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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| g2k wrote on Fri, 10 November 2023 11:55 |
| smyth260 wrote on Fri, 10 November 2023 11:29 |
Oilers reddit is still very much “Ken has improved the team every year…He’s not that bad much better than Chiarelli…why replace him mid-season when he will be finished at the end of the year anyway”
It’s crazy how the media has groomed this city for incompetence. Like I am frequently upset that Ken Holland’s Oilers have never won a division with McDavid, never a top 5 finish. I feel like only Oilfans and some voices on twitter understand how many managerial problems have been covered up by 29/97.
At least in Vancouver and Toronto when they don’t like what they see, they let it be known loudly and collectively. Fans chanted Ron Wilson and Mike Gillis out of jobs. Vancouver fans cheered on Boudreau when he had to fall on the sword last year. Such different markets compared to Edmonton, who really just goes along with whatever the MSM pushes. It’s never management’s fault here. Management is good enough, as if we just want to watch a hockey team that is good enough and nothing more.
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Even if the damage is already done in regard to firing Holland, you would think it would be optically favourable to let paying customers and fans know you mean business. But not with this organization. Because they truly don’t mean business. They have not been serious enough since the ownership change. They have squandered a small Haitian army of high draft picks with a cavalier buddy system management model and created a culture of low accountability from the ownership down to the plugs.
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CrusaderPi's said it multiple times - Throughout the entire the Kevin Lowe-era, (which I'd argue we're still at the tail end of even though he's now no longer on the website - so maybe he truly has stepped away?) the team hasn't been serious about winning or competing. Maybe 2006 is the anomaly there, but other than that, they've always put other things ahead of winning - whether it's settling scores (Comrie comes to mind), giving buddies and family a nice place to work (Coffey now IS on the website), protecting and insulating the management from criticism, or just rewarding people who they think are nice (Gryba buyout, Smyth "coaching" job, etc.)
Holland is a lame duck here. He's ancient, the money's already spent on him, and he's not coming back next year. His fingerprints are ALL OVER this failure. He was the absolute wrong hire when they got him, and in the time since about 80% of his moves have been poor. Anything good that has happened with the team in his tenure come from the great players we have on the roster, especially the ones not acquired by Ken Holland. He spent MOST of his contract trying to convince the fans that they shouldn't expect a winner, rather than actually building one.
And we're at the point where the only managerial routes out of the morass require cap creativity and some great trades. Holland doesn't believe in using loopholes and he has actually said that you can't win trades. That is NOT the man to get us out of this spot.
Honestly, it's almost symbolic to flush him, but it's so completely deserved that it should be the first move the Oilers make now.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
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