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 Re: 2022-2023 NHL Playoffs! [message #822528 is a reply to message #822209 ]
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per Stauffer.. Stone is OUT. for game 1..

Knights are still tough.. Defense will be under more forecheck pressure than the Kings 1-3-1.. but also open up the transition game which will suit McD and LD skill sets..



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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 13:39

per Stauffer.. Stone is OUT. for game 1..

Knights are still tough.. Defense will be under more forecheck pressure than the Kings 1-3-1.. but also open up the transition game which will suit McD and LD skill sets..



Saw Vegas twitter and Friedman that Stone is in

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
LV coach Bruce Cassidy says Mark Stone, Brayden McNabb and Shea Theodore will play tonight
Tip

z - Vegas Golden Knights @GoldenKnights
“They’re in.”

- Bruce Cassidy on Brayden McNabb, Shea Theodore and Mark Stone



Oh well, take them down. Get at LB early.



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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 12:44

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 13:39

per Stauffer.. Stone is OUT. for game 1..

Knights are still tough.. Defense will be under more forecheck pressure than the Kings 1-3-1.. but also open up the transition game which will suit McD and LD skill sets..



Saw Vegas twitter and Friedman that Stone is in

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
LV coach Bruce Cassidy says Mark Stone, Brayden McNabb and Shea Theodore will play tonight
Tip

z - Vegas Golden Knights @GoldenKnights
“They’re in.”

- Bruce Cassidy on Brayden McNabb, Shea Theodore and Mark Stone



Oh well, take them down. Get at LB early.


Oh.. interesting.. Stauffer's intel was about 15 minutes ago.. Stone must've have been a close call though.. Oilers just need to make Stone feel it every shift so he's thinking about it..

McNabb must've something as well.. hit 'em both hard and hit 'em often



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 Re: 2022-2023 NHL Playoffs! [message #822539 is a reply to message #822531 ]
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Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 13:50

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 12:44

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 13:39

per Stauffer.. Stone is OUT. for game 1..

Knights are still tough.. Defense will be under more forecheck pressure than the Kings 1-3-1.. but also open up the transition game which will suit McD and LD skill sets..



Saw Vegas twitter and Friedman that Stone is in

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
LV coach Bruce Cassidy says Mark Stone, Brayden McNabb and Shea Theodore will play tonight
Tip

z - Vegas Golden Knights @GoldenKnights
“They’re in.”

- Bruce Cassidy on Brayden McNabb, Shea Theodore and Mark Stone



Oh well, take them down. Get at LB early.


Oh.. interesting.. Stauffer's intel was about 15 minutes ago.. Stone must've have been a close call though.. Oilers just need to make Stone feel it every shift so he's thinking about it..

McNabb must've something as well.. hit 'em both hard and hit 'em often


My brother is a Physio and when he saw the video he said he has patients all the time that looked and walked just like Stone did and he thought no way he would play. He said he looked like the back muscles were in spasm and probably sending shooting pains down his leg. I guess if you give a guy enough drugs, maybe he goes.



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Is there a less ideal series NHL business wise than Canes - Devils?

The Devils are probably #3 out of the 3 New York City area teams. No one really cares about the Canes other than their fans.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 17:43

Is there a less ideal series NHL business wise than Canes - Devils?

The Devils are probably #3 out of the 3 New York City area teams. No one really cares about the Canes other than their fans.


I'd argue that the Isles are probably #3 with the bachelors of the Devils (including Taylor Hall at one pt) living in Hoboken which gives them a nice close up view of Manhattan.

Canes are wildly inconsistent (esp on the road) as I don't know if an aging Brent Burns is viable enough for a deeper run as the other half of their top D pairing alongside Slavin.

I expect the Devils to be looser playing with less nerves against the Canes opposed to the Rangers series involving all that media hype.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 16:25

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 13:50

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 12:44

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 03 May 2023 13:39

per Stauffer.. Stone is OUT. for game 1..

Knights are still tough.. Defense will be under more forecheck pressure than the Kings 1-3-1.. but also open up the transition game which will suit McD and LD skill sets..



