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That third period. Wowza.

If I can be negative about one thing... Athanasiou isn’t going to have many fans round here if he keeps this perimeter play up.



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Drai needs 21 points in 16 games now to match Kuch last season. Walk in the park.

Drai is also now a career >1PPG player now. Finally erasing the handicap of his 1st season :)

[Updated on: Mon, 02 March 2020 20:38]


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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:14

Did I win 100K???????


This was from the GDT thread, but this is a joke right? You weren’t the person that was drawn?

Answer us!



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Nashville (Game #66) [message #756664 is a reply to message #756663 ]
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WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:41

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:14

Did I win 100K???????


This was from the GDT thread, but this is a joke right? You weren’t the person that was drawn?

Answer us!


Someone named Paul Rogers was the score and win winner




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GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:48

WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:41

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:14

Did I win 100K???????


This was from the GDT thread, but this is a joke right? You weren’t the person that was drawn?

Answer us!


Someone named Paul Rogers was the score and win winner


Congrats to Mr. Rogers, whoever you are.

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WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:41

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:14

Did I win 100K???????


This was from the GDT thread, but this is a joke right? You weren’t the person that was drawn?

Answer us!


Of course not, who shops at Save-On?



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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:54

WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:41

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:14

Did I win 100K???????


This was from the GDT thread, but this is a joke right? You weren’t the person that was drawn?

Answer us!


Of course not, who shops at Save-On?


I just did today!




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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:34

Drai needs 21 points in 16 games now to match Kuch last season. Walk in the park.

Drai is also now a career >1PPG player now. Finally erasing the handicap of his 1st season :)


Hand him the Art Ross. The Richard is going to be in reach. As is the Hart, obviously.

Unbelievable, the quietest, most in the background 5 point night you'll ever see superstar McDavid get, because Leon pots 4 and gets a helper.

Speaking of PPG, Nuge might get there before this is over. Tied for 44th in league scoring, 42nd in PPG. On an absolute tear, and I wouldn't be shocked if that line and PP1 stay intact, he scares the top 20, having missed 6 games. PLEASE take a discount on the next contract and see this through.



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GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:48



Someone named Paul Rogers was the score and win winner


The dude from Bad Company??



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Leon Draisaitl shot 21.6% last year. He’s at 20.7% this year, and that’s with a league leading 14 times he’s hit iron.

Here’s the full list of players with 500+ minutes and a shooting % over 20% this year:

1. Pekka Rinne - 100%
2. Zach Hyman - 21.2%
3. Leon Draisaitl - 20.7%


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Draisaitl’s Sh% by season:
19yo: 4.1%
20yo: 14.3%
21yo: 16.9%
——
Signs massive contract and I (an idiot) argue that he’s never going to shoot 16.9% again.
——
22yo: 12.9%
23yo: 21.6%
24yo: 20.7%



Drai has been pretty good at shooting pucks for a while



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:49

GabbyDugan wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:48

WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:41

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:14

Did I win 100K???????


This was from the GDT thread, but this is a joke right? You weren’t the person that was drawn?

Answer us!


Someone named Paul Rogers was the score and win winner


Congrats to Mr. Rogers, whoever you are.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/l2QZVkuFCBXApK8Fi/source.gif

Sounds like a fake name to me.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:57

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:54

WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:41

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:14

Did I win 100K???????


This was from the GDT thread, but this is a joke right? You weren’t the person that was drawn?

Answer us!


Of course not, who shops at Save-On?


I just did today!




Damn look at money bags over here, flexing that he’s rich enough to shop at Save-On! Humble brag.




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WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 22:59

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:57

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:54

WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:41

NetBOG wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 20:14

Did I win 100K???????


This was from the GDT thread, but this is a joke right? You weren’t the person that was drawn?

Answer us!


Of course not, who shops at Save-On?


I just did today!




Damn look at money bags over here, flexing that he’s rich enough to shop at Save-On! Humble brag.




Maybe I'm just lazy, their location is so darn convenient.

I'm sure one day that convenience will be the end of me, but for now, I still have enough organs to sell to pay the credit card minimum payments for a while longer.



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And right now, the best player in the world is the second best player on the Oilers.
EDM is better than we thought. Maybe way better than we thought.



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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Nashville (Game #66) [message #756679 is a reply to message #756678 ]
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Thank god for the third period, I can wake myself up for 3am games, but not 1am games?? Missed the first period, was still a bit sleepy starting the second till a 14 second burst woke me up and I thought I was cursing the Oilers once more.

