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well, I didn't predict THAT score. god


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All Stu tonight.


Horrid effort by almost everyone else. Makes up for game 2. Better have a whale of a game to close it out at home.



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That should make the rest of the league take notice. That was a defensive effort like I have not seen from this team. Wave Towel


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Iamheretoday wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:12

That should make the rest of the league take notice. That was a defensive effort like I have not seen from this team. Wave Towel

Bit of a fire drill on many occasions.

Got er done though.



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Iamheretoday wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:12

That should make the rest of the league take notice. That was a defensive effort like I have not seen from this team. Wave Towel


Hehe. I think part of it was LA kinds blows. They were mishandling pucks and messing up their chances, even with them being on the attack most of the game. I think we get destroyed playing like this against a good offensive team.

Oh well though. We are playing LA and who knows if we would play so low energy against a team that actually has a high talent level. We like to play based on the competition.

[Updated on: Sun, 28 April 2024 23:19]


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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:16

Iamheretoday wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:12

That should make the rest of the league take notice. That was a defensive effort like I have not seen from this team. Wave Towel


Hehe. I think part of it was LA kinds blows. They were mishandling pucks and messing up their chances, even with them being on the attack most of the game. I think we get destroyed playing like this against a good offensive team.

Oh well though. We are playing LA and who knows if we would play so low energy against a team that actually has a high talent level. We like to play based on the competition.



Some times you need to give credit where credit is due. LA heavily outshot Edmonton. LA had very few scoring chances and when they did Skinner stood tall.

That was a gutsy playoff win. Can’t always be domination. To win the Cup, you need to win games in Ms y different ways.

Enjoy the Dub. Well deserved and that game translates.



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Vinnie improved as game wore on.

Strong 3rd period by him.



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Pretty much everyone and their dog has zero trust in Skinner.

What a game. 1st star, and if he’s not recognized then whatever. Brick wall. Looked unflappable.



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Skinner has put his mark on the series. Phenomenal game.


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smyth260 wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:17

Skinner has put his mark on the series. Phenomenal game.

Yes.

Only 1 goal against on Friday too.



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That PP we scored on was one of the most BS calls I've seen, but they missed some blatant ones later on, so whatever.

Lucky to get away with that one. I thought Nurse & Vinny had huge games defensively. Ekholm too.

I can't remember the last time we goalied a team. Happened against us plenty of times though. Thanks for the win Stu!



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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:22

That PP we scored on was one of the most BS calls I've seen, but they missed some blatant ones later on, so whatever.

Lucky to get away with that one. I thought Nurse & Vinny had huge games defensively. Ekholm too.

I can't remember the last time we goalied a team. Happened against us plenty of times though. Thanks for the win Stu!


Phantom high stick call was a nice even up, hehe.

Refs just can't help but get themselves involved.

Agree about the D. Garbage game offensively but lots of good plays by D in our end, and some forwards. We somehow were experts at just getting pucks out over our blue line tonight. Our completely inept offense demanded a lot of defensive play tonight. Was good enough to survive against the Kings and their 1 line team. Somehow Mikey Anderson one of the most dangerous Kings tonight.

[Updated on: Sun, 28 April 2024 23:25]


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We've won playing pretty, we've battled and now badly and still won...
All bodes well going forward.



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2 day rest.

Come out hard on Wednesday and get rid of these dirtbags.

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I think I read a quote from Ekholm where he said that in the playoffs to have success you have to win some games you don't deserve. This was one of those tonight. When was the last time the Oilers won a Gane 1-0, or even lost a game 1-0?


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Hot damn

https://forums.hfboards.com/attachments/img_3339-jpeg.861638/

Ceci was one of the D that was in just pure panic mode from start to finish. Desharnais took over the key defensive responsibilities on the right and did well.

[Updated on: Sun, 28 April 2024 23:47]


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Disturbing stat, but it felt like the high scoring chances weren’t far off. Can you bring up that stat? Not being a jerk. It just seems like you have your ear to the grindstone and I’m lazy.

