| Oilers aquire Jarry [message #848927] |
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 oilfan94
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Reporting now on TSN.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/oilers-acquiring-g-jarry-from -penguins/
Kulak, Skinner, and a 2nd rounder going the other way. They also acquired Spencer Stastney from Nashville for a 3rd round pick.
Its the end of an era for Skinner. I think he goes on to have a long career mostly as a back up from this point on. I hope Jarry is the answer here. He wasn't great last year but has rebounded this season and was pretty consistent for the years before last. I don't know much about his style, so maybe someone else can speak to that. Skinner playing well the last few games probably helped to get this deal done.
Spencer Stastney has played 81 career games and is having his best season so far. He has never played a full NHL season though, so hopefully he is with the 3rd rounder that was given up.
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NZ Oiler Fan
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Wow! Skinner, Kulak & a 2nd rounder going back. Got Sam Poulin (who?) as part of the trade as well. Assume he'll be AHL bound.
edit: Looks like we got Spencer Stastney from Nashville for a 3rd rounder too. Wonder how we can fit him in cap-wise?
Jarry for Kulak & Skinner is pretty much a wash in terms of cap hit
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tardigrade81
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Wow!!!! This is huge !!
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HamBlaster
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Poulin's been a really good soldier down with the WBS Pens, and is pretty talented. Bowman and co have been brutal at identifying current NHL talent to bring in, however they have loaded up the prospect cupboard with some real possibilities. Poulin has really nice hands, good offensive numbers and can skate.
Stastney is a former USNDP grad (same period as Emberson). Was very well regarded during his time there and with Notre Dame. I think he's like Kulak. Versatile, good skater, probably hints at more to his game being available however generally fairly solid. On a brutal Preds team, he seems to be keeping his head above water. That bodes well.
I think all of these acquisitions were solid.
Let's be real for a moment. It was time for the Stu rollercoaster to move on; it was a confidence killer for the team when he'd bottom out. Sure, he could be more than excellent at times, but those efforts were too often followed up with disastrous outings.
Skinner's save percentage has been sub .900 for a few years now and was continuing to drop. Jarry's having a bounce back year and has only had one sub-par season in the last five. Solid move... better lateral goalie and is more athletic. Also very good at playing the puck.
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 Kr55
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Wowzers. Skinner helped us out a bit here with his recent play.
Well. Can’t say Bowman doesn’t have balls. Holland would have used skinners recent play as an excuse to do nothing.
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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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oilfan94
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Looks like Sam Poulin also coming to the Oilers in the trade. 1st Round pick from 2019 with a few NHL games, but never made any impact. Solid AHL numbers, so good for Bakersfield. Should help them when the Oilers inevitably call up Howard or Hudson this season.
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Wow. Our D was already thin so not liking giving up Kulak. I really hope Jarry is an upgrade on Skinner.
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| nullterm wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 12:04 |
Wow. Our D was already thin so not liking giving up Kulak. I really hope Jarry is an upgrade on Skinner.
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Presumably they figure Stastney can assume those minutes
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Kr55
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| NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 09:06 |
| nullterm wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 12:04 |
Wow. Our D was already thin so not liking giving up Kulak. I really hope Jarry is an upgrade on Skinner.
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Presumably they figure Stastney can assume those minutes
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Sounds like another great skating D, to replace the smooth skating Kulak. His analytics are pretty good, we probably worked hard to pick him out to target to give us a cheaper replacement for Kulak. Hopefully he can step right in and be good on a 3rd pair.
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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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oilfan94
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Penguins fans seem to love the deal and are glad to be rid of Jarry. I know he isn't perfect, but his numbers are pretty good outside of last season. Are we all missing something here?
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Kr55
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| oilfan94 wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 09:25 |
Penguins fans seem to love the deal and are glad to be rid of Jarry. I know he isn't perfect, but his numbers are pretty good outside of last season. Are we all missing something here?
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Fans of losing or long struggling teams usually hate their goalies.
Couldn't ask for a more perfect test case than this goalie swap. Jarry has played pretty well this year. If he comes here and becomes a sub 0.900 goalie ... might be time to blow this team up! And imagine if Skinner starts playing 0.910+ for the Pens. Of course if both goalies just keep performing similar to before, hat tip to Mr. Bowman. Should be interesting!
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Jay
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Kulak and a second included and no salary retained??
Massive overpay. Hopefully Jarry can stay healthy bring it in the pressure packed playoffs..
I would have been happy with this package for Binnington but this seems like a huge risk
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Kr55
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| Jay wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 10:27 |
Kulak and a second included and no salary retained??
Massive overpay. Hopefully Jarry can stay healthy bring it in the pressure packed playoffs..
