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 tardigrade81
Messages: 3213
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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That was heart breaking man. No words
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Ragnarok73
Messages: 2438
Registered: February 2011
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| tardigrade81 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:43 |
That was heart breaking man. No words
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A perfect capper for a terrible game by Leon. Skinner was who we thought he’d be; please let Pickard come back for the next game.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
5-14-6-1
"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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HamBlaster
Messages: 1162
Registered: June 2007
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Skinner hung in there and did what he could, especially considering that he's a basketcase right now.
Drai though, is a goddamn mess.
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Kr55
Messages: 11632
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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Skinner and Drai doomsday tag team tonight
Come back Pickard
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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nullterm
Messages: 1119
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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The hockey gods absolutely hate us.
Skinner doesn’t see another game please in an Oilers jersey. Pickard or bust.
Draisatl needs a smack to wake up, the tipped in goal was just the cherry.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Leia
Messages: 453
Registered: May 2003
Location: England
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That goal at the death was brutal, they've got to pick themselves up for Monday, split the series.
Skinner, such a mixed bag, sloppy goals and some good saves keeping us in the game. As brutal as some of the goals against were, a win would have done his confidence a world of good as it is, we'll be on his back and he may not read it, but he'll know what is being said about him. He has to turn the narative some how.
Take me home, country road
to the place where I belong
to Alberta, to see the Oilers
take me home, country road
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smyth260
Messages: 1173
Registered: November 2007
1 Cup
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The McDavid era continues to be chaos wins and losses.
Clean house or bust
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Mike
Messages: 1530
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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I’m not even joking - if Pickard can’t go next game, start Rodrigue. What a kick in the nuts this was.
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Aussie_Oil
Messages: 27
Registered: October 2009
Location: Australia
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What a joke... play until the whistle, and how does Skinner one again look so out of position. Sure he made some key saves, but he was also brutal in other areas. If Skinner starts again next game then there must be more to a Pickard injury.
This one hurts so bad.
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Jay
Messages: 901
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
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Weird play by Skinner to chase the Vegas player into the corner.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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Kr55
Messages: 11632
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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If we lose this series. This is filed into memory with Conklin
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4969
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 20:49 |
If we lose this series. This is filed into memory with Conklin
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Stuart Conklin Part II
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Leia
Messages: 453
Registered: May 2003
Location: England
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| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:49 |
If we lose this series. This is filed into memory with Conklin
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Why would you bring him up? I'd erased him from memory and now I've got 06 playing back in my mind.
Take me home, country road
to the place where I belong
to Alberta, to see the Oilers
take me home, country road
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Kr55
Messages: 11632
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Leia wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:52 |
| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:49 |
If we lose this series. This is filed into memory with Conklin
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Why would you bring him up? I'd erased him from memory and now I've got 06 playing back in my mind.
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Pickard getting his leg fallen on didn’t already send you back there? 
Need a huge showing of guts from this team next game. They almost got up 3-0 in the series by putting in a weak effort in 2/3 games. They owe themselves their second proper effort of the series.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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g2k
Messages: 2959
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
2 Cups
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Smith just knew Nurse was going down.
Steps around him. Game over.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Kr55
Messages: 11632
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| g2k wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:53 |
Smith just knew Nurse was going down.
Steps around him. Game over.
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Lots of bad moves that guys are known for on that ending. Nurse can’t just tie up the man, sells out like he loves to do. skinner full of panic mode skates out of his net like an idiot. Less so Drai, but Drai was a bum all game decides to make his night even more memorable.
One thing for sure, I will never ever buy California closets.
[Updated on: Sat, 10 May 2025 22:00]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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nullterm
Messages: 1119
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 20:57 |
| g2k wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:53 |
Smith just knew Nurse was going down.
Steps around him. Game over.
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Lots of bad moves that guys are known for on that ending. Nurse can’t just tie up the man, sells out like he loves to do. skinner full of panic mode skates out of his net like an idiot. Less so Drai, but Drai was a bum all game decides to make his night even more memorable.
One thing for sure, I will never ever buy California closets.
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The first goal with him on his butt for wide open net, the last no where near the crease. Skinner in a nutshell.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Mike
Messages: 1530
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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Seriously - if Pickard can’t go, are we really starting Skinner? The worst goalie in playoff history? Why not try Rodrigue? Can’t be much worse.
Man - that sucked so bad. The high of McDavid tying it up, and then under 10 seconds to go, not even in our zone, for sure at least going to OT with momentum on our side. Then that happens.
And why did we only have 20 shots on Hill? He’s playing like a sieve. You can’t pass up point blank chances.
Anyway - you would have told me we could be up 2-1 after 3, I think we would all have been thrilled with that. Sadly, if we see much more of Skinner, I can’t see us getting many more wins.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4969
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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If you want to see an example of a play that indicates players don't trust their goalie to make a save.. both Nurse (naturally) and McDavid both dive to block the shot.. then Skinner comes out 10 feet so that Smith can skate around him for an open net.. to be fair to Leon.. he was trying to block the cross crease pass to the open Vegas player on the other side of the net..
