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Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #67) [message #756797] |
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 Ragnarok73
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Alex Chiasson, OT hero. I can live with that.
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"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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JPro
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Well I was kinda wrong about them laying an egg. Praise be to Koski for that one!
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g2k
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Happy about the win, but feel so dirty about it I’m going for a shower.
How not to officiate a pro hockey game.
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Suomalainen
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I mentioned in the other thread that they probably didn't deserve that one - but on the flip side, I bet Flames fans are losing their damned minds right now, which is enjoyable to think about.
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Kr55
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| Suomalainen wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:13 |
I mentioned in the other thread that they probably didn't deserve that one - but on the flip side, I bet Flames fans are losing their damned minds right now, which is enjoyable to think about.
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That was a legit goalie steal by Koskinen. We really haven't had that many of those this season.
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- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Mike
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| JPro wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 00:12 |
Well I was kinda wrong about them laying an egg. Praise be to Koski for that one!
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Not really - I don’t think you were wrong. If not for Koskinen that would have been ugly before the end of the 1st. He was huge this game.
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PlusOne
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| JPro wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 22:12 |
Well I was kinda wrong about them laying an egg. Praise be to Koski for that one!
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Glass three quarters full you were kind right. They did lay an egg for most of the game but came away with 2 points.
Good teams find a way to win even when they play bad. They are winning me over that they are becoming a good team, might be over ripening at just the right time
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Kr55
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Beat our point total from last year. 15 games to go!
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Oscargasm
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Did no deserve that one. Someone buy Koski a beer.
I’m believing.
I also lost count of how many penalties were called each way... seemed like someone was always on the kill.
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Mike
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| g2k wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 00:12 |
Happy about the win, but feel so dirty about it I’m going for a shower.
How not to officiate a pro hockey game.
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Complete bush league officiating on both sides. Absolute garbage. I wish the would:
1) be consistent
2) stop “game managing” - if there is an infraction, call it. Don’t care if they’re already down 2 men and losing by 5.
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Adam
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:17 |
| g2k wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 00:12 |
Happy about the win, but feel so dirty about it I’m going for a shower.
How not to officiate a pro hockey game.
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Complete bush league officiating on both sides. Absolute garbage. I wish the would:
1) be consistent
2) stop “game managing” - if there is an infraction, call it. Don’t care if they’re already down 2 men and losing by 5.
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I still don't understand how they decided that 2006 standard wasn't worth keeping. It was an incredibly entertaining year with scoring significantly up...and then the NHL decided that actually they DID want obstruction and interference allowed...
The only reason it happens as much as it does is because the league is so inconsistent about calling it. It must be really frustrating when you are one of the few people who do get called for tugging on someone's arm or blocking them from going in to the corner...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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g2k
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:17 |
| g2k wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 00:12 |
Happy about the win, but feel so dirty about it I’m going for a shower.
How not to officiate a pro hockey game.
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Complete bush league officiating on both sides. Absolute garbage. I wish the would:
1) be consistent
2) stop “game managing” - if there is an infraction, call it. Don’t care if they’re already down 2 men and losing by 5.
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It’s a blurry line for me though.
I feel that was a trip (maybe) in the 1st period. In OT I don’t.
I guess you could say that’s inconsistent.
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Ragnarok73
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| g2k wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:12 |
Happy about the win, but feel so dirty about it I’m going for a shower.
How not to officiate a pro hockey game.
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As Oilers fans, we don’t have the luxury of feeling guilty over questionable calls that go the Oil way. My advice to you is to just enjoy it when it helps them win, especially when they are stuck in a tight playoff race... 
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
5-14-6-1
"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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Adam
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Nuge now up to 38th in the league in points. He's been fantastic lately.
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g2k
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| g2k wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:22 |
| Mike wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:17 |
| g2k wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 00:12 |
Happy about the win, but feel so dirty about it I’m going for a shower.
How not to officiate a pro hockey game.
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Complete bush league officiating on both sides. Absolute garbage. I wish the would:
1) be consistent
2) stop “game managing” - if there is an infraction, call it. Don’t care if they’re already down 2 men and losing by 5.
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It’s a blurry line for me though.
I feel that was a trip (maybe) in the 1st period. In OT I don’t.
I guess you could say that’s inconsistent.
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Retraction.
PVR told me it was much more of a scoring chance than I recalled.
Still a pretty weird game officiating wise.