I would have been happy with this package for Binnington but this seems like a huge risk
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If Jarry was having a bad year we probably could have got some retention. We are the beggars this time of year.
Yeah Jarry has to stay healthy now or we are in a world of hurt. Still need another goalie if Pickard is going to keep playing as poorly as he has this year. Ingram experiment still not working out in the AHL.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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mightyreasoner
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 10:31 |
Still need another goalie if Pickard is going to keep playing as poorly as he has this year. Ingram experiment still not working out in the AHL.
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Wonder what Kochetkov (or Andersson) would cost out of Carolina with the emergence of Brandon Bussi and the three-goalie situation they are in right now.
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Adam
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 09:40 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 09:25 |
Penguins fans seem to love the deal and are glad to be rid of Jarry. I know he isn't perfect, but his numbers are pretty good outside of last season. Are we all missing something here?
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Fans of losing or long struggling teams usually hate their goalies.
Couldn't ask for a more perfect test case than this goalie swap. Jarry has played pretty well this year. If he comes here and becomes a sub 0.900 goalie ... might be time to blow this team up! And imagine if Skinner starts playing 0.910+ for the Pens. Of course if both goalies just keep performing similar to before, hat tip to Mr. Bowman. Should be interesting!
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His playoff stats aren't stellar (although very small sample size of 8 games and most in a single year). He hasn't been in the post-season for a long time too - the last time he played was his only post-season appearance of 2021-22, losing game 7 of round 1 in OT to the Rangers. The year before he struggled in six games against the Islanders.
I suspect there's some lingering doubt about the goalie after last year where he was waived and sent to the minors. Given that and his big salary, it is a little surprising the Pens got as much for him as they did - although the Oilers had to make the salaries work so needed to send someone like Kulak whether he's coveted by Pittsburgh or not.
I don't mind the blueline getting a little bit younger. Kulak has not been as steady this year and at 31 his trajectory is only going to go downhill. I don't know much about this Stastney guy, but he's 25. If he can be a steady defender, then we're probably doing okay on that swap.
The second and third round picks? Meh. None of that matters to the McDavid window, which is all that matters now. I was probably hoping for a more surprising acquisition of someone who's clearly better - but it is probably an upgrade. And the farm guy adds some more scoring punch on Bakersfield. Hopefully one of those guys can bring some offence up to the bottom 6 at some point.
I do agree that we really need to upgrade our backup position too. Even if Jarry plays well, I don't want to see him start 80-90% of the games because Pickard isn't up to the task. Skinner's actually been by far the better of the two this year despite his well-documented challenges. I do wish Ingram's numbers were better in the AHL. 10 starts, 3-5-2, 3.76GAA, .878 sv%. Not amazing.
While on the topic of goalies, I wish we were playing Jonsson in the AHL. He's 5-1-1 in the ECHL with .911 and 2.08 GAA. It's so far below the NHL that it's hard to know if it's translatable though.
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Kr55
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Skinner picks it up for playoffs in end of season garbage time, then needs the backup to bail him out every 1st or 2nd round :) (or is just left to lose miserably if Woodcroft is the coach)
Wonder how these stats reflect Jarry getting injured as seasons go on, and having to play things out dealing with something. Think injury thing is the biggest gamble here.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 12:07 |
| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 09:40 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 09:25 |
Penguins fans seem to love the deal and are glad to be rid of Jarry. I know he isn't perfect, but his numbers are pretty good outside of last season. Are we all missing something here?
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Fans of losing or long struggling teams usually hate their goalies.
Couldn't ask for a more perfect test case than this goalie swap. Jarry has played pretty well this year. If he comes here and becomes a sub 0.900 goalie ... might be time to blow this team up! And imagine if Skinner starts playing 0.910+ for the Pens. Of course if both goalies just keep performing similar to before, hat tip to Mr. Bowman. Should be interesting!
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His playoff stats aren't stellar (although very small sample size of 8 games and most in a single year). He hasn't been in the post-season for a long time too - the last time he played was his only post-season appearance of 2021-22, losing game 7 of round 1 in OT to the Rangers. The year before he struggled in six games against the Islanders.
I suspect there's some lingering doubt about the goalie after last year where he was waived and sent to the minors. Given that and his big salary, it is a little surprising the Pens got as much for him as they did - although the Oilers had to make the salaries work so needed to send someone like Kulak whether he's coveted by Pittsburgh or not.
I don't mind the blueline getting a little bit younger. Kulak has not been as steady this year and at 31 his trajectory is only going to go downhill. I don't know much about this Stastney guy, but he's 25. If he can be a steady defender, then we're probably doing okay on that swap.
