| Oilers select 1st rd (#4) - Jesse Puljujarvi [message #673244] |
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 NetBOG
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FINAL RANK: 3 MIDTERM RANK: 2
POSITION: Right Wing SHOOTS: Right
HEIGHT: 6' 4" WEIGHT: 203
BORN: May 7, 1998 HOMETOWN: Tornio, Finland
BORN IN: Alvkarleby, SWE
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2015-2016 KARPAT FINLAND 50 13 15 28 22
2015-2016 FINLAND (2016 WJC CHAMPIONSHIPS) ITLTOUR 7 5 12 17 0
2015-2016 FIN (2016 IIHF U18 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP) ITLTOUR 4 5 2 7 2
2015-2016 FIN U20 (4-NATIONS TOURNAMENT 2015 - TAMPERE) ITLTOUR 3 2 0 2 0
2014-2015 KARPAT FINLAND 21 4 7 11 10
2014-2015 HOKKI FINLAND-2 15 8 5 13 8
2014-2015 KARPAT JR. FINLAND-JR. 11 12 6 18 10
2014-2015 FIN (2015 IIHF U18 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP) ITLTOUR 7 2 5 7 4
2014-2015 FINLAND (2015 WJC CHAMPIONSHIPS) ITLTOUR 5 0 0 0 0
2014-2015 FIN U18 (IVAN HLINKA MEMORIAL 2014) ITLTOUR 4 3 2 5 4
2014-2015 FIN U18 (5 NATIONS IN KRAVARE & PORUBA 2015) ITLTOUR 4 0 0 0 2
2014-2015 FIN U20 (4 NATIONS IN JONKOPING 2014) ITLTOUR 3 3 3 6 4
2014-2015 FIN U20 (4 NATIONS TOURNAMENT - PREROV 2014) ITLTOUR 3 0 2 2 14
2013-2014 KARPAT JR. FINLAND-JR. 18 12 11 23 4
2013-2014 KARPAT U18 FINLAND-JR. U18 8 7 7 14 8
2012-2013 KARPAT U18 FINLAND-JR. U18 42 31 20 51 14
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Ragnarok73
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I'd love to know what the Jackets were thinking, but this is cool.
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ChasinStanley
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His career is already ruined after shaking hands with Mac-T, things can only get worse from here
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Mike
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I didn't want us picking, but that's because I didn't think this was a possibility. Love it. Makes it easier to deal a $6m man for a dman.
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McDavid97
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Good for us.
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Steve
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Wow. The forward group on the Oilers is officially insane.
Just find some lugheads to pass the puck up the ice.
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Gator21
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| Steve wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:49 |
Wow. The forward group on the Oilers is officially insane.
Just find some lugheads to pass the puck up the ice.
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If the only FWD's we get rid of are Pouliot and Korpikoski and we manage to sign Lucic, it is pretty ridiculous..
Lucic-McDavid-Eberle
Hall-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi
Maroon-RNH-Yakupov
Hendricks-Letestu-Kassian
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Oscargasm
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Even if Pouliot is kept and Lucic isn't signed... still looks like a great top 9 and a gritty energy line. Still lacking lacking lacking on the backend though.
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Suomalainen
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OMG.
Yay!
I was hoping for a Finn, but was expecting him to play D
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 smyth260
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It's cool, but dang I want a defenseman.
Clean house or bust
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jds308
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| NetBOG wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 16:42 |
FINAL RANK: 3 MIDTERM RANK: 2
POSITION: Right Wing SHOOTS: Right
HEIGHT: 6' 4" WEIGHT: 203
BORN: May 7, 1998 HOMETOWN: Tornio, Finland
BORN IN: Alvkarleby, SWE
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Never really considered him as an option once we were slotted at 4, but hey outside of RHD a right shot winger is the next largest area of weakness. Nice Pick!
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Gator21
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Makes it a a lot easier to trade Ebs now if we need to.
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Magnum
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| Gator21 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:52 |
Makes it a a lot easier to trade Ebs now if we need to.
