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 Adam
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This sounds official now:
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The Kulikov deal to Edmonton is getting done, pending a trade call. NJ gets a conditional 4th.
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Miller previously said that a passport issue was what was holding this up.
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RDOilerfan
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Anyone see what the condition is for the pick? I haven't found anything yet. Not that it's a big deal, just curious.
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CrudeRemarks
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 10:49 |
Anyone see what the condition is for the pick? I haven't found anything yet. Not that it's a big deal, just curious.
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becomes a 3rd if we win a playoff round.
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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Cup Crazy!!!!!!
I kid. Hopefully he solidifies the LD a bit. Jones/Lagesson were constantly getting walked and with Bear on the RD it created for a lot havoc.
It'd be nice for to grab a top 6 LW'er. We have been good fans all year. We deserve this.
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| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 10:51 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 10:49 |
Anyone see what the condition is for the pick? I haven't found anything yet. Not that it's a big deal, just curious.
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becomes a 3rd if we win a playoff round.
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Just to note, because of the shortened season, if we win 3 playoff games and lose, that still gets pro-rated as a won round to give up the 3rd.
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Offense wins games.
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| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 10:51 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 10:49 |
Anyone see what the condition is for the pick? I haven't found anything yet. Not that it's a big deal, just curious.
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becomes a 3rd if we win a playoff round.
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Pretty low cost for a guy who will play probably top 4 mins for you.
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I like this deal low risk, now bring me mike Hoffman
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mightyreasoner
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| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:18 |
I like this deal low risk, now bring me mike Hoffman
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Without his wife hopefully.
Seriously, Ottawa soured me on him. Let's go after Rakell instead.
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Adam
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:19 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:18 |
I like this deal low risk, now bring me mike Hoffman
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Without his wife hopefully.
Seriously, Ottawa soured me on him. Let's go after Rakell instead.
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Was he married? I thought it was just his girlfriend...
Either way, there may be baggage there, but he'd be here for a good time not a long time.
Rakell would have once been a guy I really was stoked to have here...I'm a little worried about what he is now. He's definitely declining and he has another year left on his deal.
All these imperfect options do seem to point to the fact the team should probably have done more to get the one piece that was available.
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:19 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:18 |
I like this deal low risk, now bring me mike Hoffman
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Without his wife hopefully.
Seriously, Ottawa soured me on him. Let's go after Rakell instead.
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Is Rakell even available? He's a really good player on an extremely cheap deal with another year left. What would the cost even be assuming the Ducks would even consider trading him?
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Kr55
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:22 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:19 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:18 |
I like this deal low risk, now bring me mike Hoffman
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Without his wife hopefully.
Seriously, Ottawa soured me on him. Let's go after Rakell instead.
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Is Rakell even available? He's a really good player on an extremely cheap deal with another year left. What would the cost even be assuming the Ducks would even consider trading him?
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Sounds like they're shopping Rakell and Josh Manson, but want a 1st round pick+ in a deal for either.
Hehe, funny seeing them shop Manson. They threw Shea Theodore away bending over backwards to keep Manson in the vegas draft.
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 14:27 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:22 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:19 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:18 |
I like this deal low risk, now bring me mike Hoffman
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Without his wife hopefully.
Seriously, Ottawa soured me on him. Let's go after Rakell instead.
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Is Rakell even available? He's a really good player on an extremely cheap deal with another year left. What would the cost even be assuming the Ducks would even consider trading him?
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Sounds like they're shopping Rakell and Josh Manson, but want a 1st round pick in a deal for either.
Hehe, funny seeing them shop Manson. They threw Shea Theodore away bending over backwards to keep Manson in the vegas draft.
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Reportedly the ask is a 1st rounder. Same for Manson. Edit: Oops, replied to wrong comment.
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RDOilerfan
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| NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:28 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 14:27 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:22 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:19 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:18 |
I like this deal low risk, now bring me mike Hoffman
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Without his wife hopefully.
Seriously, Ottawa soured me on him. Let's go after Rakell instead.
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Is Rakell even available? He's a really good player on an extremely cheap deal with another year left. What would the cost even be assuming the Ducks would even consider trading him?
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Sounds like they're shopping Rakell and Josh Manson, but want a 1st round pick in a deal for either.
Hehe, funny seeing them shop Manson. They threw Shea Theodore away bending over backwards to keep Manson in the vegas draft.
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Reportedly the ask is a 1st rounder. Same for Manson. Edit: Oops, replied to wrong comment.
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They might get a 1st for Rakell. Manson I don't see it. I thought for some reason he was younger but he will be 30 in Oct so what you see is what you get with him.
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Adam
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:27 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:22 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:19 |
| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 11:18 |
I like this deal low risk, now bring me mike Hoffman
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Without his wife hopefully.
Seriously, Ottawa soured me on him. Let's go after Rakell instead.
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Is Rakell even available? He's a really good player on an extremely cheap deal with another year left. What would the cost even be assuming the Ducks would even consider trading him?
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Sounds like they're shopping Rakell and Josh Manson, but want a 1st round pick+ in a deal for either.
