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 2022-23 Post Mortem [message #823773]
Fri, 19 May 2023 10:57 Go to previous message
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Alright, I think it's time to discuss the broader issues with the Oilers now that we've had time to digest the season coming to an end.

inverno76 wrote on Fri, 19 May 2023 09:52

CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 19 May 2023 00:32

Adam wrote on Thu, 18 May 2023 22:20

Rutuu wrote on Thu, 18 May 2023 17:12


Next year and the one after is our window. We need need a tender, and a top pairing and we need to mortgage 1st's, 2nd's, prospects and use LTIR and the cap rules to pay other teams to eat money to do it.




I disagree. Next year is our window. If we don't make the Finals at worst, I think Draisaitl doesn't sign an extension and it's the beginning of the end. If the Oilers hold him, then we face losing him for nothing as a UFA. If we trade him, we can't hope to get fair value. If he leaves? Then McDavid is done here too.

So pray for the win next year, because if it doesn't the next Dark Age is upon us.

I consider trading Drai this summer.

I don’t think the team, as it’s presently constructed, can win the cup. The mix of personalities, skill set, contracts, offense, and defense just isn’t right. I’m not saying I trust Holland, Holland, or Staios to make a Draisaitl trade because I don’t. I just don’t think there’s a path to glory with this team, as it’s presently constructed, next year. Swapping out Yamo or Ceci simply doesn’t move the needle enough. They’d still be exactly who they are. This is where I’d be #bold. That’s not pot stirring. The team simply isn’t a real contender.



Took me most of the week to get to reading stuff about that last game, but this trading Draisaitl stuff is over the top. You always consider alternative avenues, but what leads anyone to believe that the end of times is coming?

I am not buying it. I am disappointed in our end result. This team had a clear path to the Cup, but we tripped over our own feet. This team is a juggernaut with some glaring holes, but addressable holes. Bookmark this post. We are not losing 97 or 29 anytime soon, and we have a 6-8 year run of being considered a Cup contender.

I am a ray of effin' sunshine, and everyone needs to bask in my UV.


I don't think the end is coming. Even poorly managed the Oilers can exist as a fringe contender for the foreseeable future, which for me is only 2 or 3 years, and maybe even cash one in with some luck. Who knows. But I disagree that this team is juggernaut, the glaring holes are addressable, and that they're 2ish (4ish?) years into a decade long run of being coin flips away from the cup.

I think they were fortunate to come back from 3-2 against the Kings last year and wildly lucky not to be down 3-1 this year. They were easily handled by the Avs last year and shoved aside by a Knights team that capitalized on those glaring Oilers weaknesses and mitigated the Oilers strengths when they had to. I know it was a close series but the Knights were able to impose their will on the Oilers. The Flames series was... well that was just a masterpiece of offensive hockey creating a total collapse. The whole series should be immortalized in a tapestry and hung in town square. Before that we saw the juggernaut offense get completely goalied by the waning Jets and whatever that Chicago series was. If that is the path to future greatness... I have some concerns about the construction of this hill. I accept that this perspective of history is highly biased by my own perceptions and beliefs. Anyone is free to disagree with parts of this (not the Calgary part) and would come to different conclusions when projecting future outcomes.

So why do I consider trading Drai? I don't see the Oilers as being structured for success because the dynamism of McDavid and Draisaitl inherently lead to a top heavy approach better suited for gaudy regular season numbers rather than winning tight and frustrating playoff hockey. For the last 4 season I've watched the Oilers be unable to do the one thing they need to do to win: outscore problems. For me this becomes a management problem. If an organization can not achieve it's goals management has to decide to change the goals or change the inputs. Since no one will be happy with the President's Cup being THE goal (which I think is achievable) I think it's time to consider changing the inputs.

Keep in mind this is all very different than saying we should trade Drai.

Now, I don't think the Oilers have the management talent to successfully trade Drai nor do I think they have the stones to do it. I also agree that Draisaitl is also on a value contract right now, but that could be seen as making an early trade even more useful. As a fan, I do not want this management team trading Draisaitl. As a guy that loved being creative with case studies in business school... I see an opportunity.

To go back to rutuu and Adam's discussion of Cup windows. IF I believe the Oilers we real and true cup contenders I'd take a run at two cups and risk losing him for nothing to free agency. But if they're not real and true cup contenders right now, good management will acknowledge it and a hard decision will have to be made. This is why I think, under present circumstance, the cup window is either exactly two years OR it doesn't exist.



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