Saw Vegas twitter and Friedman that Stone is in

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
LV coach Bruce Cassidy says Mark Stone, Brayden McNabb and Shea Theodore will play tonight
Tip

z - Vegas Golden Knights @GoldenKnights
“They’re in.”

- Bruce Cassidy on Brayden McNabb, Shea Theodore and Mark Stone



Oh well, take them down. Get at LB early.


Oh.. interesting.. Stauffer's intel was about 15 minutes ago.. Stone must've have been a close call though.. Oilers just need to make Stone feel it every shift so he's thinking about it..

McNabb must've something as well.. hit 'em both hard and hit 'em often


My brother is a Physio and when he saw the video he said he has patients all the time that looked and walked just like Stone did and he thought no way he would play. He said he looked like the back muscles were in spasm and probably sending shooting pains down his leg. I guess if you give a guy enough drugs, maybe he goes.


I don’t think Edmonton’s game plan changes much regardless of who’s dressed. Knights are physical and do nothing terrible, and nothing exceptional. Solid team. Edmonton can match the physical intensity, but can’t get goaded into taking penalties (which once again is my #1 fear).



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Game 2 is a little more important. Leafs came out on fire but let up after going up 2-0. Florida got 3 and Bobo shut the door.


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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 04 May 2023 20:42

Game 2 is a little more important. Leafs came out on fire but let up after going up 2-0. Florida got 3 and Bobo shut the door.


I'd love to make disparaging remarks about the Leafs but too concerned about the Oilers...



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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Thu, 04 May 2023 23:00

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 04 May 2023 20:42

Game 2 is a little more important. Leafs came out on fire but let up after going up 2-0. Florida got 3 and Bobo shut the door.


I'd love to make disparaging remarks about the Leafs but too concerned about the Oilers...


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I'll be honest. I am thinking the same when I bash the leafs tonight. But, I just bash them anyway :)



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Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me for Toronto to come back and win the next 4 straight. They're a lot better than I care to admit. I think they have just about as good a chance to win their series (still) as we have to win ours.



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Couple sound spankings of NJ by Carolina. Akira Schmid pulled 2 games in a row after a magic first round. May be no Ward/Bininington candidates this season.

Fully aware what NJ did last series, down 2 to win in 7. Carolina is beating them in every way pretty handily so far though.

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NJ with some spanking revenge. Fun game. Even Jesse mixing it up a bit. Hope that series goes 7.

Was talking to someone about what a good add Schenn would have been. Now just saw him jump at a puck and go directly into Samsonov, taking Samsonov out of the game. Changed my mind.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 20:56

NJ with some spanking revenge. Fun game. Even Jesse mixing it up a bit. Hope that series goes 7.

Was talking to someone about what a good add Schenn would have been. Now just saw him jump at a puck and go directly into Samsonov, taking Samsonov out of the game. Changed my mind.


That Canes / Devils game was weird. 8-4 final, with 3 of Carolina's 4 goals coming short-handed. The second two on the same Devils powerplay.



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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:18

That Canes / Devils game was weird. 8-4 final, with 3 of Carolina's 4 goals coming short-handed. The second two on the same Devils powerplay.


Plus the Devils had a SHG too. 4 in a game is crazy. And how do you give up 2 when you are up by 5 in the 3rd? Would think that would be "prevent" defense territory.

Got me wondering about SHG records as I figured that can't be too far off. Seems like they tied the record for most SHG in a game by both teams.

Most SHG by a single team in a game: 4 by the original Jets against the Canucks in 1995.

Most SHG by both teams in a game, also 4. Happened 12 times before last night. Almost all in the 80s and 90s.

Most SHG by a player in a game - Theo Fleury with 3 against the Blues in 1991. That's crazy.



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Mike wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 06:49

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:18

That Canes / Devils game was weird. 8-4 final, with 3 of Carolina's 4 goals coming short-handed. The second two on the same Devils powerplay.


Plus the Devils had a SHG too. 4 in a game is crazy. And how do you give up 2 when you are up by 5 in the 3rd? Would think that would be "prevent" defense territory.

Got me wondering about SHG records as I figured that can't be too far off. Seems like they tied the record for most SHG in a game by both teams.

Most SHG by a single team in a game: 4 by the original Jets against the Canucks in 1995.