Seemed like many of LA’s chances were perimeter plays.



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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:47

Disturbing stat, but it felt like the high scoring chances weren’t far off. Can you bring up that stat? Not being a jerk. It just seems like you have your ear to the grindstone and I’m lazy.

Seemed like many of LA’s chances were perimeter plays.



14 to 4 high danger chances. Ceci was on for 11 of them against. 8 against the danault line.

Kopitar line mostly against bouch/Ek and only got 1 high danger chance with that matchup.

[Updated on: Sun, 28 April 2024 23:50]


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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:48

inverno76 wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:47

Disturbing stat, but it felt like the high scoring chances weren’t far off. Can you bring up that stat? Not being a jerk. It just seems like you have your ear to the grindstone and I’m lazy.

Seemed like many of LA’s chances were perimeter plays.



14 to 4 high danger chances. Ceci was on for 11 of them against. 8 against the danault line.

Kopitar line mostly against bouch/Ek and only got 1 high danger chance with that matchup.


Really ugly game. Nice to pull it out, but there's a few things they were doing tonight that I'd rather not see them do anymore.

They were pretty passive in their forecheck all night, and they just never seemed to have a lot of urgency for the other team's net, despite facing a crappy back-up goalie. Lots of talk in the game thread about McDavid trying to dangle their whole team, but he's not getting the support to do much else. We weren't attacking in numbers tonight.

LA is a much worse team, so you'd ideally like to see them just put the throttle down and dominate. This game seemed like we were trying to play the same defensive shut down game that the Kings did, and I'm not a fan. We were one shot away from overtime with that inferior team all night.

Also, Knoblauch occasionally makes some just head-scratching decisions. Derek Ryan isn't good enough to be on the ice in the first three games, left off for Sam Carrick, who's as just-a-guy as they come. So why is he on the ice in the final minute of the game? He's not in my top 8 or 9 picks for who should have got that push.

Oh well, the main thing is that we won and we're now maybe just 60 minutes of hockey away from the second round...



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inverno76 wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:47

Disturbing stat, but it felt like the high scoring chances weren’t far off. Can you bring up that stat? Not being a jerk. It just seems like you have your ear to the grindstone and I’m lazy.

Seemed like many of LA’s chances were perimeter plays.



Gregor says sportlogiq stats say high danger chances were 7 to 4 for the Oilers. I'm not sure if that makes sense to me. I hope the Oilers don't see that stat.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 00:22

inverno76 wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:47

Disturbing stat, but it felt like the high scoring chances weren’t far off. Can you bring up that stat? Not being a jerk. It just seems like you have your ear to the grindstone and I’m lazy.

Seemed like many of LA’s chances were perimeter plays.



Gregor says sportlogiq stats say high danger chances were 7 to 4 for the Oilers. I'm not sure if that makes sense to me. I hope the Oilers don't see that stat.


I can't confirm if that stat is correct but watching the whole game.
- The Kings definitely were pressing more and were by far the more desperate team.
- The Kings had the puck in the Oilers zone more.
- I saw the Kings doing a ton of twirls around the net, going up and down the wall and battles in the corner.
- They did grossly outshoot the Oilers but there was a ton of long range shots and shots from the side boards that Skinner had to make routine saves on.
- They were trying to direct the puck towards the goal from the point a lot but I saw a ton of pucks getting blocked, hitting bodies or just laying in the area between the blue line and hash marks and the Oilers just gobbled them up and got the puck out.
- They were clearing trying to throw pucks into the scrum in front and hoping a guy got a stick on it or it hit someone and went in.

I can remember Skinner having to make 4 for sure really good saves (I would assume those were the high dangers scored) but I don't remember him looking like he's standing on his head all game and the only reason they won. He was no doubt good and if someone just looked at the game shots, they would think he stole one but the Kings at least to me, they were sure intent on just throwing it on goal hoping for a rebound. I saw lots of shots where rather than try to challenge the Oilers and taking it to the goal, they fired it long range with no screen.

