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 WCF- EDM (PAC 2) vs. DAL (CEN 1) [message #834595]
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The stress continues. LFG!!!


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 Re: WCF- EDM (PAC 2) vs. DAL (CEN 1) [message #834606 is a reply to message #834598 ]
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Gonna be in tough for this one. Will need all hands on deck. Hope the couple days off gives McDavid time to heal up whatever is ailing him.

1. What's up with Henrique? Any updates? Sure would help to have him back.
2. McLeod - that high stick and the flub that led to the first goal weren't great, but at least we finally saw a bit of jam out of him. Let's hope for more of that.
3. In only about 10 minute in each of his last 2 games, I thought Carrick was a big positive. Hitting everything that moves, and hitting them hard. I think that can pay dividends in a long series. I'd keep him in ahead of Perry.

We need to go hard at Benn early and often because you know he'll be looking to dish it out on our stars.

And for the love of god - you are not a team that can sit back. Stop doing that. IF you're up by 10 in the 3rd? Ok, maybe then. But up by 3 or even 4? Keep pushing.



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 Re: WCF- EDM (PAC 2) vs. DAL (CEN 1) [message #834613 is a reply to message #834606 ]
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Mike wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 08:29

Gonna be in tough for this one. Will need all hands on deck. Hope the couple days off gives McDavid time to heal up whatever is ailing him.

1. What's up with Henrique? Any updates? Sure would help to have him back.
2. McLeod - that high stick and the flub that led to the first goal weren't great, but at least we finally saw a bit of jam out of him. Let's hope for more of that.
3. In only about 10 minute in each of his last 2 games, I thought Carrick was a big positive. Hitting everything that moves, and hitting them hard. I think that can pay dividends in a long series. I'd keep him in ahead of Perry.

We need to go hard at Benn early and often because you know he'll be looking to dish it out on our stars.

And for the love of god - you are not a team that can sit back. Stop doing that. IF you're up by 10 in the 3rd? Ok, maybe then. But up by 3 or even 4? Keep pushing.


If you are up by 10, then go for 11. If I remember correctly, Gretzky said one of the reasons the 80's Oilers were so good was because they never took their foot off the gas and trouncing a team was like blood in the water for a team of sharks.

That timeout call by Knoblauch was crucial. The team reset and went in to PK kill mode, instead of chasing their own tails.



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 Re: WCF- EDM (PAC 2) vs. DAL (CEN 1) [message #834664 is a reply to message #834606 ]
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Mike wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 08:29

Gonna be in tough for this one. Will need all hands on deck. Hope the couple days off gives McDavid time to heal up whatever is ailing him.

1. What's up with Henrique? Any updates? Sure would help to have him back.
2. McLeod - that high stick and the flub that led to the first goal weren't great, but at least we finally saw a bit of jam out of him. Let's hope for more of that.
3. In only about 10 minute in each of his last 2 games, I thought Carrick was a big positive. Hitting everything that moves, and hitting them hard. I think that can pay dividends in a long series. I'd keep him in ahead of Perry.

We need to go hard at Benn early and often because you know he'll be looking to dish it out on our stars.

And for the love of god - you are not a team that can sit back. Stop doing that. IF you're up by 10 in the 3rd? Ok, maybe then. But up by 3 or even 4? Keep pushing.


McDavid’s issue is a CMI, core muscle injury, sustained shortly after the all star break. Likely going to have surgery in offseason.

Rico is a high ankle sprain. Likely not playing Thursday, but will for sure be in by Game 3 back at home.

Carrick has been a big part of that bottom 6. In my humble opinion, I’d sit McLeod when Rico is back in and run Foeg-Rico-Ryan as L3. 4th line has been exactly what you want in a 4th line.



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 Re: WCF- EDM (PAC 2) vs. DAL (CEN 1) [message #834667 is a reply to message #834664 ]
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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 19:28

..McDavid’s issue is a CMI, core muscle injury, sustained shortly after the all star break. Likely going to have surgery in offseason.

Rico is a high ankle sprain. Likely not playing Thursday, but will for sure be in by Game 3 back at home.

Carrick has been a big part of that bottom 6. In my humble opinion, I’d sit McLeod when Rico is back in and run Foeg-Rico-Ryan as L3. 4th line has been exactly what you want in a 4th line.