Most SHG by both teams in a game, also 4. Happened 12 times before last night. Almost all in the 80s and 90s.

Most SHG by a player in a game - Theo Fleury with 3 against the Blues in 1991. That's crazy.


Speaking of playing short handed, have you ever followed this burnout on Twitter? I keep it around just so I feel better about myself.

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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 09:49

Mike wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 06:49

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:18

That Canes / Devils game was weird. 8-4 final, with 3 of Carolina's 4 goals coming short-handed. The second two on the same Devils powerplay.


Plus the Devils had a SHG too. 4 in a game is crazy. And how do you give up 2 when you are up by 5 in the 3rd? Would think that would be "prevent" defense territory.

Got me wondering about SHG records as I figured that can't be too far off. Seems like they tied the record for most SHG in a game by both teams.

Most SHG by a single team in a game: 4 by the original Jets against the Canucks in 1995.

Most SHG by both teams in a game, also 4. Happened 12 times before last night. Almost all in the 80s and 90s.

Most SHG by a player in a game - Theo Fleury with 3 against the Blues in 1991. That's crazy.


Speaking of playing short handed, have you ever followed this burnout on Twitter? I keep it around just so I feel better about myself.

DO. NOT. DO. DRUGS!!!! ... and with empathy I do feel bad for his SA as a teen.


I have some empathy for Theo. He went through some difficult things at a time when the general public was much less supportive of people going through those things. 20 years prior it would have been covered up and he wouldnt have to deal with fan’s abuse. 20 years later he would have been a survivor hero.



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Leafs down 0-3. Do they have some 1942 Leafs in them? Not seeing it.

Also, in your most desperate of times, still can't play Matthews even a microsecond on the PK? Matthews just chilling waiting to do his usual quiet float around try to poke pucks and drift into open spots for someone else to set him up act 5v5. One of the least intense elite players around.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 19:43

Leafs down 0-3. Do they have some 1942 Leafs in them? Not seeing it.

Also, in your most desperate of times, still can't play Matthews even a microsecond on the PK? Matthews just chilling waiting to do his usual quiet float around try to poke pucks and drift into open spots for someone else to set him up act 5v5. One of the least intense elite players around.


Why would you want the best ‘defensive’ centre in the league playing the PK?

Just listened to his post game interview. “Back against the wall”, “Can’t give up”..

Body language says I want to go golf. I’m done.



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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:56

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 19:43

Leafs down 0-3. Do they have some 1942 Leafs in them? Not seeing it.

Also, in your most desperate of times, still can't play Matthews even a microsecond on the PK? Matthews just chilling waiting to do his usual quiet float around try to poke pucks and drift into open spots for someone else to set him up act 5v5. One of the least intense elite players around.


Why would you want the best ‘defensive’ centre in the league playing the PK?

Just listened to his post game interview. “Back against the wall”, “Can’t give up”..

Body language says I want to go golf. I’m done.


Yes, that elite float and swoop in pocket pick game. Matthews the best there ever was or will be.

Not to say I'm a big proponent of skill guys on the PK, but man, most desperate to win game of the year, they come into the 3rd period with only 30 seconds of PK left. To me, that is a time you want to try to get a jump on a team, but there's 100% fresh Matthews, just chillin on the bench, just gonna wait for a shift later. There seems to be absolutely zero situations where Matthews can touch the ice on the PK.



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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:56

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 19:43

Leafs down 0-3. Do they have some 1942 Leafs in them? Not seeing it.

Also, in your most desperate of times, still can't play Matthews even a microsecond on the PK? Matthews just chilling waiting to do his usual quiet float around try to poke pucks and drift into open spots for someone else to set him up act 5v5. One of the least intense elite players around.


Why would you want the best ‘defensive’ centre in the league playing the PK?

Just listened to his post game interview. “Back against the wall”, “Can’t give up”..

Body language says I want to go golf. I’m done.

Looks like winning that first round series was their crowning achievement for this season, and now they're all but done.



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 02:03

inverno76 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:56

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 19:43

Leafs down 0-3. Do they have some 1942 Leafs in them? Not seeing it.