Hehe, funny seeing them shop Manson. They threw Shea Theodore away bending over backwards to keep Manson in the vegas draft.
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It is funny the way the Ducks have gone there. They didn't want to lose Vatanen, Fowler, Manson or Lindholm. Kept Montour too. Pretty uneven performance from all of them since and Shea Theodore looks like a stud.
I do think that the Ducks are just accepting they're going to be awful for the next couple of years and have decided they're okay with that. I think it's one of the reasons these players are available and also one of the reasons that Dallas Eakins is still employed.
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So if the Oilers offer their first for either Hoffman/Rakell, no draft picks until the 6th round....for now.
I'd be reluctant to give a future division rival in the Ducks one more 1st round pick however.
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Adam
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| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 10:51 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 10:49 |
Anyone see what the condition is for the pick? I haven't found anything yet. Not that it's a big deal, just curious.
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becomes a 3rd if we win a playoff round.
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On the Oilers/Kulikov trade: The conditional 2022 4th round draft pick can turn into a 2022 3rd rounder if the Oilers make the second round of the 2021 Stanley Cup Playoffs
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I would want it to be next years first if they trade one
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Adam
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| sinfulchimp306 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:03 |
I would want it to be next years first if they trade one
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Could be 2023 first for that matter. I don't know if there's a lot left worth the first...it'll just make us look foolish if we give up more than Boston gave up for Hall now for some lesser player (unless James Neal goes the other way).
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Just saw that Kulikov was the #12 player on the TSN trade bait board. Only 1 guy higher was traded, Highmore.
So we DID make a splash. Double splash if we get player #14, Glendening.
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Underwhelming weekend to be an Oiler fan, having the dollar in, dollar out mantra shoved down our throats while other cap strapped teams make splashes.
Going to be one heck of an offseason though......................
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| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:29 |
Underwhelming weekend to be an Oiler fan, having the dollar in, dollar out mantra shoved down our throats while other cap strapped teams make splashes.
Going to be one heck of an offseason though......................
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Isn't that always the promise? Just wait - next year will be better!
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:37 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:29 |
Underwhelming weekend to be an Oiler fan, having the dollar in, dollar out mantra shoved down our throats while other cap strapped teams make splashes.
Going to be one heck of an offseason though......................
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Isn't that always the promise? Just wait - next year will be better!
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Ooooh just you wait till Connor’s last year of his current deal. THEN we’ll really go for it!
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:37 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:29 |
Underwhelming weekend to be an Oiler fan, having the dollar in, dollar out mantra shoved down our throats while other cap strapped teams make splashes.
Going to be one heck of an offseason though......................
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Isn't that always the promise? Just wait - next year will be better!
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Listening to Dustin Nielsen and the gang driving this morning on 1260. He is confident that McDrai will be even better next year. Seems like it's all on those guys to finally reach the goodness level needed for Holland to bet on them. I don't think this lineup will be changing that much this summer, so makes sense I guess. Good luck McDrai on taking that next step. Take that 1st and 2nd in scoring and up it to 0th and 1st.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:41 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:37 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:29 |
Underwhelming weekend to be an Oiler fan, having the dollar in, dollar out mantra shoved down our throats while other cap strapped teams make splashes.
Going to be one heck of an offseason though......................
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Isn't that always the promise? Just wait - next year will be better!
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Listening to Dustin Nielsen and the gang driving this morning on 1260. He is confident that McDrai will be even better next year. Seems like it's all on those guys to finally reach the goodness level needed for Holland to bet on them. I don't think this lineup will be changing that much this summer, so makes sense I guess. Good luck McDrai on taking that next step.
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Listened on my drive in to the first day of my new role. All pumped. Listening to Oilers radio on the drive in. Was a good time... till I remembered he and Rishaug are besties and both of the idea that our 2nd time making the playoffs in the McDavid era isn’t the time to go for it because just you wait till next year!!
You have THE best player in the game of hockey and arguably the best European player in the game, on your roster, for several years.
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Adam
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| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:41 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:37 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 12:29 |
Underwhelming weekend to be an Oiler fan, having the dollar in, dollar out mantra shoved down our throats while other cap strapped teams make splashes.
Going to be one heck of an offseason though......................
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Isn't that always the promise? Just wait - next year will be better!
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Ooooh just you wait till Connor’s last year of his current deal. THEN we’ll really go for it!
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You're right! He's probably just unmotivated now with his money all locked up longterm. I wish we'd done year to year with him now!
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Holland talking at 1:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC10xxLImMw
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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Adam
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At this point, all I'm hoping is that he doesn't actually say that the team isn't yet a contender in his speech...
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 13:18 |
At this point, all I'm hoping is that he doesn't actually say that the team isn't yet a contender in his speech...
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All media have been saying it for him. Is that enough? Probably needs to give some reason to try to appease fans. Guess he could blame Chia :)
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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Adam
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 13:22 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 13:18 |
At this point, all I'm hoping is that he doesn't actually say that the team isn't yet a contender in his speech...