Yikes.. CMI ?
😬

Amazing he's still dominating out there with a significant injury.. really hope surgery isn't required..

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Gotta implement a strategy that forces the Stars to "play down" to competition...confident we can pull this off though! LFG!


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 Re: WCF- EDM (PAC 2) vs. DAL (CEN 1) [message #834605 is a reply to message #834603 ]
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6:30 Mtn time puck drop? Dang it, I'll be in the air! Our flight doesn't arrive in Edmonton until around 9. Hopefully I'll get to see some of it during our layover in (spits) Calgary.


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 Re: WCF- EDM (PAC 2) vs. DAL (CEN 1) [message #834616 is a reply to message #834605 ]
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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 08:26

6:30 Mtn time puck drop? Dang it, I'll be in the air! Our flight doesn't arrive in Edmonton until around 9. Hopefully I'll get to see some of it during our layover in (spits) Calgary.



You can pay $20ish for the planes wifi services, but if you use SportsNet it will not recognize you being in a time zone and it will not let you watch the game. That being said, the OT Forum has some links to work around that issue.



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inverno76 wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 11:55

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 08:26

6:30 Mtn time puck drop? Dang it, I'll be in the air! Our flight doesn't arrive in Edmonton until around 9. Hopefully I'll get to see some of it during our layover in (spits) Calgary.



You can pay $20ish for the planes wifi services, but if you use SportsNet it will not recognize you being in a time zone and it will not let you watch the game. That being said, the OT Forum has some links to work around that issue.


It should be shown on CBC, so even if your IFE doesn't have live TV, you should be able to catch it on any of your devices.



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 Re: WCF- EDM (PAC 2) vs. DAL (CEN 1) [message #834617 is a reply to message #834595 ]
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Ugh. Dallas. I still have PTSD from the rivalry between our nail and their hammer.

I do have a soft spot for their stupid goal song. I'm sure that'll change soon



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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 08:59

Ugh. Dallas. I still have PTSD from the rivalry between our nail and their hammer.

I do have a soft spot for their stupid goal song. I'm sure that'll change soon



Maybe we won't have to hear it?



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Adam wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 09:05

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 08:59

Ugh. Dallas. I still have PTSD from the rivalry between our nail and their hammer.

I do have a soft spot for their stupid goal song. I'm sure that'll change soon



Maybe we won't have to hear it?


Let's see if this team can continue to shut down shots against. I have enough confidence in any one of our goalies, including Campbell when we are only giving perimeter shots and under 20 shots on net per night.

The team defence is wildly underrated. All I hear from people is the Oilers are all offence and cannot commit to D, yet they continually tighten up their game and snuff out scoring chances.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 10:05

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 21 May 2024 08:59

Ugh. Dallas. I still have PTSD from the rivalry between our nail and their hammer.

I do have a soft spot for their stupid goal song. I'm sure that'll change soon



Maybe we won't have to hear it?


I really like the song they play when the away team scores....and let's hope to hear more of that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WdA6JsvMn0



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Let's make this our goal song, then they'll be celebrating every time it happens


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Difficulty notches up to another level. It'll be a slower series. Should take less of a pounding by the opposition D which hopefully lets our high end guys get more done 5v5. But the attack coming at our D is going to be more consistent and more skilled. Going to be a verd hard series for our 2nd and 3rd pairs, and I don't think Skinner is going to avoid being tested a lot.

Hope for the best!



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Stress is right. This also won’t be an easy series. I think it goes the distance with oilers winning in 7. Dallas is hitting a hot stride and playing some really good hockey. Their goalie is also red hot and playing at a top level. They won’t be easy to knock off. Should be a hell of a series!


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Feeling sneaky confident heading into this series! Also any way we can sign a petition to make both teams wear 90's throwbacks for this series??