It begs the question to me. Is how the Kings played a good idea, meaning throwing it on goal no matter from where or is it better to try and make plays like the Oilers did? I thought last night, the Oilers were clearly trying to make plays and weren't interested in just throwing it on goal. I would have liked them to play that style mostly as I see just firing a shot on goal that has no chance of going in unless the goalie misses it as losing possession but maybe not passing up as many shots as they did would be better and maybe taking a little more of what the Kings were giving them.



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Kr55 wrote on Sun, 28 April 2024 23:42

Hot damn

https://forums.hfboards.com/attachments/img_3339-jpeg.861638/

Ceci was one of the D that was in just pure panic mode from start to finish. Desharnais took over the key defensive responsibilities on the right and did well.

Not sure where you got that stat from but does that stat single out quality shot attempts vs just any shot attempt?

In my opinion, while in a perfect world, your defense is so good, the other team doesn't even cross the blueline. But in reality, the job of the Dman is to make it so the opposition doesn't get uncontested shots from great scoring spots.

So if the Kings are driving the zone and Nurse - Ceci defend it so the Kings can barely get over the blueline and all he can do (which the Kings players were doing) is fling the puck on goal from distance with no screen, that would count as a shot attempt against. Or I saw Nurse - Ceci pairing keeping the Kings player against the boards, not allowing much inside and the King player as they were going into the corner would fling the puck on Skinner which he would scoop up for an easy save. That's a shot attempt against.

So I am just asking if that stat indicates quality shots against vs just a shot because there is a big difference. If a dman gives the forward nothing but long range/ no scoring angle, no chance of scoring shot all game, he's done his job. But if you dislike Nurse - Ceci, a person will ignore that stat and just focus on shot against.

I also believe that the Leon line with Nurse and Ceci were typically up against the the Kopitar line who seemed to be the only liine that was actually trying to score most shifts. McD's line who I think Ekholm - Bouch play with mostly, had the Danault line who in my opinion seemed pretty focused on just stopping McD.



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How are some who were worried about Skinner after game 2 feeling now?

A poster in here said after his 14 career playoff games, he was almost the worst playoff goalie in the NHL since the early 2000's.

After the 2 games in LA where he gave up 1 goal, 2.48 and .919. So that's good right?



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 11:51

How are some who were worried about Skinner after game 2 feeling now?

A poster in here said after his 14 career playoff games, he was almost the worst playoff goalie in the NHL since the early 2000's.

After the 2 games in LA where he gave up 1 goal, 2.48 and .919. So that's good right?



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I stated a fact. The fact has now changed slightly - he was worst in both save % and GAA on the cap era. On the strength of the last 2 games he has now moved ahead of Kari Lehtonen for the 2nd worst save % i(still last for GAA). No spin - just facts. Don't let them hurt your feelings too much.

Let me remind you that I am the founding member of the Skinner booster club here. Nobody wants to see him succeed more than me. But he sucked for the most part in the playoffs last year, and he wasn't great the first 2 games here. And I don't want the team (and certain "fans") to get stuck in this mindset that the starter's role is set for the playoffs regardless of performance, as it obviously was last year.

As for this game - Skinner maybe didn't need to be prime Hasek last night, but he was solid. Made all the stops we expect him to make, plus a few very good ones. Certainly has looked better the last 2 games. Let's hope he keep it up. Another 15 game win streak would be perfect.



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So was that one of the shortest games ever? Puck drop was close to midnight here, but it was over at around 2:00, or shortly after.


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Mike wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 12:42

So was that one of the shortest games ever? Puck drop was close to midnight here, but it was over at around 2:00, or shortly after.

Yeah, not many stoppages or scrums after the whistle at all. I think I was in bed by 2:30.



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Mike wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 09:22

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 11:51

How are some who were worried about Skinner after game 2 feeling now?

A poster in here said after his 14 career playoff games, he was almost the worst playoff goalie in the NHL since the early 2000's.

After the 2 games in LA where he gave up 1 goal, 2.48 and .919. So that's good right?



