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  Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #673317]
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NetBOG  is currently offline NetBOG
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FINAL RANK: 52 MIDTERM RANK: 46
POSITION: Defenseman SHOOTS: Left
HEIGHT: 6' 4" WEIGHT: 198
BORN: June 8, 1998
BORN IN: Kuopio, FIN

SEASON TEAM LEAGUE GP G A P PIM
2015-2016 SAGINAW OHL 65 1 26 27 28
2015-2016 FIN (2016 IIHF U18 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP) ITLTOUR 7 0 1 1 6
2015-2016 FIN U18 (IVAN HLINKA MEMORIAL 2015) ITLTOUR 5 0 2 2 6
2014-2015 HPK JR. FINLAND-JR. 39 2 14 16 28
2014-2015 FIN (2015 IIHF U18 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP) ITLTOUR 7 0 0 0 0
2014-2015 HPK U18 FINLAND-JR. U18 4 0 2 2 0
2014-2015 FIN U18 (5 NATIONS TOURNAMENT IN ZUCHWIL 2014) ITLTOUR 4 0 1 1 0
2014-2015 FIN U18 (5 NATIONS IN KRAVARE & PORUBA 2015) ITLTOUR 4 0 0 0 2
2013-2014 TAPPARA U18 FINLAND-JR. U18 40 3 11 14 14



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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #673319 is a reply to message #673317 ]
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A complete all-around defenceman that makes the game look easy. Natural size and strength compliment his smooth stride. Very mobile skater who moves up and down the ice quickly, with acute recognition of puck and body position. His maturity and poise is actualized in his high-percentage decision-making, with and without the puck, as well as his proactive stick and body play. Very stable defensively and always takes his lane, but is quick to rush the puck up the ice as he recognizes and accounts for how much time his team is spending in their own end. All-in-all, a quick-thinking defenceman that, honestly lacking nothing, has the potential to develop into a reliable two-way defenceman. - Curtis Joe - Elite Prospects


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Markus Niemelainen is mainly a defensive defender, but there are hints that a better offensive game may be lurking under the surface. He does have a hard slap shot, though he does not use it enough, and he needs to work on getting it on net and through traffic. He also has a heavy wrist shot, but could use some work on his release. As mentioned above he does make a good breakout pass and starts the transition that way. As the season went along and he became more confident, Niemelainen showed better puck skills, including poise when handling the puck at the blue line. - Last Word on Sports



When you get all set to watch the game, and within 10 minutes the Oilers are losing:

http://i59.tinypic.com/2wd0gth.gif

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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #673324 is a reply to message #673319 ]
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Besides being a left handed shot he fills in many ticky boxes. By the time he's ready to play in the NHL hopefully we are t still harping RH shots on the blueline.


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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #673325 is a reply to message #673324 ]
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I really like this pick. Big smooth skating puck mover who was a top 4 guy for Finland at world juniors. Give him 3-4 years to develope that frame & his skill set & I think we have a 5-6 future dman here.


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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #673330 is a reply to message #673325 ]
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I'm loving the Euro picks. Gives the big club the option to develop overseas or in the AHL next year. More options.




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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #673332 is a reply to message #673330 ]
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inverno76 wrote on Sat, 25 June 2016 09:39

I'm loving the Euro picks. Gives the big club the option to develop overseas or in the AHL next year. More options.




Ya I definately agree with your statement. Even though Klefbom was a higher selection he had time to simmer & smooth out the parts of his game that needed development.



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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #714845 is a reply to message #673332 ]
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....looks like he's going back into the entry draft...doesn't seem to be on the development fast track...

https://www.tsn.ca/report-oilers-prospect-likely-to-re-enter -draft-1.1091877

..."Niemelainen, who was drafted 63rd overall in 2016, was ranked by TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie as the 38th best player in his draft year.

"Steady, positional type defensive defenceman. Makes plays with puck, but doesn’t get outside his capabilities. Closes ice and doesn't give much room inside dots and is weighty, but not punishing," TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button wrote in April, 2016." ....

.....too bad....used to be Finns and the Oilers would grow together.....doesn't seem like the hockey gods are letting this happen nowadays...




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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #714855 is a reply to message #714845 ]
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GabbyDugan wrote on Tue, 22 May 2018 13:49

....looks like he's going back into the entry draft...doesn't seem to be on the development fast track...

https://www.tsn.ca/report-oilers-prospect-likely-to-re-enter -draft-1.1091877

..."Niemelainen, who was drafted 63rd overall in 2016, was ranked by TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie as the 38th best player in his draft year.