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The Oilers now still only have two right handed forwards in the top 9.
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Kr55
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Ha! Thanks Columbus.
How did they not get anything from us trading down? I'm sure Chia would have given up something small if he knew #3 was available to him.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Kr55
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:51 |
Ha! Thanks Columbus.
How did they not get anything from us trading down? I'm sure Chia would have given up something small if he knew #3 was available to him.
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Seems Kekalainen simply got owned by Chia:
http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-the-ice/kekalainen-actual ly-thought-deal-done/
Chia got the hint that Kekalainen didn't want to take Puljujarvi and obviously didn't show his hand on who he would take leaving the possibility open that he could take Dubois, which made it impossible for Kekalainen to go lower than the #4 pick to get his guy. So, Chia backed out of a small deal to move to #3 saving us an asset to get the same guy.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Rocksteady
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| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 27 June 2016 11:49 |
| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:51 |
Ha! Thanks Columbus.
How did they not get anything from us trading down? I'm sure Chia would have given up something small if he knew #3 was available to him.
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Seems Kekalainen simply got owned by Chia:
http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-the-ice/kekalainen-actual ly-thought-deal-done/
Chia got the hint that Kekalainen didn't want to take Puljujarvi and obviously didn't show his hand on who he would take leaving the possibility open that he could take Dubois, which made it impossible for Kekalainen to go lower than the #4 pick to get his guy. So, Chia backed out of a small deal to move to #3 saving us an asset to get the same guy.
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Good Good!! now someone write a scene if MacT was still our GM..
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
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Kr55
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| Rocksteady wrote on Mon, 27 June 2016 12:03 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 27 June 2016 11:49 |
| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:51 |
Ha! Thanks Columbus.
How did they not get anything from us trading down? I'm sure Chia would have given up something small if he knew #3 was available to him.
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Seems Kekalainen simply got owned by Chia:
http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-the-ice/kekalainen-actual ly-thought-deal-done/
Chia got the hint that Kekalainen didn't want to take Puljujarvi and obviously didn't show his hand on who he would take leaving the possibility open that he could take Dubois, which made it impossible for Kekalainen to go lower than the #4 pick to get his guy. So, Chia backed out of a small deal to move to #3 saving us an asset to get the same guy.
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Good Good!! now someone write a scene if MacT was still our GM..
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Kekalainen: So MacT, who do you like in this draft?
MacT: We Love Puljujarvi, we think he would be like Kurri was to Gretzky playing with McDavid. We would do almost anything to get him.
Kekalainen: Anyone else you like?
MacT: We are pretty set on getting Tkachuk at #4. We love his gritty play and he had a great Memorial Cup. We think he has Rocket Richard Potential.
Kekalainen: Oh, no one else?
MacT: Nope, those are our 2 guys, we figured we would save some time only scouting guys we expect to go #3 and #4. I was going to see Laine too, but...it's a long story.
Kekalainen: Well, I would consider trading down to #4.
MacT: Oh, wow, that's great news. How about we throw in a 3rd round pick for the swap?
Kekalainen: Let me get back to you... Oh, Vancouver is offering a 1st next year.
MacT: Oh, well... We really want to get this done, since it's for the next Kurri and all. How about 2 1sts?
Kekalainen: Let me get back to you... Vancouver is offering 2 1sts and Horvat.
MacT: Oh..ok. How about 2 1sts and Nuge?
Kekalainen: Done.
MacT: SWEET!
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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Red Rage
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https://twitter.com/grantmccagg/status/747832816621228032
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Grant McCagg @grantmccagg
Have heard from both media and NHL sources that if Puljujarvi didn't drop to 4th overall the Oilers were taking Sergachev.
10:43 AM - 28 Jun 2016
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NZ Oiler Fan
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Just saw this on Oilersnation and had to share it :)
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Red Rage
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| NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 29 June 2016 08:02 |
Just saw this on Oilersnation and had to share it :)
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Bwa ha ha ha
2:01 reminds me of the Eakins "swarm" defense.
