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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 November 2023 11:51 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 07 November 2023 11:39 |
CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 November 2023 11:25 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 07 November 2023 10:54 |
Why can't you play someone else in Bouchards spots for a couple of shifts to get the message across? We aren't talking scratching him for games, a couple of shifts. Take Bouchard off the PP for a couple of times. Ekholm scored a PP goal last night. Nurse has done it in the past. It's not like they are completely void of anyone on the team that can't pass or shoot the puck for a PP or 2 here.
Go down the list. If Nurse or Nuge or Leon or McD, Hyman, Kane, who McLeod who whoever tanks a play. Then sit them for a couple of shifts. They talk about not playing to their standard. They are playing to their standard. Their standard right now is to play like crap, trying is optional, defensive is optional and if you make a mistake, out you go next shift. Then stand in front of the media and complain about not playing the right way, needing to be better, etc, etc. Rinse and repeat. Then go blame the #6/7 dman who barely plays or the 11th forward who barely plays and rip him for being lousy when Bouchard, Nuge, McD, Leon, etc are the ones making all the mistakes.
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At the point in the game where Bouchard made that mistake there were only a handful of shifts left. I agree with you on the PP, sit him for that. Ekholm and Nurse can do PP1 work in the short term. On even strength though? I don't think you can give up the puck moving. Ekholm is fine, Nurse has proven he can't do it well enough. The other guys might as well use wooden sticks.
And again, Woody is trying not to get fired here. He absolutely needs the offense to outscore the problems. The situation isn't ideal for a principled stand.
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That idiotic mistakes isn't a new mistake he's done AND it was extremely costly. It took the game from 3-2 to 4-2 when it didn't have to happen. Being down only 1 is WAY different than 2.
So when is a good time to bench a guy then to try and get the point across that he can't keep doing that stuff, it's costing the team big time? If the Oilers happen to be up in the score against the Sharks, do you expect Woody to say "hey Bouch, remember that screw up 3 days ago, now I am going to bench you for it'?
I get what you are saying but a big part of the problem the Oilers have is they making very costly mistakes, they keep repeating them and they tend to be the same guys who unfortunately are key players. There are other issues but if they could clean up the self inflicted, very correctable wounds, that would help but clearly pointing it out on video after, isn't working. So when is a good time to do something else?
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From owner on down to the last player on the roster.
"a big part of the problem the Oilers have is they making very costly mistakes, they keep repeating them and they tend to be the same guys"
Expecting a coach you're about to fire to bench his only puck moving option on the back end when the need to score goals is absurd. The hard truth is Holland left Bouchard with no options if anything went wrong this season. So when things went wrong you and I are left watching a team that can't do anything about it. Which might be the best argument for firing Woodcroft. At least the new guy won't have to worry about being fired.
Editing to add: I also don't think benching Bouchard changes how he plays all that much. He's going to be who he's going to be. It's the same as expecting Nurse to be smarter or McLeod to be more aggressive or Puljujarvi to be normal.
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I'll put it another way. If Bouchard takes a shot off the foot and he goes down the tunnel for a part of a period to shake it off, does that mean the Oilers should call over the ref and forfeit? What is the difference? Teams will lose a player for short spurts all the time and somehow survive. I am sure the Oilers would survive if Bouchard missed a couple of shifts to maybe get his attention that he has to spot the crap he's doing.
But we apparently will never agree. I don't see how benching Bouchard for a couple of shifts to get his attention is going to cripple the team for an entire game. Good gawd.
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