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TNT will be in Dallas for the NBA Mavericks series, Friday. Think we’ll get a Shaq Hyman meeting 👀


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Oilers not getting the love from ESPN they were in the first two rounds with 19/24 going with the Stars:

Sean Allen: Stars in six
John Buccigross: Stars in seven
Ryan Callahan: Stars in six
Cassie Campbell-Pascall: Stars in six
Sachin Chandan: Stars in six
Ryan S. Clark: Stars in seven
Linda Cohn: Stars in six
Ray Ferraro: Stars in six
Emily Kaplan: Stars in seven
Tim Kavanagh: Stars in six
Hilary Knight: Stars in six
Peter Lawrence-Riddell: Stars in six
Steve Levy: Stars in six
Vince Masi: Oilers in seven
Victoria Matiash: Stars in six
Sean McDonough: Stars in six
Mark Messier: Oilers in seven
AJ Mleczko: Stars in seven
Mike Monaco: Stars in seven
Arda Öcal: Oilers in six
Kristen Shilton: Stars in six
P.K. Subban: Stars in six
Bob Wischusen: Oilers in seven
Greg Wyshynski: Oilers in six

Consensus pick: Stars (19 of 24 picks)

The Moneypuck analytics site has the Oilers with a 51.8% chance of winning:

https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm

It was actually at 57% yesterday--not sure what caused it to go down. Oilers are still their best pick for the Cup at 29.1%--though it's really close. Rangers are 27.8%, Stars 24.9%, and Panthers 18.2%.




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benv wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 11:38

Oilers not getting the love from ESPN they were in the first two rounds with 19/24 going with the Stars:

Sean Allen: Stars in six
John Buccigross: Stars in seven
Ryan Callahan: Stars in six
Cassie Campbell-Pascall: Stars in six
Sachin Chandan: Stars in six
Ryan S. Clark: Stars in seven
Linda Cohn: Stars in six
Ray Ferraro: Stars in six
Emily Kaplan: Stars in seven
Tim Kavanagh: Stars in six
Hilary Knight: Stars in six
Peter Lawrence-Riddell: Stars in six
Steve Levy: Stars in six
Vince Masi: Oilers in seven
Victoria Matiash: Stars in six
Sean McDonough: Stars in six
Mark Messier: Oilers in seven
AJ Mleczko: Stars in seven
Mike Monaco: Stars in seven
Arda Öcal: Oilers in six
Kristen Shilton: Stars in six
P.K. Subban: Stars in six
Bob Wischusen: Oilers in seven
Greg Wyshynski: Oilers in six

Consensus pick: Stars (19 of 24 picks)

The Moneypuck analytics site has the Oilers with a 51.8% chance of winning:

https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm

It was actually at 57% yesterday--not sure what caused it to go down. Oilers are still their best pick for the Cup at 29.1%--though it's really close. Rangers are 27.8%, Stars 24.9%, and Panthers 18.2%.





Subban picking the Stars? Never saw that coming...................



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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 11:53

benv wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 11:38

Oilers not getting the love from ESPN they were in the first two rounds with 19/24 going with the Stars:

Sean Allen: Stars in six
John Buccigross: Stars in seven
Ryan Callahan: Stars in six
Cassie Campbell-Pascall: Stars in six
Sachin Chandan: Stars in six
Ryan S. Clark: Stars in seven
Linda Cohn: Stars in six
Ray Ferraro: Stars in six
Emily Kaplan: Stars in seven
Tim Kavanagh: Stars in six
Hilary Knight: Stars in six
Peter Lawrence-Riddell: Stars in six
Steve Levy: Stars in six
Vince Masi: Oilers in seven
Victoria Matiash: Stars in six
Sean McDonough: Stars in six
Mark Messier: Oilers in seven
AJ Mleczko: Stars in seven
Mike Monaco: Stars in seven
Arda Öcal: Oilers in six
Kristen Shilton: Stars in six
P.K. Subban: Stars in six
Bob Wischusen: Oilers in seven
Greg Wyshynski: Oilers in six

Consensus pick: Stars (19 of 24 picks)

The Moneypuck analytics site has the Oilers with a 51.8% chance of winning:

https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm

It was actually at 57% yesterday--not sure what caused it to go down. Oilers are still their best pick for the Cup at 29.1%--though it's really close. Rangers are 27.8%, Stars 24.9%, and Panthers 18.2%.





Subban picking the Stars? Never saw that coming...................


More fun to be the underdog. Hope our players are seeing this.



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Lots in the media talk about how the Stars handled the Avs pretty well. When I look at the Avs line up, I don't think it's that good.

They have/had a great first line that they played a ton.