Even though we let in 3 goals in that second period, we looked in control of the game totally dominating the puck in there end. I was so impressed by the response after the time out. Last year and years gone by this team would have collapsed, mentally they seem a lot tougher.

As for the third, once we'd ran Rinne out of the net, we seem to let off the gas would have liked us to rack up a double figure scoreline, but it wasn't to be. As it's been said McDavid with 5 points isn't being mentioned at all. That's now 13 points in five games since coming back for McDavid, looks like he's trying to catch Leon, but Leon keeps scoring as well. He's now back up into second place and only 6 away from 100. Rightly Leon is getting the plaudits for his play, but how McDavid constantly returns from injuries and carries on scoring at the same level he did prior to the injuries I don't know.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 23:08

Maybe I'm just lazy, their location is so darn convenient.

I'm sure one day that convenience will be the end of me, but for now, I still have enough organs to sell to pay the credit card minimum payments for a while longer.


I was just messing with you, gf lives across the street from one so I've shopped there a few times as well.

And like someone else mentioned, count me as one of the ones that hated the Drai contract. I love eating crow.

Also I wanted Bennett over Drai. Thank God I'm not a GM.



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 07:20

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 23:08

Maybe I'm just lazy, their location is so darn convenient.

I'm sure one day that convenience will be the end of me, but for now, I still have enough organs to sell to pay the credit card minimum payments for a while longer.


I was just messing with you, gf lives across the street from one so I've shopped there a few times as well.

And like someone else mentioned, count me as one of the ones that hated the Drai contract. I love eating crow.

Also I wanted Bennett over Drai. Thank God I'm not a GM.


Still would argue there was a degree of flukiness in the pick. MacT wanted him because he thought he was the guy most likely to step right in the next season and be a #2C because of his "man strength". I'm not sure how much foresight they were actually putting into the pick, MacT just didn't want to have to find a #2C some other way. Turns out he really did need to get off his butt and get another C if he wasn't gonna throw the next season. But oh well, bonus fluke payoff came out of that, McDavid!!!!!!!!



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 02 March 2020 21:02

Dimitri Filipovic @DimFilipovic
Leon Draisaitl shot 21.6% last year. He’s at 20.7% this year, and that’s with a league leading 14 times he’s hit iron.

Here’s the full list of players with 500+ minutes and a shooting % over 20% this year:

1. Pekka Rinne - 100%
2. Zach Hyman - 21.2%
3. Leon Draisaitl - 20.7%


WheatNOil @WheatNOil
Draisaitl’s Sh% by season:
19yo: 4.1%
20yo: 14.3%
21yo: 16.9%
——
Signs massive contract and I (an idiot) argue that he’s never going to shoot 16.9% again.
——
22yo: 12.9%
23yo: 21.6%
24yo: 20.7%



Drai has been pretty good at shooting pucks for a while

I am sure glad that the Oilers didn't take some fans advice and draft Bennett. That supposedly overpayment of a contract is sure looking better and better by the day. Back to back 100+ pt seasons. Soon to be back to back 50 goal seasons. Most likely the art ross and probably the hart. All for 8.5 mill. Pretty value deal if you ask me.

It's especially cheap when you consider the current going rate for young stars.

Eichel makes 10 mill. Is having his best year and has 35 goals and 77 points. So trailing Leon by 8 goals and 30 pts as of right now.
Matthews, according to Leafs fans gods gift to hockey is making 11.634 mill he has 45 goals and 77 pts. Maybe and that's a big maybe he scores slightly more goals than Leon but he will trail Leon by 30+ pts easily.
Marner makes 10.89 mill and he has 15 goals and 64 pts.

The only things Chia did right was sign McDavid and Leon to their contracts.



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I was a little surprised that McDavid and Draisaitl only played 3 minutes and 34 seconds together in Nashville. So much happened in a good way when they were on the ice at the same time.

Kassian seems to have shaken off the rust from his forced absence. Yamamoto played like he never missed a beat.

And Nugent-Hopkins just rolls productively along.




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GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 09:28

I was a little surprised that McDavid and Draisaitl only played 3 minutes and 34 seconds together in Nashville. So much happened in a good way when they were on the ice at the same time.

