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Much needed.

Let’s do it more convincingly tomorrow!

Also.... glad to see Smitty back

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 19:32

Much needed.

Let’s do it more convincingly tomorrow!

Also.... glad to see Smitty back

They should play him tomorrow night too, give Koski more rest.



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Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 19:36

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 19:32

Much needed.

Let’s do it more convincingly tomorrow!

Also.... glad to see Smitty back

They should play him tomorrow night too, give Koski more rest.


Pretty sure it'll be Kostko tomorrow and Smith vs Habs on Thurs. Tippett will give him an opportunity to be the starter.



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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 19:32

Much needed.

Let’s do it more convincingly tomorrow!

Also.... glad to see Smitty back

I was pretty convinced. The Oilers scored all the the goals!

That second period was crazy.



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JPro wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 20:37

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 19:32

Much needed.

Let’s do it more convincingly tomorrow!

Also.... glad to see Smitty back

I was pretty convinced. The Oilers scored all the the goals!

That second period was crazy.


I didn’t say it wasn’t convincing. I’m just saying more convincing tomorrow icon_biggrin



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The reason why I screamed at Archie’s last second miss and that took away another McDavid assist is I want McDavid to reach 500 points faster than Crosby.

Crosby did it at a younger age but if you look at actually games played it’s very close.

It took Crosby 369 games to reach 500 points.

McDavid after tonight is at 365 GP and 496 points.



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WhoreableGuy wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 20:43

The reason why I screamed at Archie’s last second miss and that took away another McDavid assist is I want McDavid to reach 500 points faster than Crosby.

Crosby did it at a younger age but if you look at actually games played it’s very close.

It took Crosby 369 games to reach 500 points.

McDavid after tonight is at 365 GP and 496 points.


I didn’t realize Connor would have had an assist there. BLAST!!



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Hope Kass is okay... I really don’t want Chiasson back in this lineup icon_biggrin


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Tyler Ennis, postgame, on Mike Smith; "he's big in the locker room, he talks a lot, he's a good boost for us. I think the biggest thing is how well he plays the puck, he gives our d some relief back there, he's a motivator, he's a good leader."

I said a couple weeks ago. This team needs Neal and Smith in the room, or players with their leadership and voice.



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Can we send Larsson to the taxi squad already? I just as soon have Cory cross back lol


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Where was HAUS? "coach's decision?"


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watchman wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 21:06

Where was HAUS? "coach's decision?"


Who?

Haaaaaas is on IR



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HAUS... ha... too lazy to look it up. icon_nod


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...so he got hurt in his first game back?


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watchman wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 21:16

...so he got hurt in his first game back?


Nope, he played 2.



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I finally feel comfortable saying Smith looked solid tonight. I kept waiting for him to fail. Larsson owes him a room service supper.


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Smith delivered the goods. Team badly needs that to keep happening right now.

That Ennis goal was a shocker. Loved it.

Good for Ottawa playing some better hockey lately after their embarrassments against us. Hopefully they can avoid just being easy points for other teams in the division. Still gotta fail against us of course.



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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 08 February 2021 20:27

Smith delivered the goods. Team badly needs that to keep happening right now.

That Ennis goal was a shocker. Loved it.

Good for Ottawa playing some better hockey lately after their embarrassments against us. Hopefully they can avoid just being easy points for other teams in the division. Still gotta fail against us of course.


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With Smith back we looked half decent at the back, but we did that last year too, till we got to the play in's. Hopefully with the shorter season and perhaps a chance over the next month or two to even the games played out we'll get a chance if we reach the post season.

I'd forgot about the fights early on, but two technical infringements were the only plays that led to a power play against tonight, so no stupid trips or hooks by anyone which is a start. Plus it seems that the second call on Larson was wrong, but couldn't be called back. More of this and we will give ourselves more of a chance going forward.

Got to say that JP is playing really well for no reward and seems to be getting better with each game of late. Dare I say that he's starting to be the player we thought we were drafting, all be it without the points at the moment?