Rantanen - Mackinnon - Nuchuskin - Easily can go toe to toe with any line in the NHL and be considered one of the best.

They have a fantastic Dman in Makar.

After that it drops off a ton.

Lehkonen is a good top 6 forward after that, I think they lack a couple of top 6 forwards. Mittlestad is their second line center, looks like he can do the job but still probably not completely established. Drouin was a project that reestablished himself but only played 3 games. Nichuskin got suspended for drugs. Their goaltending wasn't that great. So I don't see the Avs as a big of a hurdle to get past as some do.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 11:32

Lots in the media talk about how the Stars handled the Avs pretty well. When I look at the Avs line up, I don't think it's that good.

They have/had a great first line that they played a ton.

Rantanen - Mackinnon - Nuchuskin - Easily can go toe to toe with any line in the NHL and be considered one of the best.

They have a fantastic Dman in Makar.

After that it drops off a ton.

Lehkonen is a good top 6 forward after that, I think they lack a couple of top 6 forwards. Mittlestad is their second line center, looks like he can do the job but still probably not completely established. Drouin was a project that reestablished himself but only played 3 games. Nichuskin got suspended for drugs. Their goaltending wasn't that great. So I don't see the Avs as a big of a hurdle to get past as some do.


I actually like us against the Stars more than I did the Canucks. Canucks seemed like they were the ideal type of team to exploit our weaknesses. Stars are a more traditional matchup for us. Only worry is their goaltending which can definitely be one of our weaknesses.



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D and goaltending will make these series. Nurse still makes huge errors in the zone, but he's human. Kulak makes some serious lapses in judgment, even Ekholm tries to make a hit when the hit isn't there and he flies out of position.

Our goaltending is just... okay.

Dallas is way better defensively. The goaltending easily outmatches ours.

That all said, our offense is our bread and butter and if McD and Drai (on separate lines) we might have a shot. A lot of people look at our chances with scoring and we easily beat Dallas.

My head says Stars in 6.



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Rocksteady wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 12:56

D and goaltending will make these series. Nurse still makes huge errors in the zone, but he's human. Kulak makes some serious lapses in judgment, even Ekholm tries to make a hit when the hit isn't there and he flies out of position.

Our goaltending is just... okay.

Dallas is way better defensively. The goaltending easily outmatches ours.

That all said, our offense is our bread and butter and if McD and Drai (on separate lines) we might have a shot. A lot of people look at our chances with scoring and we easily beat Dallas.

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Oiler lines at practice this morning (before heading out to Dallas):

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Henrique-Draisaitl-Holloway
Foegele-McLeod-Ryan
Janmark-Carrick-Brown
Gagner-Perry

Kane not on ice.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Desharnais
Kulak-Ceci


Good to see Henrique may be close to returning. Hopefully Kane's absence is just maintenance.

Still kind of hoping Gagner gets at least one game these playoffs--although it will probably take a couple injuries for it to happen; so maybe I'm not hoping for it.



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benv wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 14:05

Oiler lines at practice this morning (before heading out to Dallas):

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Henrique-Draisaitl-Holloway
Foegele-McLeod-Ryan
Janmark-Carrick-Brown
Gagner-Perry

Kane not on ice.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Desharnais
Kulak-Ceci


Good to see Henrique may be close to returning. Hopefully Kane's absence is just maintenance.

Still kind of hoping Gagner gets at least one game these playoffs--although it will probably take a couple injuries for it to happen; so maybe I'm not hoping for it.



What do you think Gagner would bring to the line up other than allow him to play in a playoff game wearing an Oilers jersey? I'm not meaning this to come at you, I am legit asking because I am all about winning and dressing the best guys to allow that to happen.

Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think dressing Gagner is straight up a sentimental thing for some fans. If they decided for the betterment of the team, that sitting Perry, considering he's got 206 playoff games of experience, a ring, been to the finals a bunch of times, he's big, he can mix it up, be a pest, plays a playoff style of hockey, and they thought their line up was better without, I can't see how Gagner is a better option over anyone else in the line up and I would dress Perry over Gagner.

As you said, I think there would have to be multiple injuries before Gagner got in. When Henrique is ready, one of Brown or Ryan will have to come out. Brown is a way better skater and very good on the PK. Ryan is very good on the PK and good on draws. I don't see how or why Gagner gets in.