Also, in your most desperate of times, still can't play Matthews even a microsecond on the PK? Matthews just chilling waiting to do his usual quiet float around try to poke pucks and drift into open spots for someone else to set him up act 5v5. One of the least intense elite players around.


Why would you want the best ‘defensive’ centre in the league playing the PK?

Just listened to his post game interview. “Back against the wall”, “Can’t give up”..

Body language says I want to go golf. I’m done.

Looks like winning that first round series was their crowning achievement for this season, and now they're all but done.


Still haven't won a game in the 2nd round in 19 years. I've reminded a lot of my friends of that this morning :)



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 19:43

Leafs down 0-3. Do they have some 1942 Leafs in them? Not seeing it.

Also, in your most desperate of times, still can't play Matthews even a microsecond on the PK? Matthews just chilling waiting to do his usual quiet float around try to poke pucks and drift into open spots for someone else to set him up act 5v5. One of the least intense elite players around.


So did anyone hear how the Panthers' owner's horse did on Saturday?



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Adam wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 08:44

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 19:43

Leafs down 0-3. Do they have some 1942 Leafs in them? Not seeing it.

Also, in your most desperate of times, still can't play Matthews even a microsecond on the PK? Matthews just chilling waiting to do his usual quiet float around try to poke pucks and drift into open spots for someone else to set him up act 5v5. One of the least intense elite players around.


So did anyone hear how the Panthers' owner's horse did on Saturday?


Scratched a few hours before the race.

I just don't believe both US and Canadian TV networks were held hostage by the NHL owner with the least pull in the entire league. Something else must have happened to mess the schedule up.



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NetBOG wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 09:17

Adam wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 08:44

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 19:43

Leafs down 0-3. Do they have some 1942 Leafs in them? Not seeing it.

Also, in your most desperate of times, still can't play Matthews even a microsecond on the PK? Matthews just chilling waiting to do his usual quiet float around try to poke pucks and drift into open spots for someone else to set him up act 5v5. One of the least intense elite players around.


So did anyone hear how the Panthers' owner's horse did on Saturday?


Scratched a few hours before the race.

I just don't believe both US and Canadian TV networks were held hostage by the NHL owner with the least pull in the entire league. Something else must have happened to mess the schedule up.


I don't know - you have a billionaire who wants to be able to watch both his horse and his hockey team...I could kind of see it. It's probably pretty rare to have a horse in the Derby even for the ultra-rich.

From there, the networks would take over. Canadian networks would want to see one of the Canadian teams, and they'd want it in the prime-time Eastern time slot if possible. Really, shuffling back the Leafs and Oilers series by a day doesn't wreak that much havoc with the schedule which was never really fully set anyhow. And there's less conflicts to work around now, because all the teams that share their building with still-active NBA squads have been eliminated.

I understand there was one concert that needed to be re-scheduled, but it's not like it was U2 or Garth Brooks or anyone like that.

And it's nice for Vincent Viola that after the disappointment of having to scratch his horse from the Kentucky Derby that the Panthers gave him a bit of a consolation prize with their big win.



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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 20:57

Are the Kraken for real? They sure look like it.


Speed and puck movement.. and a hot goaltender.. (now 7-2 !) .. complete beat down.. Grubauer playing well.. Dallas is a bigger team but slower.. Hakstol is also a smart coach.. they operate a solid system with high efficiency.



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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:57

Are the Kraken for real? They sure look like it.


I like that Oettinger is looking beatable. One of the last goalies left I was worried could pull a Hellebuyck on us. Even Freddy Andersen got lit up, and we've done a number on him lots of times before.

Goalies are always unpredictable of course, but there is no truly proven elite goalie left in these playoffs. Bobo is on a nice run, but he's wildly inconsistent too, I think we could break him down.


Probably best case, Canes/Jersey and Dallas/Seattle go 7. Florida sweeps or wins in 5 and then go ice cold as they wait for round 3, lose all that mojo from the late season push and 2 good series. And of course lots of work for the Oilers left for any of that to matter :)

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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 22:13

inverno76 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:57

Are the Kraken for real? They sure look like it.


I like that Oettinger is looking beatable. One of the last goalies left I was worried could pull a Hellebuyck on us. Even Freddy Andersen got lit up, and we've done a number on him lots of times before.

