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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 22 April 2024 13:42 |
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 21 April 2024 15:11 | Always thought Kane had some kind of chronic injury that stifled his skating.. he looked slower and less agile.. Apparently he's been dealing with a sports hernia all season..
Quote: | Ryan Rishaug@TSNRyanRishaug
Kane says he’s dealing with a sports hernia and has been all season. He’s hopeful to play but has needed to take some time off the ice late in the season to let it heal. Full participant today in practice.
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.. which makes you wonder why Oilers never "Mark Stoned" him and put him on LTIR so they could get $5M in cap for the trade deadline.. defraud the intent of the cap system just like Vegas does every year.. according to NHL Corp. its legal to do so..
*Sorry KR55 didn't see your prior post
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I was wondering the same thing.
I don't pretend to know all the ins and outs of LTIR. But I believe you have to get a doc to sign off and the player, is that correct?
So I am wondering if his injury wasn't bad enough to put him on LTIR because he played 77 games and just about all the games he missed (3 of them) were the last week of the season. Otherwise, it makes zero sense to me.
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He will probably go under the knife as soon as the season is done. If a player is not able to be 100% because of a very real issue, I don't see how the league can say you can't get it fixed or seek some way to rehab it. Crosby got surgery for a sports hernia in 2019 and came back on fire 2 and a half months later with a 4 point night off the hop and red hot until the COVID shutdown.
It's really weird that Kane would reveal this before playoffs are done. Is he sour about how his injury has been handled? Or just feels compelled to give an excuse for how he has played? Worse case would be a lot of the drama around him this year was that he wanted to pull a mark stone for the team but has been pushed all year to stay in the lineup and play through his injury.
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Kane doesn't strike me as the type what would allow a team to tell him whether he will or won't get treatment. He strikes me as being overly confident/proud and would be the one to decide what happens. My guess is the team docs told him about the injury whenever it happened. He could get it fixed with surgery or play through it with regular treatment until the offseason when it gets fixed.
My guess is the injury isn't bad enough that he had to be out and had to get it fixed right away. While it would benefit him to some degree to get it fixed right away, he could play through with treatment if he wanted. Hence why we saw him periodically missing practices and him missing the last 3 games. For the team, it probably would have been better if he did a Stone and went on LTIR right before the deadline but I don't think a team can force a player to get surgery or sit out unless they want too. It is their bodies after all.
Does the next GM need to add in a question about LTIR to future players? "How OK are you with going on LTIR for questionable injuries if needed?"
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It is very disappointing that we have Kane injured again for playoffs. Second year in a row now.
He was being demoted to the 4th line back in Nov/Dec wasn't he? He scored maybe 3 goals since the deadline dragging himself around.
I don't get how we let it get to this point. Where he isn't even sure he can play game 1. What a disaster. Someone or many people were totally brain dead in how to handle his almost season long injury.
If this was Vegas, they would have Kane at 100% for game 1, and another $5M player. I have zero doubt. I doubt the thought of doing that even crossed Holland's mind.
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I know in here, it's always the brain dead teams fault for no matter what but correct me if I am wrong but does the player not have to agree to go on LTIR?
I haven't read the CBA but I believe in order to put a player on LTIR, a doctor has to confirm the injury and the player has to agree to be put on LTIR. I don't think a team can just walk into the dressing room and point to player X and say. "You are now on LTIR and aren't playing for 2 months, don't say anything. " I believe the player has a say in it.
I think it was after he was scratched for the March 26th game, Kane came out and said he wasn't hurt or it wasn't a "maintenance day" he was a healthy scratch. SO if that is the case and in his mind, he was good to go, it was a team decision, I don't see how he could be put on LTIR if he's not hurt enough.
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