I looked it up. To get your name on the cup, you need to have played at least 40 games in the regular season or 1 game in the final. Gagner only played 28 games. Now maybe if the Oilers were up 3-0 in the cup final, they might throw him in for 1 game just so he qualifies because I do think after this season he will retire and move into a player development role with the Oilers. I have read there was a job offer waiting for him. So if that is the case, maybe they throw him a bone so he gets on the cup.

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 Re: WCF- EDM (PAC 2) vs. DAL (CEN 1) [message #834684 is a reply to message #834683 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:25

benv wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 14:05

Oiler lines at practice this morning (before heading out to Dallas):

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Henrique-Draisaitl-Holloway
Foegele-McLeod-Ryan
Janmark-Carrick-Brown
Gagner-Perry

Kane not on ice.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Desharnais
Kulak-Ceci


Good to see Henrique may be close to returning. Hopefully Kane's absence is just maintenance.

Still kind of hoping Gagner gets at least one game these playoffs--although it will probably take a couple injuries for it to happen; so maybe I'm not hoping for it.



What do you think Gagner would bring to the line up other than allow him to play in a playoff game wearing an Oilers jersey? I'm not meaning this to come at you, I am legit asking because I am all about winning and dressing the best guys to allow that to happen.

Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think dressing Gagner is straight up a sentimental thing for some fans. If they decided for the betterment of the team, that sitting Perry, considering he's got 206 playoff games of experience, a ring, been to the finals a bunch of times, he's big, he can mix it up, be a pest, plays a playoff style of hockey, and they thought their line up was better without, I can't see how Gagner is a better option over anyone else in the line up and I would dress Perry over Gagner.

As you said, I think there would have to be multiple injuries before Gagner got in. When Henrique is ready, one of Brown or Ryan will have to come out. Brown is a way better skater and very good on the PK. Ryan is very good on the PK and good on draws. I don't see how or why Gagner gets in.

I looked it up. To get your name on the cup, you need to have played at least 40 games in the regular season or 1 game in the final. Gagner only played 28 games. Now maybe if the Oilers were up 3-0 in the cup final, they might throw him in for 1 game just so he qualifies because I do think after this season he will retire and move into a player development role with the Oilers. I have read there was a job offer waiting for him. So if that is the case, maybe they throw him a bone so he gets on the cup.


MacT might have dressed up Gagner as the backup goalie in game 1 of the finals if we made it there.

Funny enough, both Perry and Gagner (x2) scored against dallas in our games against them this season. Gonna be a very different series. Smarts more than speed probably wins the day. Gotta think Perry gets back in. Gags probably if some guys have some weak games and just need a different look in the bottom 6.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:52

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:25

benv wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 14:05

Oiler lines at practice this morning (before heading out to Dallas):

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Henrique-Draisaitl-Holloway
Foegele-McLeod-Ryan
Janmark-Carrick-Brown
Gagner-Perry

Kane not on ice.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Desharnais
Kulak-Ceci


Good to see Henrique may be close to returning. Hopefully Kane's absence is just maintenance.

Still kind of hoping Gagner gets at least one game these playoffs--although it will probably take a couple injuries for it to happen; so maybe I'm not hoping for it.



What do you think Gagner would bring to the line up other than allow him to play in a playoff game wearing an Oilers jersey? I'm not meaning this to come at you, I am legit asking because I am all about winning and dressing the best guys to allow that to happen.

Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think dressing Gagner is straight up a sentimental thing for some fans. If they decided for the betterment of the team, that sitting Perry, considering he's got 206 playoff games of experience, a ring, been to the finals a bunch of times, he's big, he can mix it up, be a pest, plays a playoff style of hockey, and they thought their line up was better without, I can't see how Gagner is a better option over anyone else in the line up and I would dress Perry over Gagner.

As you said, I think there would have to be multiple injuries before Gagner got in. When Henrique is ready, one of Brown or Ryan will have to come out. Brown is a way better skater and very good on the PK. Ryan is very good on the PK and good on draws. I don't see how or why Gagner gets in.

