	Mon, 24 April 2023 00:20

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Leia wrote on Mon, 24 April 2023 00:16

Hope this game takes away some of the sick feeling :)

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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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