Kassian seems to have shaken off the rust from his forced absence. Yamamoto played like he never missed a beat.

And Nugent-Hopkins just rolls productively along.


They really only get pp and post pk they’re out there together for a shift. They get the odd shift paired near the end of the period if a push is needed.

Tipp is handling them very well. He’s the best coach we’ve had in decades.



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Leia wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 00:00

Thank god for the third period, I can wake myself up for 3am games, but not 1am games?? Missed the first period, was still a bit sleepy starting the second till a 14 second burst woke me up and I thought I was cursing the Oilers once more.

Even though we let in 3 goals in that second period, we looked in control of the game totally dominating the puck in there end. I was so impressed by the response after the time out. Last year and years gone by this team would have collapsed, mentally they seem a lot tougher.

As for the third, once we'd ran Rinne out of the net, we seem to let off the gas would have liked us to rack up a double figure scoreline, but it wasn't to be. As it's been said McDavid with 5 points isn't being mentioned at all. That's now 13 points in five games since coming back for McDavid, looks like he's trying to catch Leon, but Leon keeps scoring as well. He's now back up into second place and only 6 away from 100. Rightly Leon is getting the plaudits for his play, but how McDavid constantly returns from injuries and carries on scoring at the same level he did prior to the injuries I don't know.

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You are mildly complaining that the Oilers after pumping in 8 goals, didn't keep it full throttle and go for 10?

McD and Leon ended up with only 18 mins and 17:57 respectively in ice time. Which means they basically sat their first and second lines for the last 10 mins of the 3rd which is why they "took their foot off the gas". At least for me, when you have a laugher of a game and you can with 100% no concern give McD and Leon rest time, you take it. For the betterment of the team long term, the Oilers need McD and Leon as rested and HEALTHY as possible for the playoffs. So I don't need to see McD or Leon being thrown out there every second or 3rd shift when you are up by 5 just to try for 10 goals and risk someone on the other team who's already embarrassed for getting their ass kicked that bad on home ice, get more upset the Oilers are trying to run it up and say give either of those 2 a cheap shot. No thanks.



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Nurse and Bear pairing seemed so bad last game, more might be on Bear for a couple of those.
Overall they bounced back after blowing the lead twice. Nice to see a swarm of goals, hopefully they keep this up.



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I cried about lack of even strength production last game against Winnipeg....only to have my prayers answered with 7 ES goals!!!


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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 12:18

I cried about lack of even strength production last game against Winnipeg....only to have my prayers answered with 7 ES goals!!!


If you want something new (although not that new) to complain about, it might be about depth scoring.

Here's the last 10 games:

vs Tampa - 3-1 L
- 29/93 in on only goal

vs Florida - 4-1W
- 93 - 2A, 29 1G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Nurse scored unassisted

vs Carolina - 4-3 OTW
- 29 - 2G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Archibald from Benson the one other

vs. Boston - 2-1 OTL
- 93 assists on only goal

vs. Minnesota - 5-3L
- 93 - 2G, 1A, 29 1G, 1A

vs. Los Angeles - 4-2 W
- 97 - 1-2-3, 29, 1-0-1, 93 1-0-1

vs. Anaheim - 4-3 OTL
- 97 0-3-3, 29 1-0-1, 93 0-1-1

vs. Vegas - 3-0 L
- blech

vs. Winnipeg - 3-2 W
97 - 0-2-2, 29 2-0-2, 93 1-2-3

vs. Nashville - 8-3 W
97 - 1-4-5, 29 4-1-5, 93 0-3-3

So in the last 10 games, the Oilers have gone 5-3-2, and scored 31 goals. Of those goals, the top three have been in on 29 of the 31 goals - and that's despite the fact that McDavid didn't play in half of those games.

The third and fourth lines (and second while we were without 97) have only accounted for a single goal in all that time.

We talked about this earlier in the season and there was a point where we had a bit better production, but the depth needs to be better. It's not like they've been air-tight for goals against!



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Adam wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:00

kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 12:18

I cried about lack of even strength production last game against Winnipeg....only to have my prayers answered with 7 ES goals!!!


If you want something new (although not that new) to complain about, it might be about depth scoring.