I looked it up. To get your name on the cup, you need to have played at least 40 games in the regular season or 1 game in the final. Gagner only played 28 games. Now maybe if the Oilers were up 3-0 in the cup final, they might throw him in for 1 game just so he qualifies because I do think after this season he will retire and move into a player development role with the Oilers. I have read there was a job offer waiting for him. So if that is the case, maybe they throw him a bone so he gets on the cup.


MacT might have dressed up Gagner as the backup goalie in game 1 of the finals if we made it there.

Funny enough, both Perry and Gagner (x2) scored against dallas in our games against them this season. Gonna be a very different series. Smarts more than speed probably wins the day. Gotta think Perry gets back in. Gags probably if some guys have some weak games and just need a different look in the bottom 6.

When Henrique comes back, that means one of Ryan or Brown comes out. I don't see Carrick sitting, he was good in game 6 and 7. He brings some physical play, goes to the net, can kill penalties and is a right shot center that is good on draws. So that means you'd have one of Brown/Ryan and Perry available to swap out the bottom 6. I don't see how Gagner gets in over both of those.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:56

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:52

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:25

benv wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 14:05

Oiler lines at practice this morning (before heading out to Dallas):

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Henrique-Draisaitl-Holloway
Foegele-McLeod-Ryan
Janmark-Carrick-Brown
Gagner-Perry

Kane not on ice.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Desharnais
Kulak-Ceci


Good to see Henrique may be close to returning. Hopefully Kane's absence is just maintenance.

Still kind of hoping Gagner gets at least one game these playoffs--although it will probably take a couple injuries for it to happen; so maybe I'm not hoping for it.



What do you think Gagner would bring to the line up other than allow him to play in a playoff game wearing an Oilers jersey? I'm not meaning this to come at you, I am legit asking because I am all about winning and dressing the best guys to allow that to happen.

Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think dressing Gagner is straight up a sentimental thing for some fans. If they decided for the betterment of the team, that sitting Perry, considering he's got 206 playoff games of experience, a ring, been to the finals a bunch of times, he's big, he can mix it up, be a pest, plays a playoff style of hockey, and they thought their line up was better without, I can't see how Gagner is a better option over anyone else in the line up and I would dress Perry over Gagner.

As you said, I think there would have to be multiple injuries before Gagner got in. When Henrique is ready, one of Brown or Ryan will have to come out. Brown is a way better skater and very good on the PK. Ryan is very good on the PK and good on draws. I don't see how or why Gagner gets in.

I looked it up. To get your name on the cup, you need to have played at least 40 games in the regular season or 1 game in the final. Gagner only played 28 games. Now maybe if the Oilers were up 3-0 in the cup final, they might throw him in for 1 game just so he qualifies because I do think after this season he will retire and move into a player development role with the Oilers. I have read there was a job offer waiting for him. So if that is the case, maybe they throw him a bone so he gets on the cup.


MacT might have dressed up Gagner as the backup goalie in game 1 of the finals if we made it there.

Funny enough, both Perry and Gagner (x2) scored against dallas in our games against them this season. Gonna be a very different series. Smarts more than speed probably wins the day. Gotta think Perry gets back in. Gags probably if some guys have some weak games and just need a different look in the bottom 6.

When Henrique comes back, that means one of Ryan or Brown comes out. I don't see Carrick sitting, he was good in game 6 and 7. He brings some physical play, goes to the net, can kill penalties and is a right shot center that is good on draws. So that means you'd have one of Brown/Ryan and Perry available to swap out the bottom 6. I don't see how Gagner gets in over both of those.


Not impossible that one of those depth guys, Carrick included, as some rough games. Gotta see what happens. Sometimes helps to toss in a guy in mint condition and full of energy into the lineup, like with Carrick against the Canucks.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 17:00

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:56

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:52

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 16:25

benv wrote on Wed, 22 May 2024 14:05

Oiler lines at practice this morning (before heading out to Dallas):

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Henrique-Draisaitl-Holloway
Foegele-McLeod-Ryan
Janmark-Carrick-Brown
Gagner-Perry

Kane not on ice.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Desharnais
Kulak-Ceci


Good to see Henrique may be close to returning. Hopefully Kane's absence is just maintenance.

Still kind of hoping Gagner gets at least one game these playoffs--although it will probably take a couple injuries for it to happen; so maybe I'm not hoping for it.