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I stated a fact. The fact has now changed slightly - he was worst in both save % and GAA on the cap era. On the strength of the last 2 games he has now moved ahead of Kari Lehtonen for the 2nd worst save % i(still last for GAA). No spin - just facts. Don't let them hurt your feelings too much.

Let me remind you that I am the founding member of the Skinner booster club here. Nobody wants to see him succeed more than me. But he sucked for the most part in the playoffs last year, and he wasn't great the first 2 games here. And I don't want the team (and certain "fans") to get stuck in this mindset that the starter's role is set for the playoffs regardless of performance, as it obviously was last year.

As for this game - Skinner maybe didn't need to be prime Hasek last night, but he was solid. Made all the stops we expect him to make, plus a few very good ones. Certainly has looked better the last 2 games. Let's hope he keep it up. Another 15 game win streak would be perfect.


We can agree to disagree if you like but I think basing your opinion on if a goalie can or can't do it in the playoffs when at the time of your post, he only had 14 career playoffs games ever and 12 of them were from his first year as an NHL start, in my opinion is kind of short sighted.

1 year in the playoffs isn't a ton of experience in my opinion. So I felt he deserved the benefit of the doubt longer than 2 games this year before throwing up the red flag of having a problem. He played extremely well in the next 2 games. Does that mean he's going to win the Conn Smyth? No but it indicates to me, he has the ability to play very well in the playoffs. The big thing now is he needs to show he can keep doing it. We shall see.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 10:30

Mike wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 09:22

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 11:51

How are some who were worried about Skinner after game 2 feeling now?

A poster in here said after his 14 career playoff games, he was almost the worst playoff goalie in the NHL since the early 2000's.

After the 2 games in LA where he gave up 1 goal, 2.48 and .919. So that's good right?



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I stated a fact. The fact has now changed slightly - he was worst in both save % and GAA on the cap era. On the strength of the last 2 games he has now moved ahead of Kari Lehtonen for the 2nd worst save % i(still last for GAA). No spin - just facts. Don't let them hurt your feelings too much.

Let me remind you that I am the founding member of the Skinner booster club here. Nobody wants to see him succeed more than me. But he sucked for the most part in the playoffs last year, and he wasn't great the first 2 games here. And I don't want the team (and certain "fans") to get stuck in this mindset that the starter's role is set for the playoffs regardless of performance, as it obviously was last year.

As for this game - Skinner maybe didn't need to be prime Hasek last night, but he was solid. Made all the stops we expect him to make, plus a few very good ones. Certainly has looked better the last 2 games. Let's hope he keep it up. Another 15 game win streak would be perfect.


We can agree to disagree if you like but I think basing your opinion on if a goalie can or can't do it in the playoffs when at the time of your post, he only had 14 career playoffs games ever and 12 of them were from his first year as an NHL start, in my opinion is kind of short sighted.

1 year in the playoffs isn't a ton of experience in my opinion. So I felt he deserved the benefit of the doubt longer than 2 games this year before throwing up the red flag of having a problem. He played extremely well in the next 2 games. Does that mean he's going to win the Conn Smyth? No but it indicates to me, he has the ability to play very well in the playoffs. The big thing now is he needs to show he can keep doing it. We shall see.


Can't go crazy giving a final say on what players are or will do with our play against LA. This should be the 3rd time we outclass this team. We had adjustment issues each time we faced them, but in the end, we beat them pretty convincingly each time when we actually played like we can, and hopefully we do it again in game 5.

Where all our team issues come up and where we see if we fixed them come later against the really good playoff teams. No luck coming like we had in 2006. It looks likely we will have to play 3 very very good teams this year for a chance to win it all. Likely round 2, a team that owned us in the regular season. Round 3, one of 2 teams that beat us and really picked us apart and exposed our weaknesses last 2 playoffs, then went on to win a cup. Don't even want to think about finals lol.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 13:30

We can agree to disagree if you like but I think basing your opinion on if a goalie can or can't do it in the playoffs when at the time of your post, he only had 14 career playoffs games ever and 12 of them were from his first year as an NHL start, in my opinion is kind of short sighted.