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mightyreasoner
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| Red Rage wrote on Tue, 28 June 2016 20:00 |
https://twitter.com/grantmccagg/status/747832816621228032
Sorry, I don't know how to embed a tweet.
Grant McCagg @grantmccagg
Have heard from both media and NHL sources that if Puljujarvi didn't drop to 4th overall the Oilers were taking Sergachev.
10:43 AM - 28 Jun 2016
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My thoughts are quite simple: It would have been stupid to pick Sergachev at #4. If they wanted him, fine, but Arizona is there at #7, badly wanting Matthew Tkachuk. You flip the #4 and the #7 and pick up another piece. Reaching at #4 when there is a team that would move up and you both get the player you want... that would be silly.
Puljujarvi falling to us was a gift, and it might have saved the Oilers from making a poor decision.
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Goose
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 29 June 2016 09:26 |
| Red Rage wrote on Tue, 28 June 2016 20:00 |
https://twitter.com/grantmccagg/status/747832816621228032
Sorry, I don't know how to embed a tweet.
Grant McCagg @grantmccagg
Have heard from both media and NHL sources that if Puljujarvi didn't drop to 4th overall the Oilers were taking Sergachev.
10:43 AM - 28 Jun 2016
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My thoughts are quite simple: It would have been stupid to pick Sergachev at #4. If they wanted him, fine, but Arizona is there at #7, badly wanting Matthew Tkachuk. You flip the #4 and the #7 and pick up another piece. Reaching at #4 when there is a team that would move up and you both get the player you want... that would be silly.
Puljujarvi falling to us was a gift, and it might have saved the Oilers from making a poor decision.
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It's entirely possible that the Oilers had a deal in place to move down at that point, or were going to try to make a deal to move down. But according to what Chiarelli said, they thought there was a chance that Puljujarvi might fall. And once that happened any deal to move down was off.
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mightyreasoner
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| Goose wrote on Wed, 29 June 2016 10:45 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 29 June 2016 09:26 |
| Red Rage wrote on Tue, 28 June 2016 20:00 |
https://twitter.com/grantmccagg/status/747832816621228032
Sorry, I don't know how to embed a tweet.
Grant McCagg @grantmccagg
Have heard from both media and NHL sources that if Puljujarvi didn't drop to 4th overall the Oilers were taking Sergachev.
10:43 AM - 28 Jun 2016
28 28 Retweets
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Thoughts?
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My thoughts are quite simple: It would have been stupid to pick Sergachev at #4. If they wanted him, fine, but Arizona is there at #7, badly wanting Matthew Tkachuk. You flip the #4 and the #7 and pick up another piece. Reaching at #4 when there is a team that would move up and you both get the player you want... that would be silly.
Puljujarvi falling to us was a gift, and it might have saved the Oilers from making a poor decision.
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It's entirely possible that the Oilers had a deal in place to move down at that point, or were going to try to make a deal to move down. But according to what Chiarelli said, they thought there was a chance that Puljujarvi might fall. And once that happened any deal to move down was off.
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Chiarelli read that perfect. Really impressed with that read and how he held on to #4 to see what Columbus would do.
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Red Rage
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That makes 100% sense. But so does Columbus making a deal to grab an asset while moving down to draft Dubois later.
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OilPeg
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| Red Rage wrote on Wed, 29 June 2016 14:06 |
That makes 100% sense. But so does Columbus making a deal to grab an asset while moving down to draft Dubois later.
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Unless Chia convinced him he was taking Dubois at 4 and CLB didn't have the guts to call his bluff.
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ChasinStanley
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And most pundits think he's ready to play
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Oilertime
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That sure worked out well. I wasn't 100% sold on Tkachuck so this is even better.
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messier11
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1. I was hoping for a trade.
2. I was happy with drafting Matthew Tkachuk if we drafted #4
3. I am ecstatic that we got the consensus #3 at #4...thanks CLB!
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bigEfromGP
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This is how I see it:
We needed to trade from a position of strength to fix a position of weakness. This draft just increased our position of strength more than was expected going in. So we are definitely set for a big trade to get some D?