Here's the last 10 games:

vs Tampa - 3-1 L
- 29/93 in on only goal

vs Florida - 4-1W
- 93 - 2A, 29 1G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Nurse scored unassisted

vs Carolina - 4-3 OTW
- 29 - 2G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Archibald from Benson the one other

vs. Boston - 2-1 OTL
- 93 assists on only goal

vs. Minnesota - 5-3L
- 93 - 2G, 1A, 29 1G, 1A

vs. Los Angeles - 4-2 W
- 97 - 1-2-3, 29, 1-0-1, 93 1-0-1

vs. Anaheim - 4-3 OTL
- 97 0-3-3, 29 1-0-1, 93 0-1-1

vs. Vegas - 3-0 L
- blech

vs. Winnipeg - 3-2 W
97 - 0-2-2, 29 2-0-2, 93 1-2-3

vs. Nashville - 8-3 W
97 - 1-4-5, 29 4-1-5, 93 0-3-3

So in the last 10 games, the Oilers have gone 5-3-2, and scored 31 goals. Of those goals, the top three have been in on 29 of the 31 goals - and that's despite the fact that McDavid didn't play in half of those games.

The third and fourth lines (and second while we were without 97) have only accounted for a single goal in all that time.

We talked about this earlier in the season and there was a point where we had a bit better production, but the depth needs to be better. It's not like they've been air-tight for goals against!


Honestly wouldn't mind seeing Haas tried with some better wingers. Sheahan always gets the better of the leftovers, but he's just been brutal in all 3 zones 5v5 lately. Not sure why he deserves it.

Wouldn't expect that to solve our bottom 6 problems just like that of course, but worth a try still.



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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 12:18

I cried about lack of even strength production last game against Winnipeg....only to have my prayers answered with 7 ES goals!!!


If you want something new (although not that new) to complain about, it might be about depth scoring.

Here's the last 10 games:

vs Tampa - 3-1 L
- 29/93 in on only goal

vs Florida - 4-1W
- 93 - 2A, 29 1G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Nurse scored unassisted

vs Carolina - 4-3 OTW
- 29 - 2G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Archibald from Benson the one other

vs. Boston - 2-1 OTL
- 93 assists on only goal

vs. Minnesota - 5-3L
- 93 - 2G, 1A, 29 1G, 1A

vs. Los Angeles - 4-2 W
- 97 - 1-2-3, 29, 1-0-1, 93 1-0-1

vs. Anaheim - 4-3 OTL
- 97 0-3-3, 29 1-0-1, 93 0-1-1

vs. Vegas - 3-0 L
- blech

vs. Winnipeg - 3-2 W
97 - 0-2-2, 29 2-0-2, 93 1-2-3

vs. Nashville - 8-3 W
97 - 1-4-5, 29 4-1-5, 93 0-3-3

So in the last 10 games, the Oilers have gone 5-3-2, and scored 31 goals. Of those goals, the top three have been in on 29 of the 31 goals - and that's despite the fact that McDavid didn't play in half of those games.

The third and fourth lines (and second while we were without 97) have only accounted for a single goal in all that time.

We talked about this earlier in the season and there was a point where we had a bit better production, but the depth needs to be better. It's not like they've been air-tight for goals against!

In those 10 games, how healthy have the Oilers been? In the last 10 games, they have had:
Nygard hurt
Kassian suspended 7 games.
Neal was hurt,
McDavid was hurt.

McDavid isn't a bottom 6 guy but someone from the bottom 6 would have to move up to take a spot in the top 6. Same goes for Neal and for Kassian. So with all of the forwards other that are back, I will be interested to see what the bottom 6 does.

Gagner is a good guy and can be an OK bottom 6 guy.
P.Russell played the whole time and isn't an NHLer in my opinion.
Granlund spent time in the line up and isn't a full time NHLer anymore.
Benson I think is close but isn't quite ready there.
Cave played games and isn't an NHLer.

All of Kassian, Ennis, AA and Neal are upgrades on every one of the 5 guys I listed above. 2 of the guys in this list will be in the top 6, the other 2 play on your 3rd line probably which upgrades the top 6 in a big way.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:00

kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 12:18

I cried about lack of even strength production last game against Winnipeg....only to have my prayers answered with 7 ES goals!!!


If you want something new (although not that new) to complain about, it might be about depth scoring.