Goalies are always unpredictable of course, but there is no truly proven elite goalie left in these playoffs. Bobo is on a nice run, but he's wildly inconsistent too, I think we could break him down.


Probably best case, Canes/Jersey and Dallas/Seattle go 7. Florida sweeps or wins in 5 and then go ice cold as they wait for round 3, lose all that mojo from the late season push and 2 good series. And of course lots of work for the Oilers left for any of that to matter :)


Yep. Tough to look past Vegas. Both teams have been Jekyll and Hyde. I’m much more confident after yesterday, but these playoffs are wide open and we are truly a threat to win it all.

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 01:13

I like that Oettinger is looking beatable. One of the last goalies left I was worried could pull a Hellebuyck on us. Even Freddy Andersen got lit up, and we've done a number on him lots of times before.

Goalies are always unpredictable of course, but there is no truly proven elite goalie left in these playoffs. Bobo is on a nice run, but he's wildly inconsistent too, I think we could break him down.


Probably best case, Canes/Jersey and Dallas/Seattle go 7. Florida sweeps or wins in 5 and then go ice cold as they wait for round 3, lose all that mojo from the late season push and 2 good series. And of course lots of work for the Oilers left for any of that to matter :)


I don't want to get ahead of myself, because like you say, there's still a lot of work left to do, but Oettinger was the last guy standing that I thought could go supernova on a team - nice to see him get lit up. But then like you say, over in the East, Bobo starting to look like a 2 time Vezina winner - 4 games in a row with over .917 (.932 over his last 4 games). A nice cooling off period might be good.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 22:13

inverno76 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:57

Are the Kraken for real? They sure look like it.


I like that Oettinger is looking beatable. One of the last goalies left I was worried could pull a Hellebuyck on us. Even Freddy Andersen got lit up, and we've done a number on him lots of times before.

Goalies are always unpredictable of course, but there is no truly proven elite goalie left in these playoffs. Bobo is on a nice run, but he's wildly inconsistent too, I think we could break him down.


Probably best case, Canes/Jersey and Dallas/Seattle go 7. Florida sweeps or wins in 5 and then go ice cold as they wait for round 3, lose all that mojo from the late season push and 2 good series. And of course lots of work for the Oilers left for any of that to matter :)

I always question teams who's success has a large part to do with their goalie playing unreal.

Boston had a fantastic season, one for the record books. Ullmark had runaway best stats in the NHL this year, his back up Swayman not far off. This playoff both were no where near as good and they lost. Was it all on the goaltending? Not all of it but the Bruins were the best team by a lot this year and lost when their goalies weren't all world. So was it the team played bad or did not having out of this world goaltending impact how the team played?

Ottenger was very good in the regular season, the playoffs not as dominate and the Stars are down in the series.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 14:20

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 22:13

inverno76 wrote on Sun, 07 May 2023 21:57

Are the Kraken for real? They sure look like it.


I like that Oettinger is looking beatable. One of the last goalies left I was worried could pull a Hellebuyck on us. Even Freddy Andersen got lit up, and we've done a number on him lots of times before.

Goalies are always unpredictable of course, but there is no truly proven elite goalie left in these playoffs. Bobo is on a nice run, but he's wildly inconsistent too, I think we could break him down.


Probably best case, Canes/Jersey and Dallas/Seattle go 7. Florida sweeps or wins in 5 and then go ice cold as they wait for round 3, lose all that mojo from the late season push and 2 good series. And of course lots of work for the Oilers left for any of that to matter :)

I always question teams who's success has a large part to do with their goalie playing unreal.

Boston had a fantastic season, one for the record books. Ullmark had runaway best stats in the NHL this year, his back up Swayman not far off. This playoff both were no where near as good and they lost. Was it all on the goaltending? Not all of it but the Bruins were the best team by a lot this year and lost when their goalies weren't all world. So was it the team played bad or did not having out of this world goaltending impact how the team played?

Ottenger was very good in the regular season, the playoffs not as dominate and the Stars are down in the series.


Sounds like you are saying that playing his subpar goaltending is actually a strength the Oilers have, and not a weakness!