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overdue
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They gave Chaisson first star * it was a great shot * but we all know it should have been Koski. Definite goalie steal with over 40 saves. Oilers looked flat and the stars were skating circles around them at times bit hey, a win is a win. Team looked tired. They'll be better next game.
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Adam
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| overdue wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:33 |
They gave Chaisson first star * it was a great shot * but we all know it should have been Koski. Definite goalie steal with over 40 saves. Oilers looked flat and the stars were skating circles around them at times bit hey, a win is a win. Team looked tired. They'll be better next game.
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Now the real test - can they beat the minnow in the Blackhawks? We did fall flat versus Anaheim not long ago...hopefully the team remembers the embarrassment of losing to Dallas Eakins...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Kr55
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Currently on pace to have the best PP% for a team since before the Oilers were in the NHL.
Nice.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Ragnarok73
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:35 |
| overdue wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:33 |
They gave Chaisson first star * it was a great shot * but we all know it should have been Koski. Definite goalie steal with over 40 saves. Oilers looked flat and the stars were skating circles around them at times bit hey, a win is a win. Team looked tired. They'll be better next game.
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Now the real test - can they beat the minnow in the Blackhawks? We did fall flat versus Anaheim not long ago...hopefully the team remembers the embarrassment of losing to Dallas Eakins...
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To be fair, the Ducks are in the thick of the playoff race too, so they had quite a bit to play for when the Oil stumbled against them...
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
5-14-6-1
"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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bigEfromGP
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:15 |
| JPro wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 00:12 |
Well I was kinda wrong about them laying an egg. Praise be to Koski for that one!
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Not really - I don’t think you were wrong. If not for Koskinen that would have been ugly before the end of the 1st. He was huge this game.
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Yeah I agree. Oilers were being outshot 27-9 at one point. Dallas played very heavy on the body especially on Draisaitl. Glad that they managed to win, also glad they got to experience what will likely be the game plan of the opponents in the playoffs.
Again, suspect officiating for both sides. As a fan I get irate, I can't imagine what the players think.
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It's hard to disagree that he has the ideal male body.
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kungpaobenji27
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Why did Nurse get all that PP time yet again?
Oh well...two PP goals and way to steal win while super fatigued.
GWG by Chiasson was great but that PK end of regulation was what really saved the day...besides Koski in the first period....
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Magnum
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| PlusOne wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 21:15 |
| JPro wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 22:12 |
Well I was kinda wrong about them laying an egg. Praise be to Koski for that one!
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Glass three quarters full you were kind right. They did lay an egg for most of the game but came away with 2 points.
Good teams find a way to win even when they play bad. They are winning me over that they are becoming a good team, might be over ripening at just the right time
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So is Chia actually a genius?
2015/2016 - This Kool-Aid tastes like McDavid flavoured Drain-O.
2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!
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welcometotheOC
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So you found your pants?
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Leia
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I'm not going to praise any individuals other than Koski, and I don't want to take away that he stole the game for us either. However, the whole team defence is working so well. The shots needed saving, but not many were AA grade scoring chances, and in part that was down to the way we got in the way and didn't let them have any space really. After years of watching us have not one or two, but way more moments in games where we leave players wide open, it's such a pleasure to watch us look so unlikely to let in soft goals.
I'm not sure in terms of the PK, but the Dallas commentary team stated that we'd have to allow to go 32 PP's without a goal to not be number 1 in the NHL. They highlighted that only 2 teams have ever gone through a season as number 1 on both PK and PP. Could we achieve that? I think so and what a turn around in performance that would be.
As for Koski, we all know he's overpaid, but after last season I was really worried with him in net, not so much this year. He stole that one for sure tonight and how he wasn't the first star I don't know, I was actually trying to think who would be the third star of the game as I felt both netminders were going to be 1 & 2.
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Suomalainen
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The Dallas broadcast crew mentioned that the Oilers could go 0 for their next 38 on the PP and still be in first place in the league. That's crazy
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Oscargasm
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| welcometotheOC wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 23:58 |
So you found your pants?
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I did.. they were in the corner of the room, behind the cat’s climbing/sleeping thing.
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OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
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Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
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Oscargasm
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| Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 08:18 |
The Dallas broadcast crew mentioned that the Oilers could go 0 for their next 38 on the PP and still be in first place in the league. That's crazy
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That’s insanity!!!
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Mike
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| Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 10:18 |
The Dallas broadcast crew mentioned that the Oilers could go 0 for their next 38 on the PP and still be in first place in the league. That's crazy
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Captain Obvious I know, but that's really the difference this year, the special teams. Blows me away that a team with McDavid and Draisaitl could be last in the league on the PP a few years ago. The bad PK of past years, fine, but the atrocious PP just never made sense to me.