Here's the last 10 games:

vs Tampa - 3-1 L
- 29/93 in on only goal

vs Florida - 4-1W
- 93 - 2A, 29 1G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Nurse scored unassisted

vs Carolina - 4-3 OTW
- 29 - 2G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Archibald from Benson the one other

vs. Boston - 2-1 OTL
- 93 assists on only goal

vs. Minnesota - 5-3L
- 93 - 2G, 1A, 29 1G, 1A

vs. Los Angeles - 4-2 W
- 97 - 1-2-3, 29, 1-0-1, 93 1-0-1

vs. Anaheim - 4-3 OTL
- 97 0-3-3, 29 1-0-1, 93 0-1-1

vs. Vegas - 3-0 L
- blech

vs. Winnipeg - 3-2 W
97 - 0-2-2, 29 2-0-2, 93 1-2-3

vs. Nashville - 8-3 W
97 - 1-4-5, 29 4-1-5, 93 0-3-3

So in the last 10 games, the Oilers have gone 5-3-2, and scored 31 goals. Of those goals, the top three have been in on 29 of the 31 goals - and that's despite the fact that McDavid didn't play in half of those games.

The third and fourth lines (and second while we were without 97) have only accounted for a single goal in all that time.

We talked about this earlier in the season and there was a point where we had a bit better production, but the depth needs to be better. It's not like they've been air-tight for goals against!

None of this is surprising, unfortunately. Guys like Sheahan and Khaira have been dead-weight throughout most of this season. Perhaps the team can find some depth forwards in the coming offseason to push them right out of the line-up. Good thing is that at least there are 2 lines capable of producing, and the best line right now doesn't even have Connor on it.



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:25

Adam wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:00

kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 12:18

I cried about lack of even strength production last game against Winnipeg....only to have my prayers answered with 7 ES goals!!!


If you want something new (although not that new) to complain about, it might be about depth scoring.

Here's the last 10 games:

vs Tampa - 3-1 L
- 29/93 in on only goal

vs Florida - 4-1W
- 93 - 2A, 29 1G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Nurse scored unassisted

vs Carolina - 4-3 OTW
- 29 - 2G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Archibald from Benson the one other

vs. Boston - 2-1 OTL
- 93 assists on only goal

vs. Minnesota - 5-3L
- 93 - 2G, 1A, 29 1G, 1A

vs. Los Angeles - 4-2 W
- 97 - 1-2-3, 29, 1-0-1, 93 1-0-1

vs. Anaheim - 4-3 OTL
- 97 0-3-3, 29 1-0-1, 93 0-1-1

vs. Vegas - 3-0 L
- blech

vs. Winnipeg - 3-2 W
97 - 0-2-2, 29 2-0-2, 93 1-2-3

vs. Nashville - 8-3 W
97 - 1-4-5, 29 4-1-5, 93 0-3-3

So in the last 10 games, the Oilers have gone 5-3-2, and scored 31 goals. Of those goals, the top three have been in on 29 of the 31 goals - and that's despite the fact that McDavid didn't play in half of those games.

The third and fourth lines (and second while we were without 97) have only accounted for a single goal in all that time.

We talked about this earlier in the season and there was a point where we had a bit better production, but the depth needs to be better. It's not like they've been air-tight for goals against!

None of this is surprising, unfortunately. Guys like Sheahan and Khaira have been dead-weight throughout most of this season. Perhaps the team can find some depth forwards in the coming offseason to push them right out of the line-up. Good thing is that at least there are 2 lines capable of producing, and the best line right now doesn't even have Connor on it.

Ideally Sheahan is a 4th line center but I don't think he's terrible. I would think it's pretty hard to generate offense when you have P. Russell on your line as often as he did plus dead weight Khaira. Everyone stuck up for Nuge when he played center and blamed his lack of production as a center on his linemates. Well if you can make that excuse for Nuge, why not Sheahan. Sheahan is less of a player but still, you put a non NHLer on his wing as often as P.Russell played, I don't see how that helps with scoring.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:36

Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:25

Adam wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:00

kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 12:18

I cried about lack of even strength production last game against Winnipeg....only to have my prayers answered with 7 ES goals!!!


If you want something new (although not that new) to complain about, it might be about depth scoring.