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I think the biggest difference between the Leafs and Oilers and is something the Leafs have to addressed for them to ever move forward is their make up and more specifically their star players. You can have all the depth you want but if your stars don't show up, you won't play. They got 2 goals from depth guys and nothing from their stars and they lost.

I saw a tweet from Dom Luszcyszyn who lots on the stats community like to look too for his "model". He's a Leafs fan and has always said Leafs guys are better than Oilers based on his model. He tweeted Leon is better than Matthews based on the play and his adjusted model.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 11:28

Wow Leafs, just wow!

I think the biggest difference between the Leafs and Oilers and is something the Leafs have to addressed for them to ever move forward is their make up and more specifically their star players. You can have all the depth you want but if your stars don't show up, you won't play. They got 2 goals from depth guys and nothing from their stars and they lost.

I saw a tweet from Dom Luszcyszyn who lots on the stats community like to look too for his "model". He's a Leafs fan and has always said Leafs guys are better than Oilers based on his model. He tweeted Leon is better than Matthews based on the play and his adjusted model.

You don't say! You just figured that out now huh. icon_lol


Dom still has the Leafs with a 9% shot to win! In history, 4 teams out of 204 have pulled it off. The need for perfection 4 games in a row after you've already shown you kinda suck against your opponent (Leafs had a stinker IMO in game 3 for the most recent evidence) is quite an ask. Don't think the Leafs have just the goaltending alone to pull it off.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 13:54

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 11:28

Wow Leafs, just wow!

I think the biggest difference between the Leafs and Oilers and is something the Leafs have to addressed for them to ever move forward is their make up and more specifically their star players. You can have all the depth you want but if your stars don't show up, you won't play. They got 2 goals from depth guys and nothing from their stars and they lost.

I saw a tweet from Dom Luszcyszyn who lots on the stats community like to look too for his "model". He's a Leafs fan and has always said Leafs guys are better than Oilers based on his model. He tweeted Leon is better than Matthews based on the play and his adjusted model.

You don't say! You just figured that out now huh. icon_lol


Dom still has the Leafs with a 9% shot to win! In history, 4 teams out of 204 have pulled it off. The need for perfection 4 games in a row after you've already shown you kinda suck against your opponent (Leafs had a stinker IMO in game 3 for the most recent evidence) is quite an ask. Don't think the Leafs have just the goaltending alone to pull it off.


Well, if they did come back, they'd have a decent chance of winning it all still. I mean, if everyone was at 12.5% at the start of the round, 9% is showing a significant reduction...especially since I believe his models had the Leafs as the best chance going in to the series. Presumably the model doesn't really believe in the Panthers as a legitimate threat to win the Cup.

- Maple Leafs in 1942 won the Cup - they were down 0-3 in the Finals.
- Islanders in 1975 had their comeback in the second round, and then came within one game of the Finals, losing to the eventual champion Flyers in 7 games.
- The Flyers comeback in 2010 also happened in Round 2, and they made it all the way to the Finals before they lost to Chicago.
- The Kings were the only first round comeback, and they went all the way and won the Cup.

So if they DO come back, from the looks of it, they'd have a pretty good shot of going deep...

I don't think they will. I think they could be done tomorrow night. But it's not out of the realm of possibility.

I do think that there's some issues with that model that are becoming evident though - the Flames chances staying so strong right up until their elimination showed that, and this probably is more evidence. For what it's worth, I don't think he's cooking the numbers to show favourably to his preferred teams though.

I think when the Flyers beat the Bruins they went a couple rounds and then were out.



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Adam wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 14:56

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 13:54

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 11:28

Wow Leafs, just wow!

I think the biggest difference between the Leafs and Oilers and is something the Leafs have to addressed for them to ever move forward is their make up and more specifically their star players. You can have all the depth you want but if your stars don't show up, you won't play. They got 2 goals from depth guys and nothing from their stars and they lost.

I saw a tweet from Dom Luszcyszyn who lots on the stats community like to look too for his "model". He's a Leafs fan and has always said Leafs guys are better than Oilers based on his model. He tweeted Leon is better than Matthews based on the play and his adjusted model.