That first period on Saturday was very good, but we fell apart afterwards, today whilst not being as good was closer to 60 minutes of consistent hockey, and yeah it was against the Sens, but we can build on it going forward now.



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Leia wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 01:24

With Smith back we looked half decent at the back, but we did that last year too, till we got to the play in's. Hopefully with the shorter season and perhaps a chance over the next month or two to even the games played out we'll get a chance if we reach the post season.

I'd forgot about the fights early on, but two technical infringements were the only plays that led to a power play against tonight, so no stupid trips or hooks by anyone which is a start. Plus it seems that the second call on Larson was wrong, but couldn't be called back. More of this and we will give ourselves more of a chance going forward.

Got to say that JP is playing really well for no reward and seems to be getting better with each game of late. Dare I say that he's starting to be the player we thought we were drafting, all be it without the points at the moment?

That first period on Saturday was very good, but we fell apart afterwards, today whilst not being as good was closer to 60 minutes of consistent hockey, and yeah it was against the Sens, but we can build on it going forward now.


You really can't judge Smith based on the game against Ottawa. He didn't fail, but that's about all you can say in a game against an opponent so weak. We now have three different wins against the Sens with three different goalies, and both Smith and Koskinen looked decent, but really weren't that challenged.

Smith is still ultimately the same guy who has been around .900 or worse the last couple seasons, and now he's a year older. It's really really unlikely that he's going to have a renaissance, even if he has a good game sometimes. I really hope that the Oilers brass understands that, but I have little faith that they do. I would still be pulling out all the stops to get a better goalie this year, and as soon as I could if I was the GM.

That said, it's nice to win again and hopefully they can do it again tomorrow and pull above .500 for the first time this season. You do hope that they don't get cocky up 3-0 in the season series, and outscoring the Senators 15-8...




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Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 02:54

Leia wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 01:24

With Smith back we looked half decent at the back, but we did that last year too, till we got to the play in's. Hopefully with the shorter season and perhaps a chance over the next month or two to even the games played out we'll get a chance if we reach the post season.

I'd forgot about the fights early on, but two technical infringements were the only plays that led to a power play against tonight, so no stupid trips or hooks by anyone which is a start. Plus it seems that the second call on Larson was wrong, but couldn't be called back. More of this and we will give ourselves more of a chance going forward.

Got to say that JP is playing really well for no reward and seems to be getting better with each game of late. Dare I say that he's starting to be the player we thought we were drafting, all be it without the points at the moment?

That first period on Saturday was very good, but we fell apart afterwards, today whilst not being as good was closer to 60 minutes of consistent hockey, and yeah it was against the Sens, but we can build on it going forward now.


You really can't judge Smith based on the game against Ottawa. He didn't fail, but that's about all you can say in a game against an opponent so weak. We now have three different wins against the Sens with three different goalies, and both Smith and Koskinen looked decent, but really weren't that challenged.

Smith is still ultimately the same guy who has been around .900 or worse the last couple seasons, and now he's a year older. It's really really unlikely that he's going to have a renaissance, even if he has a good game sometimes. I really hope that the Oilers brass understands that, but I have little faith that they do. I would still be pulling out all the stops to get a better goalie this year, and as soon as I could if I was the GM.

That said, it's nice to win again and hopefully they can do it again tomorrow and pull above .500 for the first time this season. You do hope that they don't get cocky up 3-0 in the season series, and outscoring the Senators 15-8...





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Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 01:54

Leia wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 01:24

With Smith back we looked half decent at the back, but we did that last year too, till we got to the play in's. Hopefully with the shorter season and perhaps a chance over the next month or two to even the games played out we'll get a chance if we reach the post season.

I'd forgot about the fights early on, but two technical infringements were the only plays that led to a power play against tonight, so no stupid trips or hooks by anyone which is a start. Plus it seems that the second call on Larson was wrong, but couldn't be called back. More of this and we will give ourselves more of a chance going forward.

Got to say that JP is playing really well for no reward and seems to be getting better with each game of late. Dare I say that he's starting to be the player we thought we were drafting, all be it without the points at the moment?