Here's the last 10 games:

vs Tampa - 3-1 L
- 29/93 in on only goal

vs Florida - 4-1W
- 93 - 2A, 29 1G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Nurse scored unassisted

vs Carolina - 4-3 OTW
- 29 - 2G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Archibald from Benson the one other

vs. Boston - 2-1 OTL
- 93 assists on only goal

vs. Minnesota - 5-3L
- 93 - 2G, 1A, 29 1G, 1A

vs. Los Angeles - 4-2 W
- 97 - 1-2-3, 29, 1-0-1, 93 1-0-1

vs. Anaheim - 4-3 OTL
- 97 0-3-3, 29 1-0-1, 93 0-1-1

vs. Vegas - 3-0 L
- blech

vs. Winnipeg - 3-2 W
97 - 0-2-2, 29 2-0-2, 93 1-2-3

vs. Nashville - 8-3 W
97 - 1-4-5, 29 4-1-5, 93 0-3-3

So in the last 10 games, the Oilers have gone 5-3-2, and scored 31 goals. Of those goals, the top three have been in on 29 of the 31 goals - and that's despite the fact that McDavid didn't play in half of those games.

The third and fourth lines (and second while we were without 97) have only accounted for a single goal in all that time.

We talked about this earlier in the season and there was a point where we had a bit better production, but the depth needs to be better. It's not like they've been air-tight for goals against!

None of this is surprising, unfortunately. Guys like Sheahan and Khaira have been dead-weight throughout most of this season. Perhaps the team can find some depth forwards in the coming offseason to push them right out of the line-up. Good thing is that at least there are 2 lines capable of producing, and the best line right now doesn't even have Connor on it.

Ideally Sheahan is a 4th line center but I don't think he's terrible. I would think it's pretty hard to generate offense when you have P. Russell on your line as often as he did plus dead weight Khaira. Everyone stuck up for Nuge when he played center and blamed his lack of production as a center on his linemates. Well if you can make that excuse for Nuge, why not Sheahan. Sheahan is less of a player but still, you put a non NHLer on his wing as often as P.Russell played, I don't see how that helps with scoring.

JJ has looked snake-bitten. He's missed some grade A chances recently (and less recently!).



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CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:36

Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:25

Adam wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:00

kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 12:18

I cried about lack of even strength production last game against Winnipeg....only to have my prayers answered with 7 ES goals!!!


If you want something new (although not that new) to complain about, it might be about depth scoring.

Here's the last 10 games:

vs Tampa - 3-1 L
- 29/93 in on only goal

vs Florida - 4-1W
- 93 - 2A, 29 1G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Nurse scored unassisted

vs Carolina - 4-3 OTW
- 29 - 2G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Archibald from Benson the one other

vs. Boston - 2-1 OTL
- 93 assists on only goal

vs. Minnesota - 5-3L
- 93 - 2G, 1A, 29 1G, 1A

vs. Los Angeles - 4-2 W
- 97 - 1-2-3, 29, 1-0-1, 93 1-0-1

vs. Anaheim - 4-3 OTL
- 97 0-3-3, 29 1-0-1, 93 0-1-1

vs. Vegas - 3-0 L
- blech

vs. Winnipeg - 3-2 W
97 - 0-2-2, 29 2-0-2, 93 1-2-3

vs. Nashville - 8-3 W
97 - 1-4-5, 29 4-1-5, 93 0-3-3

So in the last 10 games, the Oilers have gone 5-3-2, and scored 31 goals. Of those goals, the top three have been in on 29 of the 31 goals - and that's despite the fact that McDavid didn't play in half of those games.

The third and fourth lines (and second while we were without 97) have only accounted for a single goal in all that time.

We talked about this earlier in the season and there was a point where we had a bit better production, but the depth needs to be better. It's not like they've been air-tight for goals against!

None of this is surprising, unfortunately. Guys like Sheahan and Khaira have been dead-weight throughout most of this season. Perhaps the team can find some depth forwards in the coming offseason to push them right out of the line-up. Good thing is that at least there are 2 lines capable of producing, and the best line right now doesn't even have Connor on it.

Ideally Sheahan is a 4th line center but I don't think he's terrible. I would think it's pretty hard to generate offense when you have P. Russell on your line as often as he did plus dead weight Khaira. Everyone stuck up for Nuge when he played center and blamed his lack of production as a center on his linemates. Well if you can make that excuse for Nuge, why not Sheahan. Sheahan is less of a player but still, you put a non NHLer on his wing as often as P.Russell played, I don't see how that helps with scoring.

JJ has looked snake-bitten. He's missed some grade A chances recently (and less recently!).

