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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826156 is a reply to message #826155 ]
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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826157 is a reply to message #826155 ]
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Holloway is just never allowed into the top 6 eh?



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826158 is a reply to message #826157 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:37

Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer
The @EdmontonOilers
in Minnesota:

Kane-Draisaitl-Janmark
Foegele-RNH-Hyman
Holloway-McLeod-Brown
Erne-Ryan

Nurse-Ceci
Ekholm-Bouchard
Kulak-Broberg/Desharnais

Campbell
Skinner



Holloway is just never allowed into the top 6 eh?

What's wrong with playing with the players they have him with? That has the makings of one hell of a line that should be going up against other teams 3rd lines and 3rd pairing dmen and do some serious damage.

Just optics being the problem?



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826160 is a reply to message #826158 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:47

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:37

Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer
The @EdmontonOilers
in Minnesota:

Kane-Draisaitl-Janmark
Foegele-RNH-Hyman
Holloway-McLeod-Brown
Erne-Ryan

Nurse-Ceci
Ekholm-Bouchard
Kulak-Broberg/Desharnais

Campbell
Skinner



Holloway is just never allowed into the top 6 eh?

What's wrong with playing with the players they have him with? That has the makings of one hell of a line that should be going up against other teams 3rd lines and 3rd pairing dmen and do some serious damage.

Just optics being the problem?

I see a couple problems. I'd be asking who is more likely to score on the wing with Kane and Draisaitl? Janmark who normally plays center or Holloway? With McDavid out the Oilers have to think about where the points will come from. I also don't see the current third turning into a line of any real importance. Yes, it's a small sample size but their old school stats are a combined 0 points with a -8. I'm not all that worried about keeping them together especially if it means sacrificing potential first line scoring during the games where they'll need it the most.

It makes more sense to me to put Brown up on the first to see if he's worth the 3.2 million of cap space he's going to eat up next season, but that's the next coach and GM's problem. Lastly I'll mention the horrible management who constructed a team where any injury would leave the lines looking like this. Bad luck, I suppose.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826161 is a reply to message #826160 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 11:19

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:47

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:37

Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer
The @EdmontonOilers
in Minnesota:

Kane-Draisaitl-Janmark
Foegele-RNH-Hyman
Holloway-McLeod-Brown
Erne-Ryan

Nurse-Ceci
Ekholm-Bouchard
Kulak-Broberg/Desharnais

Campbell
Skinner



Holloway is just never allowed into the top 6 eh?

What's wrong with playing with the players they have him with? That has the makings of one hell of a line that should be going up against other teams 3rd lines and 3rd pairing dmen and do some serious damage.

Just optics being the problem?

I see a couple problems. I'd be asking who is more likely to score on the wing with Kane and Draisaitl? Janmark who normally plays center or Holloway? With McDavid out the Oilers have to think about where the points will come from. I also don't see the current third turning into a line of any real importance. Yes, it's a small sample size but their old school stats are a combined 0 points with a -8. I'm not all that worried about keeping them together especially if it means sacrificing potential first line scoring during the games where they'll need it the most.

It makes more sense to me to put Brown up on the first to see if he's worth the 3.2 million of cap space he's going to eat up next season, but that's the next coach and GM's problem. Lastly I'll mention the horrible management who constructed a team where any injury would leave the lines looking like this. Bad luck, I suppose.


Why do you have to be so mean about the management? Who could expect a GM with 30+ years experience to prepare for a scenario where his team has injury issues? Or goalie issues? or defence issues?

I'm still struggling to understand why we felt that what we really needed more than anything after last season was another winger? I mean, that roster is essentially the same one from last year. We've just replaced Yamamoto, Puljujarvi and Kostin with Brown, Holloway and Erne. The team must really have believed they were just unlucky to lose to Vegas. I think the management also has bought in to this myth that since we lost the last couple years to the eventual Cup Champions, that that has some meaning. It doesn't. We were flattened by Colorado in 2022 - maybe their easiest series, in big part because our goaltending couldn't stop a beach ball. And we didn't do much better last year against Vegas - again in big part because of goaltending. So naturally we got a couple more forwards!



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826163 is a reply to message #826161 ]
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Adam wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 11:32


Why do you have to be so mean about the management? Who could expect a GM with 30+ years experience to prepare for a scenario where his team has injury issues? Or goalie issues? or defence issues?