"Steady, positional type defensive defenceman. Makes plays with puck, but doesn’t get outside his capabilities. Closes ice and doesn't give much room inside dots and is weighty, but not punishing," TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button wrote in April, 2016." ....

.....too bad....used to be Finns and the Oilers would grow together.....doesn't seem like the hockey gods are letting this happen nowadays...


It's a shame too...He's 6'6 at 19...you'd love to see one of the big men work out for the Oilers every so often. Ever since Beukeboum & Smith patrolled the blueline, I loved the idea of a giant who can actually play being on the blueline. Even in beer league guys like that are annoying to play against with ridiculous wingspans.



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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #714863 is a reply to message #714855 ]
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Saw a few tweets mentioning his name today, looks like we still have his rights for a little bit longer.

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CapFriendly
‏ @CapFriendly

CapFriendly Retweeted Larry Fisher

We've received many asking us why Markus Niemelainen is not on our list.

- He was drafted out of the OHL in 2016 giving EDM a 2 yr window
- After yr 1 he was given a bona fide offer
- He then left the OHL in yr 2 for Europe which extended EDM's window to sign him to June 1, 2020


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Jim Matheson
‏ @NHLbyMatty

Oilers have 2016 third-rounder Markus Niemelainen's rights until 2020 because while he was a Euro drafted out of OHL he went back to Finland last season. He won't be in the 2018 draft as an unsigned player. His game has to get much better to get signed however




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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #734399 is a reply to message #714863 ]
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this guy has fallen quickly and is a fringe player in Europe now


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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #734402 is a reply to message #734399 ]
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steve.kreys wrote on Fri, 29 March 2019 11:33

this guy has fallen quickly and is a fringe player in Europe now


So hard to tell without more information on the player. My guess is that no one here has seen him play at all, and European stats are hard to project to NHL ones. For comparison, Klefbom's SEL numbers didn't look impressive at all - 7 points in 67 games over three years.

He may be a bust, he may be a guy who's here and contributing to the NHL team two years from now. I just don't have enough data to really know.



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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #734405 is a reply to message #734402 ]
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Adam wrote on Fri, 29 March 2019 11:49

steve.kreys wrote on Fri, 29 March 2019 11:33

this guy has fallen quickly and is a fringe player in Europe now


So hard to tell without more information on the player. My guess is that no one here has seen him play at all, and European stats are hard to project to NHL ones. For comparison, Klefbom's SEL numbers didn't look impressive at all - 7 points in 67 games over three years.

He may be a bust, he may be a guy who's here and contributing to the NHL team two years from now. I just don't have enough data to really know.



He has been playing on the third line and riding the pine in close games.



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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #734419 is a reply to message #734405 ]
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I thought he was a defenceman ... interesting that he's now playing a 3rd-line role.


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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #734422 is a reply to message #734419 ]
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AndersonRules wrote on Fri, 29 March 2019 13:19

I thought he was a defenceman ... interesting that he's now playing a 3rd-line role.


Everything I see suggests that he's still a defenceman. He played in 50 of 60 regular season games for them, and it's not that surprising if he's down the lineup given that he's a kid...he's only just 20 now.

I believe his team is up 3-1 in their playoff series (although the article I saw was in Finnish, so I could be wrong) and Niemelainen has played in all the post-season games.

I'm not going to write this one off just yet.



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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #734460 is a reply to message #734419 ]
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AndersonRules wrote on Fri, 29 March 2019 13:19

I thought he was a defenceman ... interesting that he's now playing a 3rd-line role.




computer computer computer computer


there are 2 Dmen who play on the third line--ergo--playing third line when not riding the bench. The last TOI I saw for him had him playing 12 to 14 minutes a night



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 Re: Oilers select 3rd rd (#63) - Markus Niemelainen [message #736843 is a reply to message #734460 ]
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steve.kreys wrote on Sat, 30 March 2019 12:00

AndersonRules wrote on Fri, 29 March 2019 13:19

I thought he was a defenceman ... interesting that he's now playing a 3rd-line role.




computer computer computer computer


there are 2 Dmen who play on the third line--ergo--playing third line when not riding the bench. The last TOI I saw for him had him playing 12 to 14 minutes a night


I think most people refer to lines for forwards and pairings for defencemen. The 3rd pairing defence doesn't necessarily have to be out there with the 3rd forward line.



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