I do agree, he has looked better the last couple of games but how long does that last is my question? He shows short spurts where everyone thinks this guy is going to be a good player then goes into long stretches of being terrible. At some point he needs to at least cash in the odd one of those grade A chances and find a level of consistency. It appears he's nothing more than a 4th line which is fine. Be a good 4th liner. Skate hard, be physical, mix it up, bring energy, play a simple game. Get pucks in deep, grind the boards and finish your checks on top of chipping in on the PK. If he does that, he's fine.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:36

Ideally Sheahan is a 4th line center but I don't think he's terrible. I would think it's pretty hard to generate offense when you have P. Russell on your line as often as he did plus dead weight Khaira. Everyone stuck up for Nuge when he played center and blamed his lack of production as a center on his linemates. Well if you can make that excuse for Nuge, why not Sheahan. Sheahan is less of a player but still, you put a non NHLer on his wing as often as P.Russell played, I don't see how that helps with scoring.

I could deal with Sheahan's lack of scoring if his line also didn't cough up so many scoring chances and goals like they did last night. They are a black hole on offence, and they are terrible in their own end to boot. People can talk about how "good" Sheahan is on the PK, but frankly, I see that as more attributable to the coaching than to player talent, especially when we watch him cough up the puck so often in 5-on-5 play. What good is it to be helpful on the PK if you can't defend your own end at even strength? He's got to go after this season regardless of what happens.



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 14:25

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:36

Ideally Sheahan is a 4th line center but I don't think he's terrible. I would think it's pretty hard to generate offense when you have P. Russell on your line as often as he did plus dead weight Khaira. Everyone stuck up for Nuge when he played center and blamed his lack of production as a center on his linemates. Well if you can make that excuse for Nuge, why not Sheahan. Sheahan is less of a player but still, you put a non NHLer on his wing as often as P.Russell played, I don't see how that helps with scoring.

I could deal with Sheahan's lack of scoring if his line also didn't cough up so many scoring chances and goals like they did last night. They are a black hole on offence, and they are terrible in their own end to boot. People can talk about how "good" Sheahan is on the PK, but frankly, I see that as more attributable to the coaching than to player talent, especially when we watch him cough up the puck so often in 5-on-5 play. What good is it to be helpful on the PK if you can't defend your own end at even strength? He's got to go after this season regardless of what happens.

I agree but again does that not come down to talent? As I said, he had P. Russell on his wing a lot of nights. He's not an NHL player in my books. I am stunned he played as much as he did. Granlund was on his line. He had Benson on his line who wasn't ready. In consistent Khaira has played a bunch with him. I am not defending Sheahan, he's a 4th line center playing in the 3 hole but if you put crap players on his wing like he had a lot of the year, he's not good enough to overcome that. I think he and Arch are good together but the 2 of them can't overcome having a crap player like Russell on their other wing. He tries hard but doesn't do anything.

I am of the belief that the additions of Ennis and AA are HUGE to this team. Anytime you can take out a guy like Russell completely from your lines and either drop down or scratch a Khaira or a Chiasson, that improves your team a lot in my books.

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:36

Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:25

Adam wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:00

kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 12:18

I cried about lack of even strength production last game against Winnipeg....only to have my prayers answered with 7 ES goals!!!


If you want something new (although not that new) to complain about, it might be about depth scoring.

Here's the last 10 games:

vs Tampa - 3-1 L
- 29/93 in on only goal

vs Florida - 4-1W
- 93 - 2A, 29 1G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Nurse scored unassisted

vs Carolina - 4-3 OTW
- 29 - 2G, 1A in on 3 goals
- Archibald from Benson the one other

vs. Boston - 2-1 OTL
- 93 assists on only goal

vs. Minnesota - 5-3L
- 93 - 2G, 1A, 29 1G, 1A

vs. Los Angeles - 4-2 W
- 97 - 1-2-3, 29, 1-0-1, 93 1-0-1

vs. Anaheim - 4-3 OTL
- 97 0-3-3, 29 1-0-1, 93 0-1-1

vs. Vegas - 3-0 L
- blech

vs. Winnipeg - 3-2 W
97 - 0-2-2, 29 2-0-2, 93 1-2-3

vs. Nashville - 8-3 W
97 - 1-4-5, 29 4-1-5, 93 0-3-3

So in the last 10 games, the Oilers have gone 5-3-2, and scored 31 goals. Of those goals, the top three have been in on 29 of the 31 goals - and that's despite the fact that McDavid didn't play in half of those games.