THIS is more what I would expect.
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ziltoid
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Here's an interesting stat:
The Russells (K + P) have combined for 97GP - 0G - 13A - 13 Pts this season.
Nurse + Drai have combined 4G - 6A - 10 Pts in the last 2 games.
Nurse + McDavid have combined for 1G - 9A - 10 Pts in the last 2 games.
So, no matter who you rank ahead this season (McDavid or Drai), our worst FW and worst D are roughly equal, pts wise, to the last 2 games of production from our second best D and our second best FW.
Boston's lowest producing FW and D (min 40 GP) are Chara and Nordstrom, who combine for 110GP - 9G - 11A - 20 Pts
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RDOilerfan
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That was one of the worst officiated game I have seen in awhile. I even saw Mark Spector tweet about how bad it was. If Spec says anything remotely bad about the officials, then you know it's real bad.
Dallas is a good team, with 2 excellent goalies who play a suffocating style. The Oilers didn't have their A game that's for sure but Koskinen sure did. He stole them the game. The Oilers won against Nash because of their offense. They won last night because of their goalie. The goalie is part of the team too so you need him to win you a few games when you don't have it.
Nuge with another goal, has 20 on the year. He probably won't beat last years career high of 28 and 69 pts but he will get close. I hope the debate about where Nuge should play is over. He's a really good top 6 winger and a average to below average top 6 center. His 2 best season, he's played a significant amount of time on the wing. Leave him there.
A win is a win in my books. Whether your team wins it by pumping in a ton of goals or your goalie steals it, they all count the same in the standings. Good win. Keep it going!
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Adam
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| Mike wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 07:33 |
| Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 10:18 |
The Dallas broadcast crew mentioned that the Oilers could go 0 for their next 38 on the PP and still be in first place in the league. That's crazy
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Captain Obvious I know, but that's really the difference this year, the special teams. Blows me away that a team with McDavid and Draisaitl could be last in the league on the PP a few years ago. The bad PK of past years, fine, but the atrocious PP just never made sense to me.
THIS is more what I would expect.
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I think it's possible that Todd McLellan is a really bad coach. At bare minimum, he's one of the most over-rated coaches of all-time.
Basically, anything that the coach had direct responsibility for was a weakness during his tenure here. We were bad at special teams, the player deployment was curious at best, and often seemed more based on who the coach liked than who should get a shot. His communication was horrendous. There seemed to be no serious attempt to gameplan for opponents, even in the playoffs, and he was badly outcoached in 2017 by...checking notes...Randy Carlyle!?!
It's amazing what a difference capable coaching can make - especially when you have good players for them to coach.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 09:10 |
I think it's possible that Todd McLellan is a really bad coach. At bare minimum, he's one of the most over-rated coaches of all-time.
Basically, anything that the coach had direct responsibility for was a weakness during his tenure here. We were bad at special teams, the player deployment was curious at best, and often seemed more based on who the coach liked than who should get a shot. His communication was horrendous. There seemed to be no serious attempt to gameplan for opponents, even in the playoffs, and he was badly outcoached in 2017 by...checking notes...Randy Carlyle!?!
It's amazing what a difference capable coaching can make - especially when you have good players for them to coach.
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In retrospect, maybe I bought into the hype that Todd was the first decent coach, but the writing on the wall certainly showed he played favourites in what he felt would win us games, not how (as Adam puts it) who he should have played.
Tip, to his credit seems to be fairly even in how he treats his team, a few suspect defensive combos in my opinion but nothing that alarms me.
He also let's his associate / assistant coaches, coach.
The guys also talk to each other, guiding the younger guys how to do this and that, on the ice too, their jaws are always flapping. How long since you could see that? on the regular
It was a gutsy win last night, and they played with confidence as Koskinen I think shined last night (I was actually surprised to see this).
Well done game, and the team has a whole different feel to their game. They skate with purpose and skate like a team that should win.
Amazing turnaround.
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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Adam
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Amazing stat circulating on twitter on the top scorers (points per game) so far in 2020:
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NHL leaders in points per game since New Year’s Eve:
1) Draisaitl: 1.81
2) McDavid: 1.60
3) RNH: 1.46
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That's pretty solid. Now - if the depth guys could just get their act together, we could win the division...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Mike
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 14:18 |
Amazing stat circulating on twitter on the top scorers (points per game) so far in 2020:
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NHL leaders in points per game since New Year’s Eve:
1) Draisaitl: 1.81
2) McDavid: 1.60
3) RNH: 1.46
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That's pretty solid. Now - if the depth guys could just get their act together, we could win the division...