I'm still struggling to understand why we felt that what we really needed more than anything after last season was another winger? I mean, that roster is essentially the same one from last year. We've just replaced Yamamoto, Puljujarvi and Kostin with Brown, Holloway and Erne. The team must really have believed they were just unlucky to lose to Vegas. I think the management also has bought in to this myth that since we lost the last couple years to the eventual Cup Champions, that that has some meaning. It doesn't. We were flattened by Colorado in 2022 - maybe their easiest series, in big part because our goaltending couldn't stop a beach ball. And we didn't do much better last year against Vegas - again in big part because of goaltending. So naturally we got a couple more forwards!

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The GM put the coach in a really bad position here. There is an argument to made about Brown, Holloway, or Janmark (not really Janmark) in the top 6. The problem is those are all less than optimum choices rights now. Even Foegele up there is questionable. But who replaces him? Holloway probably can't do it right now and Brown is still a mystery, we don't know if he can. So that leave Janmark and Foegele, I guess. Go Oil.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826167 is a reply to message #826163 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 11:48

Adam wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 11:32


Why do you have to be so mean about the management? Who could expect a GM with 30+ years experience to prepare for a scenario where his team has injury issues? Or goalie issues? or defence issues?

I'm still struggling to understand why we felt that what we really needed more than anything after last season was another winger? I mean, that roster is essentially the same one from last year. We've just replaced Yamamoto, Puljujarvi and Kostin with Brown, Holloway and Erne. The team must really have believed they were just unlucky to lose to Vegas. I think the management also has bought in to this myth that since we lost the last couple years to the eventual Cup Champions, that that has some meaning. It doesn't. We were flattened by Colorado in 2022 - maybe their easiest series, in big part because our goaltending couldn't stop a beach ball. And we didn't do much better last year against Vegas - again in big part because of goaltending. So naturally we got a couple more forwards!

Holland hit on my girlfriend at Cactus Club in Kelowna, so I run him down on the internet.


The GM put the coach in a really bad position here. There is an argument to made about Brown, Holloway, or Janmark (not really Janmark) in the top 6. The problem is those are all less than optimum choices rights now. Even Foegele up there is questionable. But who replaces him? Holloway probably can't do it right now and Brown is still a mystery, we don't know if he can. So that leave Janmark and Foegele, I guess. Go Oil.


That damn hound dog Holland!

Honestly, I think I could wrap my head around the issues at forward if we had improved some other area of the team. The fact is, this is the one area where Holland decided he needed to tinker, and it's still looks mediocre. Goaltending looked atrocious and still is costing us games. This season, we've been out-goalied in 4 of 5 games...not coincidentally, the same 5 we lost. If we had just adequate goaltending, we probably should be at least 3-2-0 rather than 1-3-1.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826162 is a reply to message #826160 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 11:19

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:47

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:37

Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer
The @EdmontonOilers
in Minnesota:

Kane-Draisaitl-Janmark
Foegele-RNH-Hyman
Holloway-McLeod-Brown
Erne-Ryan

Nurse-Ceci
Ekholm-Bouchard
Kulak-Broberg/Desharnais

Campbell
Skinner



Holloway is just never allowed into the top 6 eh?

What's wrong with playing with the players they have him with? That has the makings of one hell of a line that should be going up against other teams 3rd lines and 3rd pairing dmen and do some serious damage.

Just optics being the problem?

I see a couple problems. I'd be asking who is more likely to score on the wing with Kane and Draisaitl? Janmark who normally plays center or Holloway? With McDavid out the Oilers have to think about where the points will come from. I also don't see the current third turning into a line of any real importance. Yes, it's a small sample size but their old school stats are a combined 0 points with a -8. I'm not all that worried about keeping them together especially if it means sacrificing potential first line scoring during the games where they'll need it the most.

It makes more sense to me to put Brown up on the first to see if he's worth the 3.2 million of cap space he's going to eat up next season, but that's the next coach and GM's problem. Lastly I'll mention the horrible management who constructed a team where any injury would leave the lines looking like this. Bad luck, I suppose.


damn it, Brown. 4 more games and he is taking our entire cap increase next year. Can we be jerks and waive/demote him? I do not like the cost benefit of that acquisition right now.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826164 is a reply to message #826162 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 11:41

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 11:19

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:47

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:37

Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer
The @EdmontonOilers
in Minnesota:

Kane-Draisaitl-Janmark
Foegele-RNH-Hyman
Holloway-McLeod-Brown
Erne-Ryan

Nurse-Ceci
Ekholm-Bouchard
Kulak-Broberg/Desharnais

Campbell
Skinner



Holloway is just never allowed into the top 6 eh?