You want to "agree to disagree" on objective measures? Uhm...ok. icon_rolleyes I disagree that today is Monday then. confused2

Again, in case you missed it again: I AM A SKINNER FAN...I truly hope he posts 13 more shutouts. Up until Game 2, his playoff body of work left a lot to be desired. The last 2 games were a lot better. Certainly very encouraging. Maybe he's a member here and took my disappointment personally icon_lol

Ironically I felt he was a bigger factor in game 3 than last night's shutout. Last night he made a few good saves, but mostly steady start to finish. In game 3 he was huge in shutting the door late in the first and early in the 2nd to not give the Kings any life. Anyway - good couple of outings - keep it going.



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Mike wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 11:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 13:30

We can agree to disagree if you like but I think basing your opinion on if a goalie can or can't do it in the playoffs when at the time of your post, he only had 14 career playoffs games ever and 12 of them were from his first year as an NHL start, in my opinion is kind of short sighted.


You want to "agree to disagree" on objective measures? Uhm...ok. icon_rolleyes I disagree that today is Monday then. confused2

Again, in case you missed it again: I AM A SKINNER FAN...I truly hope he posts 13 more shutouts. Up until Game 2, his playoff body of work left a lot to be desired. The last 2 games were a lot better. Certainly very encouraging. Maybe he's a member here and took my disappointment personally icon_lol

Ironically I felt he was a bigger factor in game 3 than last night's shutout. Last night he made a few good saves, but mostly steady start to finish. In game 3 he was huge in shutting the door late in the first and early in the 2nd to not give the Kings any life. Anyway - good couple of outings - keep it going.


I'll say it one last time and it doesn't matter if you are supposedly a "Skinner fan" or not. I disagree with your sample size.

I do not think the sample size you were using, which at the time of this original debate was 14 games, is not enough to come to the conclusion or raise a red flag the Oilers might have a problem in goal or that Skinner can't do well in the playoffs. Which is what you said.

As I also said multiple times now, 12 of his 14 games of experience at the time of this original debate was last year, his rookie season. So regardless of your "facts" that you listed with the stats. I do not think that small of a sample size is enough to come to the conclusion that you did that the Oilers might have a problem.

Skinner in the last 2 games, in my opinion, helped back up my point that the sample size you were using wasn't big enough because he was outstanding in the last 2 games. So it's clear in my opinion, he has the ability to be a good goalie in the playoffs. What he has to do now, to drive home the point that he's capable of doing it, is continue the good play.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 15:20

Mike wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 11:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 13:30

We can agree to disagree if you like but I think basing your opinion on if a goalie can or can't do it in the playoffs when at the time of your post, he only had 14 career playoffs games ever and 12 of them were from his first year as an NHL start, in my opinion is kind of short sighted.


You want to "agree to disagree" on objective measures? Uhm...ok. icon_rolleyes I disagree that today is Monday then. confused2

Again, in case you missed it again: I AM A SKINNER FAN...I truly hope he posts 13 more shutouts. Up until Game 2, his playoff body of work left a lot to be desired. The last 2 games were a lot better. Certainly very encouraging. Maybe he's a member here and took my disappointment personally icon_lol

Ironically I felt he was a bigger factor in game 3 than last night's shutout. Last night he made a few good saves, but mostly steady start to finish. In game 3 he was huge in shutting the door late in the first and early in the 2nd to not give the Kings any life. Anyway - good couple of outings - keep it going.


I'll say it one last time and it doesn't matter if you are supposedly a "Skinner fan" or not. I disagree with your sample size.

I do not think the sample size you were using, which at the time of this original debate was 14 games, is not enough to come to the conclusion or raise a red flag the Oilers might have a problem in goal or that Skinner can't do well in the playoffs. Which is what you said.

As I also said multiple times now, 12 of his 14 games of experience at the time of this original debate was last year, his rookie season. So regardless of your "facts" that you listed with the stats. I do not think that small of a sample size is enough to come to the conclusion that you did that the Oilers might have a problem.