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Anthony Stewart just picked the Oilers over the Caps in the Stanley Cup Finals.
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Kr55
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 11:18 |
Amazing stat circulating on twitter on the top scorers (points per game) so far in 2020:
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NHL leaders in points per game since New Year’s Eve:
1) Draisaitl: 1.81
2) McDavid: 1.60
3) RNH: 1.46
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That's pretty solid. Now - if the depth guys could just get their act together, we could win the division...
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Dang. Been waiting for a 2 line team since the 2017 playoffs. I really hope we can stay healthy now. If AA hits his stride to solidify the top line, we would have some decent pieces that could maybe make a useful 3rd line. Would be up to wingers to drive a line. Neal looked decent last night.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Adam
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| Mike wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 11:36 |
| Adam wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 14:18 |
Amazing stat circulating on twitter on the top scorers (points per game) so far in 2020:
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NHL leaders in points per game since New Year’s Eve:
1) Draisaitl: 1.81
2) McDavid: 1.60
3) RNH: 1.46
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That's pretty solid. Now - if the depth guys could just get their act together, we could win the division...
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Anthony Stewart just picked the Oilers over the Caps in the Stanley Cup Finals.
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Maybe Anthony Stewart hasn't noticed who we have for goalies, or realized that Bettman, Parros and the rest will be telling referees to stop calling all penalties in the playoffs...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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CrudeRemarks
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 09:10 |
| Mike wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 07:33 |
| Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 10:18 |
The Dallas broadcast crew mentioned that the Oilers could go 0 for their next 38 on the PP and still be in first place in the league. That's crazy
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Captain Obvious I know, but that's really the difference this year, the special teams. Blows me away that a team with McDavid and Draisaitl could be last in the league on the PP a few years ago. The bad PK of past years, fine, but the atrocious PP just never made sense to me.
THIS is more what I would expect.
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I think it's possible that Todd McLellan is a really bad coach. At bare minimum, he's one of the most over-rated coaches of all-time.
Basically, anything that the coach had direct responsibility for was a weakness during his tenure here. We were bad at special teams, the player deployment was curious at best, and often seemed more based on who the coach liked than who should get a shot. His communication was horrendous. There seemed to be no serious attempt to gameplan for opponents, even in the playoffs, and he was badly outcoached in 2017 by...checking notes...Randy Carlyle!?!
It's amazing what a difference capable coaching can make - especially when you have good players for them to coach.
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Actually I believe Todd scapegoated jay woodcroft for the powerplay woes. Just think about how bad Eakins is, when Todd legitimately improved the team in spite of his own lack of coaching ability.
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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Ragnarok73
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 04 March 2020 12:02 |
Maybe Anthony Stewart hasn't noticed who we have for goalies, or realized that Bettman, Parros and the rest will be telling referees to stop calling all penalties in the playoffs...
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If Smith gets really hot during the playoffs and everyone on the Oilers D remains healthy, who knows how far they could go? This includes Klef returning to the line-up.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
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"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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RDOilerfan
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Registered: January 2016
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Here is a question, do people think this years roster is better than the 16-17 roster that got screwed out of the West finals?
16-17 the Oilers defense was:
Klef- Larsson
Sekera - Russell
Nurse - Benning
This year when healthy, their defense is probably
Klef-Larsson
Nurse - Bear
Jones/Russell - Green/Benning
I would argue that with more experience, more puck moving and a true left-right combos, this years defense is better than 16-17.
Forward wise, McDavid and Leon with more experience are clearly better than 16-17. I think Nuge is properly cast and is a better player now. I think Kassian is a better player now than he was. I think center wise, the 16-17 team had better bottom 6 centers but the Oilers are deeper on the wings with this team.
Goaltending, 16-17 Talbot was out of his mind that year so maybe there is a slight edge but they didn't have a back up in 16-17 and like I said, I think their defense overall is a lot better than 16-17.
So in my opinion with the emergence of Yamo, and the additions of Ennis and AA. Plus they have guys like Sheahan and Arch vs say Slep who wasn't ready back then and Caggulia. I think this teams Oilers is a mostly deeper forward group.
So overall, I think they are better than 16-17 team.
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