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2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #849999]	Tue, 03 February 2026 17:54

Skookum Jim
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Stauff on ON just intimated that there might be a Leaf in tonight's game that could be on the Oilers soon after the Olympic trade freeze.. I'm guessing its Bobby McMann.. big .. fast.. has some skill.. low low cap.. $1.35M .. UFA end of season. 29 yo

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850038 is a reply to message #849999 ]	Tue, 03 February 2026 21:42

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After seeing McMann I don't see him as a needle mover.. no better than a Kapanen..

If they get him it better be for cheap.

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850040 is a reply to message #850038 ]	Tue, 03 February 2026 21:50

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 03 February 2026 21:42

After seeing McMann I don't see him as a needle mover.. no better than a Kapanen..

If they get him it better be for cheap.

Price just pumped up tonight. And value of the Mangy boy even lower. Sigh.

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850104 is a reply to message #850040 ]	Thu, 05 February 2026 13:57

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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 03 February 2026 21:50

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 03 February 2026 21:42

After seeing McMann I don't see him as a needle mover.. no better than a Kapanen..

If they get him it better be for cheap.

Price just pumped up tonight. And value of the Mangy boy even lower. Sigh.

He's having his best ever season, but at his age, is it a one-off? Is it because he's playing up roster in a depleted Toronto lineup?

He's big and he hits, and that's always something we're excited about here - I mean, that's why we said we were going to get Frederic. I'd prefer something a little more high impact, but I guess it's something.

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850119 is a reply to message #850104 ]	Fri, 06 February 2026 14:24

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Adam wrote on Thu, 05 February 2026 12:57

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 03 February 2026 21:50

Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 03 February 2026 21:42

After seeing McMann I don't see him as a needle mover.. no better than a Kapanen..

If they get him it better be for cheap.

Price just pumped up tonight. And value of the Mangy boy even lower. Sigh.

I think the difference with Fred and McMann is speed.. fred is a slow train.. McMann is quicker.. speed is everything.. unless you have skill and are on the PP where you retain possession.. biggest part of NHL is getting in the play.. carrying the puck, existing the zone, gaining the zone, forechecking, backchecking, PK'ing ..

With today's stats that are available its not just a eyeball thing anymore.. you can actually determine a guys relative speed to to the NHL peer group to a certain degree .. you can measure his speed(s) and compare to the NHL's different percentile's, and you can place him accordingly.. don't need to be a statistician..

Mangi and Fred are examples where they failed.. especially Fred.

That being said.. I don't know McMann's speed and his comparables.. but he didn't stand out to me last game.. although I did do a lot of FF'ing that game :)
At least Mcmann's cap is the right price.

UPDATE:

I checked McMann's speed to rest of the league.. I take it back.. he's No.3 behind McDavid at 24.25!
So maybe something IS there..

Here is the Oilers team ranked by top speed..
(all speeds in MPH)

League median speed is 22.13 mph

I cut off at 22 mph.. explains some of our problems with getting an effective forecheck, and PK pressure.. and even carrying the puck out of the zone..

Kapanen is a firewagon!

Fred is like in 20% of NHL

.. just to make you feel bad.. Broberg is 19th at 23.46 mph

And these stats explain the eyeball test on Walman this year.. he's a total slug.

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/k0qTBx8z6Pzb.png?o=1

Here is last year for comparison.. 20 mph cutoff..
some of the Oilers have very small sample sizes.. like 15 games for Walman.. 1 game for Fred.

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/c6ldv5NNC6M2.png?o=1

[Updated on: Fri, 06 February 2026 15:53]

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850172 is a reply to message #849999 ]	Sat, 14 February 2026 18:30

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Stauff letting it slip that the trade focus now is a top RHD.. good news that someone in Oiler management finally realized their obvious deficits.. but good luck with getting someone.. cost the farm.. should have thought about that before signing Walman to 7 x 8M .. plus Mangi .. and Fred..

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850402 is a reply to message #849999 ]	Fri, 27 February 2026 13:03

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https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /oilers-leafs-oliver-ekman-larsson-trade-dman-glut-friedman

Sweden had OEL on their team.. didn't look bad..
Interesting that EF says its a "buyers market" and that a glut D are available.. we shall see.. have no idea about OEL and how he plays these days, don't watch Leaf games.. but he's got to play better defence than 25.. ?

Quote:

Edmonton Oilers target top Toronto d-man, just there's a glut in d-man market, NHL insider says

This in from Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman, word that it’s likely a buyer’s market in the National Hockey League, that there’s a lot of d-men on the market, and that the Edmonton Oilers are interested in Toronto’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

On Edmonton and OEL, Friedman said on his 32 Thoughts podcast: “I do think the interest in Ekman Larsen is real. I do think Edmonton’s interest in Ekman Larsen is real. And I think it’s just going to be really interesting to see what happens with him in particular, because I do think they could do that if they wanted to.”

On the buyer’s market theory: “All of a sudden, there are more sellers than there are buyers. And some of these buyers are hoping that these sellers are going to panic.”

On the glut in d-men out there: “The thing that someone said to me though is, there’s a lot of D out there, a lot…. There’s a lot of D out there.”