That first period on Saturday was very good, but we fell apart afterwards, today whilst not being as good was closer to 60 minutes of consistent hockey, and yeah it was against the Sens, but we can build on it going forward now.


You really can't judge Smith based on the game against Ottawa. He didn't fail, but that's about all you can say in a game against an opponent so weak. We now have three different wins against the Sens with three different goalies, and both Smith and Koskinen looked decent, but really weren't that challenged.

Smith is still ultimately the same guy who has been around .900 or worse the last couple seasons, and now he's a year older. It's really really unlikely that he's going to have a renaissance, even if he has a good game sometimes. I really hope that the Oilers brass understands that, but I have little faith that they do. I would still be pulling out all the stops to get a better goalie this year, and as soon as I could if I was the GM.

That said, it's nice to win again and hopefully they can do it again tomorrow and pull above .500 for the first time this season. You do hope that they don't get cocky up 3-0 in the season series, and outscoring the Senators 15-8...




It wasn't a judgement on him, you can't do that off one game. I assessed we looked half decent as we did over the course of last season when up until the play in series playing both Smith and Koski kept us in the hunt for the play offs. I'd rather we have a number 1 who could be trusted to take us to the play offs with either Smith or Koski backing up, but we haven't.

We won't see Smith stake a claim to be our number 1 ever, but as a tandem they did OK last year and maybe this year and you never know what the off season will bring.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 01:54

Leia wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 01:24

With Smith back we looked half decent at the back, but we did that last year too, till we got to the play in's. Hopefully with the shorter season and perhaps a chance over the next month or two to even the games played out we'll get a chance if we reach the post season.

I'd forgot about the fights early on, but two technical infringements were the only plays that led to a power play against tonight, so no stupid trips or hooks by anyone which is a start. Plus it seems that the second call on Larson was wrong, but couldn't be called back. More of this and we will give ourselves more of a chance going forward.

Got to say that JP is playing really well for no reward and seems to be getting better with each game of late. Dare I say that he's starting to be the player we thought we were drafting, all be it without the points at the moment?

That first period on Saturday was very good, but we fell apart afterwards, today whilst not being as good was closer to 60 minutes of consistent hockey, and yeah it was against the Sens, but we can build on it going forward now.


You really can't judge Smith based on the game against Ottawa. He didn't fail, but that's about all you can say in a game against an opponent so weak. We now have three different wins against the Sens with three different goalies, and both Smith and Koskinen looked decent, but really weren't that challenged.

Smith is still ultimately the same guy who has been around .900 or worse the last couple seasons, and now he's a year older. It's really really unlikely that he's going to have a renaissance, even if he has a good game sometimes. I really hope that the Oilers brass understands that, but I have little faith that they do. I would still be pulling out all the stops to get a better goalie this year, and as soon as I could if I was the GM.

That said, it's nice to win again and hopefully they can do it again tomorrow and pull above .500 for the first time this season. You do hope that they don't get cocky up 3-0 in the season series, and outscoring the Senators 15-8...



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Good win for the Oilers. It wasn't a blow out like some people expected but Murray played well and they hit what, 4 posts? An inch the other way and it's 5 or 6 to 1. I liked the win because the team played well the whole game, especially defensively which is huge because even in the other wins against Ottawa, they were leaky. I thought Smith looked really sharp. He made the saves he needed to make plus a couple of big saves which is what every team needs.

I hope they can do it all again.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:43

Good win for the Oilers. It wasn't a blow out like some people expected but Murray played well and they hit what, 4 posts? An inch the other way and it's 5 or 6 to 1. I liked the win because the team played well the whole game, especially defensively which is huge because even in the other wins against Ottawa, they were leaky. I thought Smith looked really sharp. He made the saves he needed to make plus a couple of big saves which is what every team needs.

I hope they can do it all again.