What's wrong with playing with the players they have him with? That has the makings of one hell of a line that should be going up against other teams 3rd lines and 3rd pairing dmen and do some serious damage.

Just optics being the problem?

I see a couple problems. I'd be asking who is more likely to score on the wing with Kane and Draisaitl? Janmark who normally plays center or Holloway? With McDavid out the Oilers have to think about where the points will come from. I also don't see the current third turning into a line of any real importance. Yes, it's a small sample size but their old school stats are a combined 0 points with a -8. I'm not all that worried about keeping them together especially if it means sacrificing potential first line scoring during the games where they'll need it the most.

It makes more sense to me to put Brown up on the first to see if he's worth the 3.2 million of cap space he's going to eat up next season, but that's the next coach and GM's problem. Lastly I'll mention the horrible management who constructed a team where any injury would leave the lines looking like this. Bad luck, I suppose.


damn it, Brown. 4 more games and he is taking our entire cap increase next year. Can we be jerks and waive/demote him? I do not like the cost benefit of that acquisition right now.

I'd certainly be doing everything I can to find out what Brown is and is capable of right now. Of course the Oilers are so tight to the cap for some reason that if they do demote him they probably can't afford to replace him. Shrug. It was impossible to see this as an outcome.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826165 is a reply to message #826160 ]
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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 11:19

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:47

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:37

Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer
The @EdmontonOilers
in Minnesota:

Kane-Draisaitl-Janmark
Foegele-RNH-Hyman
Holloway-McLeod-Brown
Erne-Ryan

Nurse-Ceci
Ekholm-Bouchard
Kulak-Broberg/Desharnais

Campbell
Skinner



Holloway is just never allowed into the top 6 eh?

What's wrong with playing with the players they have him with? That has the makings of one hell of a line that should be going up against other teams 3rd lines and 3rd pairing dmen and do some serious damage.

Just optics being the problem?

I see a couple problems. I'd be asking who is more likely to score on the wing with Kane and Draisaitl? Janmark who normally plays center or Holloway? With McDavid out the Oilers have to think about where the points will come from. I also don't see the current third turning into a line of any real importance. Yes, it's a small sample size but their old school stats are a combined 0 points with a -8. I'm not all that worried about keeping them together especially if it means sacrificing potential first line scoring during the games where they'll need it the most.

It makes more sense to me to put Brown up on the first to see if he's worth the 3.2 million of cap space he's going to eat up next season, but that's the next coach and GM's problem. Lastly I'll mention the horrible management who constructed a team where any injury would leave the lines looking like this. Bad luck, I suppose.

I agree, I am not a fan of Janmark up there. Maybe it's a defensive guy to help Kane and Leon who sometimes aren't that defensively responsible. That being said, to date, Holloway hasn't lit it up offensively yet to tell me he's able to score in the top 6 going up against Minnie's best line and best d pairing which will be the case with McD out. Leon will face the other teams best.

So that is why I'd like to see him stay where he's at for now. Hopefully get his scoring mojo going, going up against other teams 3rd lines and 3rd pairings.



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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826159 is a reply to message #826157 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 10:37

Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer
The @EdmontonOilers
in Minnesota:

Kane-Draisaitl-Janmark
Foegele-RNH-Hyman
Holloway-McLeod-Brown
Erne-Ryan

Nurse-Ceci
Ekholm-Bouchard
Kulak-Broberg/Desharnais

Campbell
Skinner



Holloway is just never allowed into the top 6 eh?


Maybe if he complains about his role in a TV interview?



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This would be a great time for McLeod to take a step forward. Only 3 shots in 5 games. I was hoping he would come out and be more assertive by using his size and speed to take more pucks to the goal. He should be going up against other teams 3rd pairings so I'd think he'd have an advantage.


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 Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826172 is a reply to message #826170 ]
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I'm fully expecting this game to be a train wreck rout. Sorry gang... but this team has looked like a tired, unmotivated and uninspired group so far.

I'm guessing a 6 - 1 blowout.



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Oilers w/o McD vs Wild[ 7 vote(s) ]
1.Absolute crap show.. play even worse than previous games.. get slaughtered..Loss 1 / 14%
2.Keep it close.. Loss 2 / 29%
3.Some players step up.. Cambell plays good.. for a while..get a lead.. then fold like a cheap lawn chair in a tornado.. Loss 1 / 14%
4.Players step up.. Campbell plays big.. squeak out a Victory.. Win 2 / 29%
5.Players step up big.. roll over Wild handily.. Win 1 / 14%

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