[Updated on: Fri, 27 February 2026 13:12]

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850404 is a reply to message #850402 ]	Fri, 27 February 2026 13:06

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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 27 February 2026 13:03

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /oilers-leafs-oliver-ekman-larsson-trade-dman-glut-friedman

Quote:

Edmonton Oilers target top Toronto d-man, just there's a glut in d-man market, NHL insider says

This in from Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman, word that it’s likely a buyer’s market in the National Hockey League, that there’s a lot of d-men on the market, and that the Edmonton Oilers are interested in Toronto’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

Article content
On Edmonton and OEL, Friedman said on his 32 Thoughts podcast: “I do think the interest in Ekman Larsen is real. I do think Edmonton’s interest in Ekman Larsen is real. And I think it’s just going to be really interesting to see what happens with him in particular, because I do think they could do that if they wanted to.”

On the buyer’s market theory: “All of a sudden, there are more sellers than there are buyers. And some of these buyers are hoping that these sellers are going to panic.”

On the glut in d-men out there: “The thing that someone said to me though is, there’s a lot of D out there, a lot…. There’s a lot of D out there.”

After we trade guys at rock bottom value when they're playing their worse, or are now trying to get rid of guys at rock bottom value, it hurts a bit that we will be chasing after guys that are having lucky seasons and have their values at their highest in years. We could get fleeced again trying to get OEL.

Also hilarious that Bowman just gave a guy 7Mx7 to solidify our 2nd pair along with a 9.25M guy, and we are out trying to find a 2nd pair D to save us.

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850405 is a reply to message #850404 ]	Fri, 27 February 2026 13:11

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 February 2026 12:06

Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 27 February 2026 13:03

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /oilers-leafs-oliver-ekman-larsson-trade-dman-glut-friedman

Quote:

Edmonton Oilers target top Toronto d-man, just there's a glut in d-man market, NHL insider says

This in from Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman, word that it’s likely a buyer’s market in the National Hockey League, that there’s a lot of d-men on the market, and that the Edmonton Oilers are interested in Toronto’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

Article content
On Edmonton and OEL, Friedman said on his 32 Thoughts podcast: “I do think the interest in Ekman Larsen is real. I do think Edmonton’s interest in Ekman Larsen is real. And I think it’s just going to be really interesting to see what happens with him in particular, because I do think they could do that if they wanted to.”

On the buyer’s market theory: “All of a sudden, there are more sellers than there are buyers. And some of these buyers are hoping that these sellers are going to panic.”

On the glut in d-men out there: “The thing that someone said to me though is, there’s a lot of D out there, a lot…. There’s a lot of D out there.”

Yeah the 7x7 guy has looked like hot garbage this season.. but I got say his 2nd goal last night was pretty skilled.. 9.25 wasn't making that play.. 7x7 needs to back off on the cheeseburgers and get in shape.. he looks slower and more clumsy than last year

OEL has 2 more years at 3.5 .. and he's 34 right now.. he'll be 36 in his last year.. but have to think he'd be better than 25 .. ?

The fact the Swedes evaluated OEL high enough to take to Milan is at least one creditential..

[Updated on: Fri, 27 February 2026 13:26]

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850406 is a reply to message #850405 ]	Fri, 27 February 2026 13:15

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Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 27 February 2026 13:11

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 February 2026 12:06

Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 27 February 2026 13:03

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey /oilers-leafs-oliver-ekman-larsson-trade-dman-glut-friedman

Quote:

Edmonton Oilers target top Toronto d-man, just there's a glut in d-man market, NHL insider says

This in from Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman, word that it’s likely a buyer’s market in the National Hockey League, that there’s a lot of d-men on the market, and that the Edmonton Oilers are interested in Toronto’s Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

Article content
On Edmonton and OEL, Friedman said on his 32 Thoughts podcast: “I do think the interest in Ekman Larsen is real. I do think Edmonton’s interest in Ekman Larsen is real. And I think it’s just going to be really interesting to see what happens with him in particular, because I do think they could do that if they wanted to.”

On the buyer’s market theory: “All of a sudden, there are more sellers than there are buyers. And some of these buyers are hoping that these sellers are going to panic.”

On the glut in d-men out there: “The thing that someone said to me though is, there’s a lot of D out there, a lot…. There’s a lot of D out there.”

Maybe there is hope Coffey was pushing the right buttons with Walman to motivate him. We probably waited too long to bring Coffey back now to change what we think our needs are for the deadline though. Think we all do get that this team has looked like it needs another competent defender. If our D was actually playing like their paid to, we could be looking for more offense up front now instead :(

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Re: 2025 / 2026 Oil Trade Speculation [message #850407 is a reply to message #850406 ]	Fri, 27 February 2026 13:28

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 27 February 2026 12:15

.. Maybe there is hope Coffey was pushing the right buttons with Walman to motivate him. We probably waited too long to bring Coffey back now to change what we think our needs are for the deadline though. Think we all do get that this team has looked like it needs another competent defender. If our D was actually playing like their paid to, we could be looking for more offense up front now instead :(

I think if we can find a D-man to play with 7x7 that can drop 25 down to 6th (or 7th!) D-man.. we get a win.

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