Skinner in the last 2 games, in my opinion, helped back up my point that the sample size you were using wasn't big enough because he was outstanding in the last 2 games. So it's clear in my opinion, he has the ability to be a good goalie in the playoffs. What he has to do now, to drive home the point that he's capable of doing it, is continue the good play.


So you think Skinner is the greatest playoff goalie in the history of the NHL. That’s fine.

You like to disagree with facts - that’s fine too.

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Mike wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 12:27

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 15:20

Mike wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 11:30

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 13:30

We can agree to disagree if you like but I think basing your opinion on if a goalie can or can't do it in the playoffs when at the time of your post, he only had 14 career playoffs games ever and 12 of them were from his first year as an NHL start, in my opinion is kind of short sighted.


You want to "agree to disagree" on objective measures? Uhm...ok. icon_rolleyes I disagree that today is Monday then. confused2

Again, in case you missed it again: I AM A SKINNER FAN...I truly hope he posts 13 more shutouts. Up until Game 2, his playoff body of work left a lot to be desired. The last 2 games were a lot better. Certainly very encouraging. Maybe he's a member here and took my disappointment personally icon_lol

Ironically I felt he was a bigger factor in game 3 than last night's shutout. Last night he made a few good saves, but mostly steady start to finish. In game 3 he was huge in shutting the door late in the first and early in the 2nd to not give the Kings any life. Anyway - good couple of outings - keep it going.


I'll say it one last time and it doesn't matter if you are supposedly a "Skinner fan" or not. I disagree with your sample size.

I do not think the sample size you were using, which at the time of this original debate was 14 games, is not enough to come to the conclusion or raise a red flag the Oilers might have a problem in goal or that Skinner can't do well in the playoffs. Which is what you said.

As I also said multiple times now, 12 of his 14 games of experience at the time of this original debate was last year, his rookie season. So regardless of your "facts" that you listed with the stats. I do not think that small of a sample size is enough to come to the conclusion that you did that the Oilers might have a problem.

Skinner in the last 2 games, in my opinion, helped back up my point that the sample size you were using wasn't big enough because he was outstanding in the last 2 games. So it's clear in my opinion, he has the ability to be a good goalie in the playoffs. What he has to do now, to drive home the point that he's capable of doing it, is continue the good play.


So you think Skinner is the greatest playoff goalie in the history of the NHL. That’s fine.

You like to disagree with facts - that’s fine too.

Merry Christmas!


Way to completely make up absolute lies about what I said.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 12:20


Skinner in the last 2 games, in my opinion, helped back up my point that the sample size you were using wasn't big enough because he was outstanding in the last 2 games. So it's clear in my opinion, he has the ability to be a good goalie in the playoffs.


"My sample size of two is better than yours of fourteen"

Don't go planning the Conn Smythe debate already because he's doing well against a team the Oilers dominate regularly.



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JPro wrote on Tue, 30 April 2024 11:07

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 12:20


Skinner in the last 2 games, in my opinion, helped back up my point that the sample size you were using wasn't big enough because he was outstanding in the last 2 games. So it's clear in my opinion, he has the ability to be a good goalie in the playoffs.


"My sample size of two is better than yours of fourteen"

Don't go planning the Conn Smythe debate already because he's doing well against a team the Oilers dominate regularly.


This made me LOL

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JPro wrote on Tue, 30 April 2024 11:07

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 April 2024 12:20


Skinner in the last 2 games, in my opinion, helped back up my point that the sample size you were using wasn't big enough because he was outstanding in the last 2 games. So it's clear in my opinion, he has the ability to be a good goalie in the playoffs.


"My sample size of two is better than yours of fourteen"

Don't go planning the Conn Smythe debate already because he's doing well against a team the Oilers dominate regularly.

Again, not what I said what so ever. I said the 2 games he just played showed he has the capability to play well in the playoffs. Then said right after. The next thing I said he needs to do is to show he can do it again and again.

Feel free to actually READ what I said vs immediately making up complete lies.



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