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All media have been saying it for him. Is that enough? Probably needs to give some reason to try to appease fans. Guess he could blame Chia :)
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I think that the Oilers do like to go out of their way to try to keep fan expectations low. They're more concerned about it reflecting poorly on their performance as management if we flame out than they are about actually pushing the team to do anything.
Remember the story last year that the expectation levels were just too high going in to the playoffs? Or Chiarelli saying he didn't think they were ready in 2017 after he mostly sat on his hands in that trade deadline? Oilers management, led by Lowe, fears any kind of expectation of performance, because they haven't ever been held to account for their own poor performance.
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I’m picturing Holland hanging up the phone at 3pm MST, wiping his brow, and then looking up. There are all the other execs applauding him and they unveil a banner:
2021 Ken Holland “Kept his powder dry.”
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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| CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 13:28 |
I’m picturing Holland hanging up the phone at 3pm MST, wiping his brow, and then looking up. There are all the other execs applauding him and they unveil a banner:
2021 Ken Holland “Kept his powder dry.”
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"Well, we asked other GMs what they thought we should do. Many of them were quite complimentary of the job we've done so far, and most thought we really should stand pat. It's just not our turn to win yet this year, but they tell me it's coming, it really is. Soon too I think.
It was funny how many of them asked me for Connor and Leon though."
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Holland delayed apparently. Is that due to the Mantha trade or is there something coming?
Nope, just Kulikov
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Adam
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Holland so far:
- not in on Hall
- never looked at getting creative to manage the cap
- never looked at impact forwards
- believed his biggest need was on defence, and addressed it with Kulikov
- says Koekkoek may be back in May (adding an extra LHD)
- wanted someone with size and experience who can add depth
- asked about having multiple holes in his roster, actually says the right thing and points out how well they've played lately.
- complains again about the cap restricting them - although again, he said earlier they didn't look at creativity
- blames trying and failing last year with trades as one of the reasons they couldn't do more this year
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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| K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 13:37 |
Holland delayed apparently. Is that due to the Mantha trade or is there something coming?
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It's on. No more trades.
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Well Oilers are done for the day.
This is the angriest I have been in some time. We clearly still have a management team that has very little skill, if that was in doubt.
5 million a year for Ken Holland. 5 million a year and the plan he came up with to win a Stanley Cup is to do it when Philip Broberg (or something) is ready. Two Art Ross winners on the team be damned, what this team really needs is MORE PATIENCE.
And you can't really blame the last guy when you spent 7 million on Turris, Chiasson, and Kassian.
Any success in Edmonton is going to have to be in spite of management.
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 13:40 |
Holland so far:
- not in on Hall
- never looked at getting creative to manage the cap
- never looked at impact forwards
- believed his biggest need was on defence, and addressed it with Kulikov
- says Koekkoek may be back in May (adding an extra LHD)
- wanted someone with size and experience who can add depth
- asked about having multiple holes in his roster, actually says the right thing and points out how well they've played lately.
- complains again about the cap restricting them - although again, he said earlier they didn't look at creativity
- blames trying and failing last year with trades as one of the reasons they couldn't do more this year
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It's draft and develop your way to victory with Kenny. Better hope our overripening prospects all pan out in the next couple years.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 13:40 |
| K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 13:37 |
Holland delayed apparently. Is that due to the Mantha trade or is there something coming?
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It's on. No more trades.
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Yup. Well didn't miss much working through this today, and catching up now. Kulikov will help, but.a yawner otherwise. I don't know if Kenny can be as creative as some of the other GMs have proven to be.
Holland admitting that what he did last year and how they didn't work out affected this year. Why yes, that's true, Kenny!
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 13:40 |
Holland so far:
- not in on Hall
- never looked at getting creative to manage the cap
- never looked at impact forwards
- believed his biggest need was on defence, and addressed it with Kulikov
- says Koekkoek may be back in May (adding an extra LHD)
- wanted someone with size and experience who can add depth
- asked about having multiple holes in his roster, actually says the right thing and points out how well they've played lately.
- complains again about the cap restricting them - although again, he said earlier they didn't look at creativity
- blames trying and failing last year with trades as one of the reasons they couldn't do more this year
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More here from him where he's wrecking his earlier answer:
- "you can't go all-in every year"
- Again talks about last year being a problem.
- Says maybe next year they'll be a buyer and try to make "bigger noise"
- Asked by Terry Jones about Klefbom - says the right thing - he doesn't know if he'll be able to play next year. Will talk to Klefbom in July. Says it's "too early to tell"
- Got the players to meet the rules for exposure to Seattle Kraken
- Says they have about $2MM left in cap space. Needed cap space for bringing back Slater Koekkoek when he's healthy. Unbelievable.
- Matheson keeps asking him about holes in his lineup. Holland failing to tell him to stuff it.
I really don't like that talk about not going all-in, and about them hoping next year they can make more noise. To me it sure sounded like he's signaling that they don't think this is the year - which is insanity.
The fact he said he didn't consider doing anything creative with regards to the cap? Just bonkers. Katz should fire this dinosaur and all his dinosaur friends.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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