The second and third round picks? Meh. None of that matters to the McDavid window, which is all that matters now. I was probably hoping for a more surprising acquisition of someone who's clearly better - but it is probably an upgrade. And the farm guy adds some more scoring punch on Bakersfield. Hopefully one of those guys can bring some offence up to the bottom 6 at some point.
I do agree that we really need to upgrade our backup position too. Even if Jarry plays well, I don't want to see him start 80-90% of the games because Pickard isn't up to the task. Skinner's actually been by far the better of the two this year despite his well-documented challenges. I do wish Ingram's numbers were better in the AHL. 10 starts, 3-5-2, 3.76GAA, .878 sv%. Not amazing.
While on the topic of goalies, I wish we were playing Jonsson in the AHL. He's 5-1-1 in the ECHL with .911 and 2.08 GAA. It's so far below the NHL that it's hard to know if it's translatable though.
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Jarry seems like a 50 games max guy in his career so far. Definitely puts Pickard in a tough spot now if he doesn't have his game together. I really hope Jarry gets some health luck this year for us.
Hard to be confident about anything right now, but I still think that finally breaking this marriage we had with Skinner at the very least lights a proper fire under management to be active with goaltending again. At the worst we are Colorado having to make goalie moves and scout properly to solidify the position. That's better than being lazy and married to someone that turns into a huge issue every year.
Season is officially exciting again, I might actually be watching some full games again to see what Jarry does.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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Even outside the McDavid window... we suck at drafting outside the 1st round anyway. Trade them all for NHL players.
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I would have wrote sooner about Jarry but I suffered a lower body injury writing it. Seems to happen quite a bit when I write about Jar... happened again..
Skinner should have been a solid number two, he was trust into the number one spot when he wasn't ready and got tainted by poor management. Should have left the tandem alone if there wasn't a good option.
Kulak, going to miss him, is Stansney better? I don't know. Nashville has been a tirefire.
Bowman is a terrible GM, these moves are lateral at best and consumes even more cap space.
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
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Kr55
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| Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 10:41 |
I would have wrote sooner about Jarry but I suffered a lower body injury writing it. Seems to happen quite a bit when I write about Jar... happened again..
Skinner should have been a solid number two, he was trust into the number one spot when he wasn't ready and got tainted by poor management. Should have left the tandem alone if there wasn't a good option.
Kulak, going to miss him, is Stansney better? I don't know. Nashville has been a tirefire.
Bowman is a terrible GM, these moves are lateral at best and consumes even more cap space.
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Probably could have had Jarry much cheaper plus with retention if we traded for him in the summer. That would have looked like an insane risk though. There is a benefit to seeing what goalies are playing well into a season too.
I don’t know if replacing Skinner with someone playing well in net this year can be considered just lateral by default. Did we forget skinner mentally melting down twice last playoffs? Once the year before and again the year before that? How long can we keep gambling on a “starter” that mentally shuts down again and again when it matters most?
Should have addressed this years ago of course. New GM again gets to use the excuse of needing to understand his team and feels things out. It’s annoying as heck. But at least the effort was made now and I am not going to miss Skinner much. If Jarry is struggling, then we are forced to try again this summer. Basically like Colorado who just kept trying to find goalies again and again and now have 2 guys playing like solid starters. I’d take that over just sitting on hands with Holland.
If Holland was still GM, Skinner might have been inking his extension with us right now because of 2 weeks of finally playing well this season.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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mightyreasoner
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 11:02 |
I don’t know if replacing Skinner with someone playing well in net this year can be considered just lateral by default. Did we forget skinner mentally melting down twice last playoffs? Once the year before and again the year before that? How long can we keep gambling on a “starter” that mentally shuts down again and again when it matters most?
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The career playoff save percentage of .891 for Jarry is what makes me most nervous, to be honest. Only a 8 game sample size (2-6).
Skinner for reference, was .893 with four shutouts in 50 playoff games (26-22).
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Kr55
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 11:40 |
| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 December 2025 11:02 |
I don’t know if replacing Skinner with someone playing well in net this year can be considered just lateral by default. Did we forget skinner mentally melting down twice last playoffs? Once the year before and again the year before that? How long can we keep gambling on a “starter” that mentally shuts down again and again when it matters most?
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The career playoff save percentage of .891 for Jarry is what makes me most nervous, to be honest. Only a 8 game sample size (2-6).
Skinner for reference, was .893 with four shutouts in 50 playoff games (26-22).
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Jarry was pretty bad in the COVID year 20/21 (the year the Jets swept us). The next season he was injured before playoffs and was rushed back to play the game 7 in round 1 because the other goalies were playing so badly. Ended up losing that game playing injured.
That's basically the extent of his playoff career so far, the pens have missed the last 3 seasons. Aside from 1 game in 19/20 where he lost the game giving up 1 goal and 0.952 sav% with Matt Murray still being the pens starter.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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