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It's hard to disagree that he has the ideal male body.
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Magnum
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My guess is that Montreal wanted Dubois, when that went to Columbus, the deal was off. No Subban today 
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2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
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NetBOG
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| Magnum wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 18:10 |
My guess is that Montreal wanted Dubois, when that went to Columbus, the deal was off. No Subban today
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...or they take Sergachev and feel they have a guy they can mold into a replacement, and deal Subban
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Skookum Jim
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Even when we lose the lottery we win! Thanks CBJ!
He's got GREAT wheels as well, big body with hands, shot, perfect compliment for McD. He can play next year if needed, or not. He's a BIG kid, said he needs to get stronger in the summer. He'll be a load.
One thing he needs to do.. needs to enroll in some summer ESL courses :)
Chiarelli has so many more management options now, might actually be able to orchestrate a D-man transaction before October.
Going after Lucic may not be as pressing now.
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MJ
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This is a nice surprise, but does not make us a playoff team next year. I still fear year 11 to break the record. That pick should have been leverage to get someone for now, not 2-3 years away.
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jds308
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I find this interesting:
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Jason Gregor
@JasonGregor
Puljujarvi has played two years of pro in Finland. He was best player at WJC. He could start in AHL if #Oilers want.
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mazankowski
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| jds308 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:33 |
I find this interesting:
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Jason Gregor
@JasonGregor
Puljujarvi has played two years of pro in Finland. He was best player at WJC. He could start in AHL if #Oilers want.
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May not be an awful idea? At least for half the year perhaps? You know injuries will occur in the top 6, then maybe he come up? Similar to Drai?
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jds308
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| mazankowski wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:42 |
| jds308 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:33 |
I find this interesting:
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Jason Gregor
@JasonGregor
Puljujarvi has played two years of pro in Finland. He was best player at WJC. He could start in AHL if #Oilers want.
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May not be an awful idea? At least for half the year perhaps? You know injuries will occur in the top 6, then maybe he come up? Similar to Drai?
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And more importantly not have to force him into the NHL.
If he plays a year in the A, does that burn an RFA year? It's a pro league after all.
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mazankowski
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| jds308 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:50 |
| mazankowski wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:42 |
| jds308 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:33 |
I find this interesting:
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Jason Gregor
@JasonGregor
Puljujarvi has played two years of pro in Finland. He was best player at WJC. He could start in AHL if #Oilers want.
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May not be an awful idea? At least for half the year perhaps? You know injuries will occur in the top 6, then maybe he come up? Similar to Drai?
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And more importantly not have to force him into the NHL.
If he plays a year in the A, does that burn an RFA year? It's a pro league after all.
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I don't think the AHL counts as long as he doesnt play more than 10 NHL games. But I could be wrong.
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NetBOG
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| jds308 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 18:50 |
| mazankowski wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:42 |
| jds308 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:33 |
I find this interesting:
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Jason Gregor
@JasonGregor
Puljujarvi has played two years of pro in Finland. He was best player at WJC. He could start in AHL if #Oilers want.
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May not be an awful idea? At least for half the year perhaps? You know injuries will occur in the top 6, then maybe he come up? Similar to Drai?
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And more importantly not have to force him into the NHL.
If he plays a year in the A, does that burn an RFA year? It's a pro league after all.
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Apparently not, has to play 10 NHL games
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smyth260
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Rishaug tweets: "Sounds like the Oilers were going to take a Dman at 4 before the suprise happened at 3"
Uggghhh.
Clean house or bust
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mazankowski
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| smyth260 wrote on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:35 |
Rishaug tweets: "Sounds like the Oilers were going to take a Dman at 4 before the suprise happened at 3"
Uggghhh.
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Better not have been without a trade down. But from 4 on this year it was a crap shoot, so glad he fell to us. Did anyone else notice how stunned the Oilers were? They didnt even have a name bar prepared for him lol.
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