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 Andreas Athanasiou! [message #755587]
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The Oilers got him!!

Per TSN Radio and a guy named Gord from TSN!

Apparently it's for Gagner! Cap management!

Two second round picks.

From the Oilers:
The #Oilers have acquired forwards Andreas Athanasiou & Ryan Kuffner from the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for forward Sam Gagner & two second-round draft picks (2020 & 2021). In addition, Edmonton will retain 10% of Gagner's salary.



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I would like to know more!


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Commie called it!

AA is still RFA after this year, 1 RFA year left.



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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:13

I would like to know more!

https://twitter.com/GoalpostRadio/status/1232005575271211009 ?s=20

https://twitter.com/TVASports/status/1232005836555399169?s=2 0



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I guess we're not getting Hall now :(

-APC



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Magnum wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:12

The Oilers got him!!

Per TSN Radio and a guy names Gord from TSN!



Hall's cap hit with Arizona = Gagner. There is still hope! :P



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Magnum wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:14

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:13

I would like to know more!

https://twitter.com/GoalpostRadio/status/1232005575271211009 ?s=20

https://twitter.com/TVASports/status/1232005836555399169?s=2 0


https://twitter.com/gmillertsn/status/1232004993546407936?s= 21

https://twitter.com/pierrevlebrun/status/1232005617545568256 ?s=21



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 Re: Andreas Athanasiou! [message #755598 is a reply to message #755587 ]
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Andreas Athanasiou (to Edmonton) is a strong driver of offence both at 5v5 and 5v4, with a good-to-very-good shot and an extremely good penalty differential. His defensive weaknesses are much smaller than commonly supposed.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERj2aCJWkAEEIb7?format=png&name=900x900


Surprising honestly. He just plays on a team with management intentionally tanking and no goaltending. Hopefully he clicks with Mcdavid.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 10:13

Commie called it!

AA is still RFA after this year, 1 RFA year left.


https://www.capfriendly.com/players/andreas-athanasiou

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130614

$3M cap-hit on a 2 year deal that expires this summer. He will be an RFA July 1st. Hopefully he doesn't expect much of a raise.



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Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Two 2nd round picks for AA from Oilers.


Reasonable, considering it's not just a rental.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:21

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Two 2nd round picks for AA from Oilers.




Beauty.



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Yes they have!! Good on your being the first one!

For Detroit 2 second rounders I hear..



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McDavid is the real #Insiderrrrr

https://twitter.com/peterandri/status/1232006178617597954



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:21

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Two 2nd round picks for AA from Oilers.


Reasonable, considering it's not just a rental.

I like this. AA (I'm not learning how to spell that) is under team control for two playoff runs while the second rounders wouldn't help for 3 or 4 years, best case scenario.



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Craig Button doesn't like this deal. Thinks AA plays with blinders and will just be lost playing with McDavid. Too individualistic in how he plays.

Colour me surprised! Button doesn't like something about the oilers!



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MJ wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:19

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 10:13

Commie called it!

AA is still RFA after this year, 1 RFA year left.


https://www.capfriendly.com/players/andreas-athanasiou

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130614

$3M cap-hit on a 2 year deal that expires this summer. He will be an RFA July 1st. Hopefully he doesn't expect much of a raise.


He just got tanked, so he'll come in from a weak bargaining position. Guessing he'll take what he made last year. Fantastic deal.



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Bye Gags.

Gagner, 2020 2nd and 2021 2nd.

Oilers retain 10% of Gagner’s cap hit.

[Updated on: Mon, 24 February 2020 11:36]


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Might be even more to it:

https://twitter.com/DetroitRedWings/status/12320100875663810 57?s=20

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The Detroit #RedWings today acquired center Sam Gagner, a second-round pick in the 2020 NHL Entry Draft and a second-round pick in the 2021 NHL Entry Draft from the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for center Andreas Athanasiou and left wing Ryan Kuffner.



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:33

Bye Gags.

Gagner, 2020 2nd and 2021 2nd.