You don't say! You just figured that out now huh. icon_lol


Dom still has the Leafs with a 9% shot to win! In history, 4 teams out of 204 have pulled it off. The need for perfection 4 games in a row after you've already shown you kinda suck against your opponent (Leafs had a stinker IMO in game 3 for the most recent evidence) is quite an ask. Don't think the Leafs have just the goaltending alone to pull it off.


Well, if they did come back, they'd have a decent chance of winning it all still. I mean, if everyone was at 12.5% at the start of the round, 9% is showing a significant reduction...especially since I believe his models had the Leafs as the best chance going in to the series. Presumably the model doesn't really believe in the Panthers as a legitimate threat to win the Cup.

- Maple Leafs in 1942 won the Cup - they were down 0-3 in the Finals.
- Islanders in 1975 had their comeback in the second round, and then came within one game of the Finals, losing to the eventual champion Flyers in 7 games.
- The Flyers comeback in 2010 also happened in Round 2, and they made it all the way to the Finals before they lost to Chicago.
- The Kings were the only first round comeback, and they went all the way and won the Cup.

So if they DO come back, from the looks of it, they'd have a pretty good shot of going deep...

I don't think they will. I think they could be done tomorrow night. But it's not out of the realm of possibility.

I do think that there's some issues with that model that are becoming evident though - the Flames chances staying so strong right up until their elimination showed that, and this probably is more evidence. For what it's worth, I don't think he's cooking the numbers to show favourably to his preferred teams though.

I think when the Flyers beat the Bruins they went a couple rounds and then were out.


I imagine an average team by his model would be sitting around 2-3% to come back from 0-3. Probably the same kind of favoring at work that had the Lames with a great shot at playoffs when they were back half a dozen points or so (how they proceeded to choke a game vs the Coyotes really messed that all up).

Dom has some work to do I think. His individual player models had some wild results. Like Giordano being calcuated as providing 7.2M of value, a 6.3M surplus! But...he was playing 3rd pair minutes against the weak comp. How the heck do you believe someone is providing 7.2M of value when you only have that to go off? Lots of headscratchers like that.

I don't think he's favoring too much. Although what you put value on can just have some inherent bias. Saw that with those Evolving Wild bros that somehow had all their models set up so that Nino Niederreiter and various other wild players looked like gods, which happened to lead to 26 point Nichushkin being a Hart candidate playing 10-15 mins a night (a lot like the Giordano result Dom got), and Drai being the worst defensive player of all time.

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Welp...Bedard to the Hawks...unless he goes full whiny and says "I'll only play for the Canucks" lol.

I think this incentivizes a Patty Kane return to the Hawks too btw

Funny how Anaheim committed to Dallas Eakins for 4 full seasons only not to get Bedard....



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kungpaobenji27 wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 22:06

Welp...Bedard to the Hawks...unless he goes full whiny and says "I'll only play for the Canucks" lol.

I think this incentivizes a Patty Kane return to the Hawks too btw

Funny how Anaheim committed to Dallas Eakins for 4 full seasons only not to get Bedard....


I could not imagine a player complaining about getting their start on an original 6 team. Columbus or Arizona, I wouldn't blame him, but not sure he is the type that would regardless :)



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 22:08

kungpaobenji27 wrote on Mon, 08 May 2023 22:06

Welp...Bedard to the Hawks...unless he goes full whiny and says "I'll only play for the Canucks" lol.

I think this incentivizes a Patty Kane return to the Hawks too btw

Funny how Anaheim committed to Dallas Eakins for 4 full seasons only not to get Bedard....


I could not imagine a player complaining about getting their start on an original 6 team. Columbus or Arizona, I wouldn't blame him, but not sure he is the type that would regardless :)

I am very glad he didn't go to Arizona. They don't deserve anything and need to get out of there plus the idea of having a Bedard play on a rink that is smaller than a lot of junior rinks makes the NHL look even more bush league that it is in that market. I think Chicago for Bedard was the worst team to go too hockey wise because they have the least amount to work with since they just started tearing it down. Market wise, it's good.



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Well this NJ/Carolina series blows, NJ in process of being blown out for the 3rd time in the series. Rangers had a winning record vs Carolina this year, kinda wish they made it through to keep it interesting.


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