What do you think Gagner would bring to the line up other than allow him to play in a playoff game wearing an Oilers jersey? I'm not meaning this to come at you, I am legit asking because I am all about winning and dressing the best guys to allow that to happen.

Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think dressing Gagner is straight up a sentimental thing for some fans. If they decided for the betterment of the team, that sitting Perry, considering he's got 206 playoff games of experience, a ring, been to the finals a bunch of times, he's big, he can mix it up, be a pest, plays a playoff style of hockey, and they thought their line up was better without, I can't see how Gagner is a better option over anyone else in the line up and I would dress Perry over Gagner.

As you said, I think there would have to be multiple injuries before Gagner got in. When Henrique is ready, one of Brown or Ryan will have to come out. Brown is a way better skater and very good on the PK. Ryan is very good on the PK and good on draws. I don't see how or why Gagner gets in.

I looked it up. To get your name on the cup, you need to have played at least 40 games in the regular season or 1 game in the final. Gagner only played 28 games. Now maybe if the Oilers were up 3-0 in the cup final, they might throw him in for 1 game just so he qualifies because I do think after this season he will retire and move into a player development role with the Oilers. I have read there was a job offer waiting for him. So if that is the case, maybe they throw him a bone so he gets on the cup.


MacT might have dressed up Gagner as the backup goalie in game 1 of the finals if we made it there.

Funny enough, both Perry and Gagner (x2) scored against dallas in our games against them this season. Gonna be a very different series. Smarts more than speed probably wins the day. Gotta think Perry gets back in. Gags probably if some guys have some weak games and just need a different look in the bottom 6.

When Henrique comes back, that means one of Ryan or Brown comes out. I don't see Carrick sitting, he was good in game 6 and 7. He brings some physical play, goes to the net, can kill penalties and is a right shot center that is good on draws. So that means you'd have one of Brown/Ryan and Perry available to swap out the bottom 6. I don't see how Gagner gets in over both of those.


Not impossible that one of those depth guys, Carrick included, as some rough games. Gotta see what happens. Sometimes helps to toss in a guy in mint condition and full of energy into the lineup, like with Carrick against the Canucks.


I think it's funny how low a bar people set with physical fourth liners. I mean, what exactly has Carrick brought? He's played in five games, he has one assist, he has ONE shot. He lands a few hits and the Edmonton media guys and some of the parrots around town will say that's a great fourth line game, but really, it's pretty meaningless. The best you can say for him is that he's only -1, so he's not playing like Josh Archibald a couple years ago but all he really gives you is 9-10 meaningless minutes a night.

Sam Gagner had 10 points in 28 games this year, pretty much all at even strength with bottom line linemates. Compare that to Brown (12 pts in 71 games, Janmark (also 12 in 71), Ryan (12 points in 70 games) and it's pretty clear that he adds a different element.

It's not like PK is that hard to sub someone else in, or that Connor Brown is adding an element that the team just can't live without. If anything the bottom six has been disappointing for their inability to produce in the post-season.

I will say, in response to one earlier comment, there is absolutely no world where you keep Connor Brown in over Ryan McLeod. Yes, McLeod's production is weak, and yeah, that was a bad giveaway, but he's tilting the ice at least when he's out there and has a ridiculously low PDO. The on-ice shooting percentage is something like 2% right now while he's out, so some of that is likely to re-balance at some point. Again, a guy who lays a few hits just doesn't have much value other than to eye-test only fans or Spector's 200 hockey men.



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The bench reaction at the end is pretty awesome

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Just saw that. No crutches and he is putting weight on it. In my uneducated medical opinion my brain goes to deep bone bruise.

Weeks to months of recovery and almost impossible to play through effectively. If he's back for game 5 then I might be able to dance by him on the ice, and he would be getting a slash every opportunity I would get.

Great news and a speedy recovery for the golf course. Tough to turn on a big drive with a bad hoof.



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Joe Pavelski did not officially announce his retirement, but he did say that it was “probably” his last season.


Pavelski was always an Oilers killer...won't be sad to have had the team help him get to retirement.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 04 June 2024 13:46

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Joe Pavelski did not officially announce his retirement, but he did say that it was “probably” his last season.


Pavelski was always an Oilers killer...won't be sad to have had the team help him get to retirement.


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