An Oiler classic own zone experience.
IMHO.. the guy that really is to blame (had the easiest play to make) was Nurse NOT rubbing out the Vegas player that skates the puck all the way along the boards and behind the net and makes the pass into the slot that created the entire mess..
[Updated on: Sat, 10 May 2025 22:04]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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nullterm
Messages: 1119
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:00 |
If you want to see an example of a play where the players don't trust their goalie to make a save.. both Nurse (naturally) and McDavid both dive to block the shot.. then Skinner comes out 10 feet so that Smith can skate around him for an open net.. to be fair to Leon.. he was trying to cover the cross crease pass to the open Vegas player on the other side of the net..
An Oiler classic own zone experience.
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Arvid was diving on point shots just a minute before that too. No one trusts Skinner to make a basic save.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4969
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| nullterm wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:03 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:00 |
If you want to see an example of a play where the players don't trust their goalie to make a save.. both Nurse (naturally) and McDavid both dive to block the shot.. then Skinner comes out 10 feet so that Smith can skate around him for an open net.. to be fair to Leon.. he was trying to cover the cross crease pass to the open Vegas player on the other side of the net..
An Oiler classic own zone experience.
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Arvid was diving on point shots just a minute before that too. No one trusts Skinner to make a basic save.
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That's it man.. the effect of an unreliable goalie extends beyond the crease..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Kr55
Messages: 11632
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Sounds like Mumford has worked skinner in an alternate reality. Smiling after the game, says he kept the team in the game. He’s had to move his brain into a space of total delusion and denial to try to keep his NHL career going.
[Updated on: Sat, 10 May 2025 22:08]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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tardigrade81
Messages: 3213
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
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Whatever. We weren't gonna sweep these guys anyway
Go win game 4
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4969
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| tardigrade81 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:07 |
Whatever. We weren't gonna sweep these guys anyway
Go win game 4
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It was there though, gave it away.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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nullterm
Messages: 1119
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:08 |
| tardigrade81 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:07 |
Whatever. We weren't gonna sweep these guys anyway
Go win game 4
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It was there though, gave it away.
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Twice. 2 goal lead. And tied headed to OT.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Mike
Messages: 1530
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| nullterm wrote on Sun, 11 May 2025 01:11 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:08 |
| tardigrade81 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:07 |
Whatever. We weren't gonna sweep these guys anyway
Go win game 4
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It was there though, gave it away.
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Twice. 2 goal lead. And tied headed to OT.
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I guess I take solace in the fact we are up 2-1 having only really outplayed them in 2 of 9+ periods.
Periods 2 and 3 in game 1, we looked unstoppable. Game 2, we were lucky to escape with a win. And tonight - more even than last game, but sadly we got Skinnered.
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Kr55
Messages: 11632
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers
"That's a goalie's job to give your team a chance to win the game. I thought I did, but it's a couple of tough bounces here & there."
Not a single ounce of accountability from Stu. And he can't afford to be accountable because his ego couldn't survive it. Bowman has work to do this summer, no matter how the playoffs go.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Mike
Messages: 1530
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Kr55 wrote on Sun, 11 May 2025 01:23 |
Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers
"That's a goalie's job to give your team a chance to win the game. I thought I did, but it's a couple of tough bounces here & there."
Not a single ounce of accountability from Stu. And he can't afford to be accountable because his ego couldn't survive it. Bowman has work to do this summer, no matter how the playoffs go.
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It’s unforgivable to have Rodrigue as the backup for a Cup contending team. Any team with hopes of going all the way need AT LEAST 3 NHL tenders. I don’t care if they are past their best before date.
Stu is done. We really need to hope and pray that Pickard is good to go for game 4. If not, I would without hesitation start Rodrigue. Again - what’s the worst that can happen?
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4969
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Mike wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:30 |
| Kr55 wrote on Sun, 11 May 2025 01:23 |
Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers
"That's a goalie's job to give your team a chance to win the game. I thought I did, but it's a couple of tough bounces here & there."
Not a single ounce of accountability from Stu. And he can't afford to be accountable because his ego couldn't survive it. Bowman has work to do this summer, no matter how the playoffs go.
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It’s unforgivable to have Rodrigue as the backup for a Cup contending team. Any team with hopes of going all the way need AT LEAST 3 NHL tenders. I don’t care if they are past their best before date.
Stu is done. We really need to hope and pray that Pickard is good to go for game 4. If not, I would without hesitation start Rodrigue. Again - what’s the worst that can happen?