Okay, the pay is higher but not crazy. Thanks for your second spin 89!



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:31

Craig Button doesn't like this deal. Thinks AA plays with blinders and will just be lost playing with McDavid. Too individualistic in how he plays.

Colour me surprised! Button doesn't like something about the oilers!


hahaha.

Sorry, have to add more Button-ness. He put up his prospect list for the Oilers and Bouchard is now a B level prospect on his rankings, exactly the same as Samorukov. Broberg is A-.



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:33

Bye Gags.

Gagner, 2020 2nd and 2021 2nd.


oooh, more cap space opened.

Can bring gags back for 1M or something in the summer if we really want him around.



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Ryan Kuffner is also an RFA after this year. Currently a $1.35M AAV:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/ryan-kuffner
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=163400



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 11:21

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:21

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Two 2nd round picks for AA from Oilers.




Beauty.


One stop shopping. What else are the Wings selling?

I'm excited to see him in the lineup. Now I need to practice saying his name.



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I feel like this Sam Gagner trade is better than the first one.


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Wish Button would just Button it up when it comes to the Oilers. He's so blatant about it. This deal shows some real promise! Hope it leaves Button blubbering. I do feel bad for Sam, not being able to continue the ride with the Oilers this season.

[Updated on: Mon, 24 February 2020 11:49]


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Gosh, business is business but I feel bad for Gagner. I really like his character, but he always finds himself on awful teams.


Clean house or bust

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I am liking this deadline more than any since the cup run. Better on the back end and front end. Hopefully both goalies stay healthy. If they do, and we don't bomb these last few games, this team makes some noise in the playoffs.


5 Cups and counting.

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I am stunned! Get a young, speedy,skilled, former 30 goal guy who's having a bad year for in my opinion not much. Seconds if they work out are 4 yrs away. Plus they have control.

There is your winger for McDavid and you can keep your Dra line together. I love the deal.



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oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 10:42

I feel like this Sam Gagner trade is better than the first one.


No love for Teddy Purcell? lmao

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/sam-gagner



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At the least it looks like he will fill the "playing with mouth piece hanging out" hole that Gagner is leaving.



The one that starts at 15:00. I hope we see that a lot with him and McDavid :)

[Updated on: Mon, 24 February 2020 12:37]


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Worst part of the trade is now having to try and spell Athanasiou correctly.
So in other words, really happy.



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Terrific deal. Sad to lose Sam though. I really thought he'd be the kind of guy to turn it up big time during the playoffs ala Pisani. Oh well, a clear upgrade for the Oilers.


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Flames fans hate it, so there's your indicator that it's a good move. Always liked his speed & forecheck.


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Crossing my fingers for instant chemistry with #97. That is a whole lot of speed for opposing teams to handle.


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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:55

Flames fans hate it, so there's your indicator that it's a good move. Always liked his speed & forecheck.


I was just about to check what CP is up to. I imagine it’s a bunch of “overpay” and “he’s the green jacket leader, he’s terrible” posts.



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We retain 315,000 of salary on Gagner.

Capfriendly now says we have 2.8M of "current cap space". Still enough for Hall! haha, but with no 2nd round picks and not wanting to move a 1st. I think this might be it. Saving a bit of space to absorb some of Smith's bonuses.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:59

We retain 315,000 of salary on Gagner.

Capfriendly now says we have 2.8M of "current cap space".

Stauffer indicates Kenny is still in on Ennis(Ott) and Cousins(MTL)



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And the Eberle deal rises from the ashes and continues to live on!
Eberle -> Strome -> Spooner (though it was dead here) -> Gagner -> Athanasiou
Woot!



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:00

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 12:59

We retain 315,000 of salary on Gagner.

Capfriendly now says we have 2.8M of "current cap space".

Stauffer indicates Kenny is still in on Ennis(Ott) and Cousins(MTL)


Ah nice. Ennis would still be a nice add for a later pick.

AA-McDavid-Ennis >>>>>>>>> Gagner-McDavid-Chaisson hehe



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