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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 20 September 2022 11:16

Adam wrote on Tue, 20 September 2022 10:28

One more comment on this - a friend of mine said yesterday that the Oilers now have an accused rapist on a tryout, trying to make a team to play alongside an accused assaulter of women, on a team run by a guy who set up a fund to cover up rape allegations for Team Canada and owned by a guy who's had a couple of accusations of sexual impropriety, including most recently when he was "buying movie ideas" from a teenager.

Safe to say that the team's image isn't exactly great right now. It's hard for us die-hards to move on from the team, even with all that, but man - they have to be losing casual fans, especially female ones through this callous disregard.

You're playing games with language to further your point disingenuously. If you're going to say he's an accused rapist you should also say he was acquitted... unless you're intentionally spoiling the well.

At this point I think it's time for you and your friends to put up or shut up. Vote with your dollars. Personally I don't think hockey fans are hockey fans because they have a side passion for vigilante justice. Maybe some are but I have a feeling most are hockey fans because of the hockey.

Now, if you're saying he's not a good enough hockey player and the baggage is another negative, fine. But this feels like a pompous witch hunt.




What I'm saying is that whether someone can be proven to be a rapist beyond any reasonable doubt is significantly different than that it's more likely than not that the person did it.

I think that people should still face consequences other than judicial ones for extremely bad behaviour. Rape and assault are right up there for me on the list of really bad behaviour. If the case facts would lead a reasonable person to think that someone did that bad thing, then I think that should impact them. It was enough for the Canucks - they didn't even know if he was going to get charged, but they heard the story and decided that they didn't want to be associated with the player any further.

I think there's two ways you can look at this running a sports team - either you keep it clean, and expect that players are going to be held to a code of conduct (that would be my preference), or you use a risk/reward approach to this kind of thing, deciding how much backlash you're likely to see from a move, and how risky the player is to continue acting poorly and what the likely reward would be from having him on the team.

The Oilers have no confidence in Virtanen's ability to move the needle. If they did, he has a contract and not a tryout. He had a poor NHL season, followed by a poor KHL season, so there's not really any reason to think his trajectory should lead to a great NHL season now. I've seen some people wondering if he can be a top-six player - well, he never was before, so that's probably an unreasonable hope.

Even if you go by the risk/reward model, this is a bad move. They get all the negative flak for bringing this guy in, without any reward other than maybe a few incels who think sexual assault is overblown feel like Holland has their back.



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