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Too true.. I thought the same today.. Oiler's goalie depth is so weak they can't even think of putting in the 3rd guy.. Rodrigue has not been that great this year in the AHL.. hasn't progressed much..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Mike
Messages: 1530
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 11 May 2025 01:46 |
| Mike wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:30 |
| Kr55 wrote on Sun, 11 May 2025 01:23 |
Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers
"That's a goalie's job to give your team a chance to win the game. I thought I did, but it's a couple of tough bounces here & there."
Not a single ounce of accountability from Stu. And he can't afford to be accountable because his ego couldn't survive it. Bowman has work to do this summer, no matter how the playoffs go.
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It’s unforgivable to have Rodrigue as the backup for a Cup contending team. Any team with hopes of going all the way need AT LEAST 3 NHL tenders. I don’t care if they are past their best before date.
Stu is done. We really need to hope and pray that Pickard is good to go for game 4. If not, I would without hesitation start Rodrigue. Again - what’s the worst that can happen?
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Too true.. I thought the same today.. Oiler's goalie depth is so weak they can't even think of putting in the 3rd guy.. Rodrigue has not been that great this year in the AHL.. hasn't progressed much..
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Maybe he catches lighting in a bottle for a few games? I would think that more likely than Stu doing it.
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nullterm
Messages: 1119
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:23 |
Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers
"That's a goalie's job to give your team a chance to win the game. I thought I did, but it's a couple of tough bounces here & there."
Not a single ounce of accountability from Stu. And he can't afford to be accountable because his ego couldn't survive it. Bowman has work to do this summer, no matter how the playoffs go.
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He meant his bounces, on his butt (here) and bouncing out of the crease (there) on the last goal.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4969
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:23 |
Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers
"That's a goalie's job to give your team a chance to win the game. I thought I did, but it's a couple of tough bounces here & there."
Not a single ounce of accountability from Stu. And he can't afford to be accountable because his ego couldn't survive it. Bowman has work to do this summer, no matter how the playoffs go.
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Well a goalie has to be careful o9r he'll turn into a 50 ton guilt weight like what happened to Campbell.. thinking about it.. a guy I never seem to hear say he has to do better is Nurse.. ?
[Updated on: Sat, 10 May 2025 22:47]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Kr55
Messages: 11632
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 22:43 |
| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:23 |
Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers
"That's a goalie's job to give your team a chance to win the game. I thought I did, but it's a couple of tough bounces here & there."
Not a single ounce of accountability from Stu. And he can't afford to be accountable because his ego couldn't survive it. Bowman has work to do this summer, no matter how the playoffs go.
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Well a goalie has to be careful o9r he'll turn into a 50 ton guilt weight like what happened to Campbell.. thinking about it.. a guy I never seem to hear say he has to do better in Nurse.. ?
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Lots of good goalies are accountable, and use taking ownership of bad play as a way to drive themselves forward.
But yeah, the mental midgets can fall into a deep dark hole. Teammates can tell when a guy is that delusional though and need excessive coddling just to keep their heads on straight, and I imagine our players are pretty sick of it by now. How they play in front of Stu is enough of a sign of that.
Nurse, I'm not sure if Nurse even knows when he plays bad. Guy is 100% reactive play. He probably always thinks he did the best he could, given all the endless surprise situations he discovers himself in all night.
[Updated on: Sat, 10 May 2025 22:48]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4969
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:46 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 22:43 |
| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2025 21:23 |
Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers
"That's a goalie's job to give your team a chance to win the game. I thought I did, but it's a couple of tough bounces here & there."
Not a single ounce of accountability from Stu. And he can't afford to be accountable because his ego couldn't survive it. Bowman has work to do this summer, no matter how the playoffs go.
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Well a goalie has to be careful o9r he'll turn into a 50 ton guilt weight like what happened to Campbell.. thinking about it.. a guy I never seem to hear say he has to do better in Nurse.. ?
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Lots of good goalies are accountable, and use taking ownership of bad play as a way to drive themselves forward.
But yeah, the mental midgets can fall into a deep dark hole. Teammates can tell when a guy is that delusional though and need excessive coddling just to keep their heads on straight, and I imagine our players are pretty sick of it by now. How they play in front of Stu is enough of a sign of that.
Nurse, I'm not sure if Nurse even knows when he plays bad. Guy is 100% reactive play. He probably always thinks he did the best he could, given all the endless surprise situations he discovers himself in all night.
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Ha! .. kinda like Groundhog Day.. and everyday is the first day of school..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4969
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Skinner needs to change it up.. shave the stach.. shed that skin.. be REBORN !
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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cpcos
Messages: 50
Registered: March 2013
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he is either stupid or the unluckiest goalie ever….
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The reverse Samson. His stache weakens him.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4969
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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What happened to Stone?
I saw him fall..
Head or LBI ?
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Jay
Messages: 901
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
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Pickard not available for game 4.
Going to need to score 5 or 6 tomorrow for a chance to win it looks like.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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