The third and fourth lines (and second while we were without 97) have only accounted for a single goal in all that time.

We talked about this earlier in the season and there was a point where we had a bit better production, but the depth needs to be better. It's not like they've been air-tight for goals against!

None of this is surprising, unfortunately. Guys like Sheahan and Khaira have been dead-weight throughout most of this season. Perhaps the team can find some depth forwards in the coming offseason to push them right out of the line-up. Good thing is that at least there are 2 lines capable of producing, and the best line right now doesn't even have Connor on it.

Ideally Sheahan is a 4th line center but I don't think he's terrible. I would think it's pretty hard to generate offense when you have P. Russell on your line as often as he did plus dead weight Khaira. Everyone stuck up for Nuge when he played center and blamed his lack of production as a center on his linemates. Well if you can make that excuse for Nuge, why not Sheahan. Sheahan is less of a player but still, you put a non NHLer on his wing as often as P.Russell played, I don't see how that helps with scoring.

JJ has looked snake-bitten. He's missed some grade A chances recently (and less recently!).


Khaira may be one of the better ones of that group. He's not consistent, but that's a fourth liner for you - he can at least do something some of the time, and he can play both center or wing. He's not a bad 12th or 13th forward. The issue is that on the Oilers he's about #10 on the depth chart.

I saw a poll on twitter last night about who's more of an issue, Chiasson or Khaira. Khaira was winning, but when you factor in A) salary and B) powerplay time, I think Khaira's actually been better.

Chiasson's tallied 3-5-8 on the year at even strength. In almost identical time on the ice, but with less talented linemates, Khaira has scored 6-3-9. He's also been a big contributor on the penalty kill.

When you consider that he also makes $950K per year less than Chiasson, I don't think it's close. Yes, there's some PP production from Chiasson, but I don't think you lose that if you have Neal or Yamamoto in that spot instead. I think if Gagner had been given that push this year, even his numbers would have looked better on the PP.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 14:51

Ragnarok73 wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 14:25

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 03 March 2020 13:36

Ideally Sheahan is a 4th line center but I don't think he's terrible. I would think it's pretty hard to generate offense when you have P. Russell on your line as often as he did plus dead weight Khaira. Everyone stuck up for Nuge when he played center and blamed his lack of production as a center on his linemates. Well if you can make that excuse for Nuge, why not Sheahan. Sheahan is less of a player but still, you put a non NHLer on his wing as often as P.Russell played, I don't see how that helps with scoring.

I could deal with Sheahan's lack of scoring if his line also didn't cough up so many scoring chances and goals like they did last night. They are a black hole on offence, and they are terrible in their own end to boot. People can talk about how "good" Sheahan is on the PK, but frankly, I see that as more attributable to the coaching than to player talent, especially when we watch him cough up the puck so often in 5-on-5 play. What good is it to be helpful on the PK if you can't defend your own end at even strength? He's got to go after this season regardless of what happens.

I agree but again does that not come down to talent? As I said, he had P. Russell on his wing a lot of nights. He's not an NHL player in my books. I am stunned he played as much as he did. Granlund was on his line. He had Benson on his line who wasn't ready. In consistent Khaira has played a bunch with him. I am not defending Sheahan, he's a 4th line center playing in the 3 hole but if you put crap players on his wing like he had a lot of the year, he's not good enough to overcome that. I think he and Arch are good together but the 2 of them can't overcome having a crap player like Russell on their other wing. He tries hard but doesn't do anything.

I am of the belief that the additions of Ennis and AA are HUGE to this team. Anytime you can take out a guy like Russell completely from your lines and either drop down or scratch a Khaira or a Chiasson, that improves your team a lot in my books.



FWIW, I think Benson with Archibald & Sheahan was the best the third line has looked in the last month. I would be strongly considering bringing him back up if we weren't looking at adding a couple of players back from injury shortly. It would still be on my mind if the team can't get a bit more out of that black hole of a fourth line.

Bakersfield looks unlikely to make the playoffs in the AHL, so it would not surprise me in the least if Benson ends up a roster player in the playoffs this year.



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Amazing video on Draisaitl's fourth goal against Nashville. Every detail of this video is great.




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Adam wrote on Fri, 06 March 2020 15:01

Amazing video on Draisaitl's fourth goal against Nashville. Every detail of this video is great.


That's a cool video about a way of seeing the power play I would have never even considered.



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