Yeah, our D actually covered the front if the net and cleared a few juicy rebounds. I guess there is also the factor of Ottawa not being good so it makes owning the front of our net easier, but clearly there was more effort after the embarrassing coverage last game. Does it last...history suggests no, hehe.



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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:47

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:43

Good win for the Oilers. It wasn't a blow out like some people expected but Murray played well and they hit what, 4 posts? An inch the other way and it's 5 or 6 to 1. I liked the win because the team played well the whole game, especially defensively which is huge because even in the other wins against Ottawa, they were leaky. I thought Smith looked really sharp. He made the saves he needed to make plus a couple of big saves which is what every team needs.

I hope they can do it all again.


Yeah, our D actually covered the front if the net and cleared a few juicy rebounds. I guess there is also the factor of Ottawa not being good so it makes owning the front of our net easier, but clearly there was more effort after the embarrassing coverage last game. Does it last...history suggests no, hehe.

I agree. I am not saying their problems are solved because they beat Ottawa who's not a cup contender but they played well, played how they need to play to beat anyone. Sure the competition isn't on par with the Leafs but hopefully they can start building the habits so it becomes engrained in them for when they do play the better teams.



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.

I'm happy he got the win last night and I hope he wins all the games he plays for the team, but I do worry that a little winning streak for him will be all that it takes to convince the Oilers brass that all is well and the goaltending box is checked.

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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.


We are in a situation we need to rely on him to give an honest days work and provide rest to our other overpaid 2a option in goal.

Smith’s contributions to the team are far beyond what he does, or doesn’t do, on the ice. Ennis proved that again in his post game presser.

Is Smith a bonafide 1? No. Not anymore, hasn’t been for a long while. But he’s still capable when he can tap into it on the ice and he’s a voice and motivator for a VERY quiet leadership group.



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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:47

Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 09:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.


We are in a situation we need to rely on him to give an honest days work and provide rest to our other overpaid 2a option in goal.

Smith’s contributions to the team are far beyond what he does, or doesn’t do, on the ice. Ennis proved that again in his post game presser.

Is Smith a bonafide 1? No. Not anymore, hasn’t been for a long while. But he’s still capable when he can tap into it on the ice and he’s a voice and motivator for a VERY quiet leadership group.


Exactly. He did his job, they won the game. Is he the answer to all the Oilers goalie issues, no. They need someone else, the sooner the better. But he did well so be happy he did well rather than coming in here to remind everyone he sucks.



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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:47

Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 09:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.


We are in a situation we need to rely on him to give an honest days work and provide rest to our other overpaid 2a option in goal.

Smith’s contributions to the team are far beyond what he does, or doesn’t do, on the ice. Ennis proved that again in his post game presser.

Is Smith a bonafide 1? No. Not anymore, hasn’t been for a long while. But he’s still capable when he can tap into it on the ice and he’s a voice and motivator for a VERY quiet leadership group.


I don't think he is even a bonafide #2, and I don't put any stock in to what a player says in a post-game scrum when asked specifically about a teammate just back from injury. It's a canned response. No one ever downplays a teammate's importance. It's basically the same response Ennis would have made if they'd asked about the fights in the first "It was great, it gave us a big lift on the bench and sort of set the tone for the whole night" or about the goal from Draisaitl - "We really needed that. We'd been pushing, but just needed that one thing to go our way to really start the ball rolling." or about a couple big hits from a fourth liner - "That's just the energy he brings to our team. When we see that, it just gets everyone on the bench going." It is meaningless drivel.

I'm sure Smith is liked by his teammates, but in the end, that's not really what's important.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 10:00

Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:47

Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 09:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.


We are in a situation we need to rely on him to give an honest days work and provide rest to our other overpaid 2a option in goal.

Smith’s contributions to the team are far beyond what he does, or doesn’t do, on the ice. Ennis proved that again in his post game presser.

Is Smith a bonafide 1? No. Not anymore, hasn’t been for a long while. But he’s still capable when he can tap into it on the ice and he’s a voice and motivator for a VERY quiet leadership group.


I don't think he is even a bonafide #2, and I don't put any stock in to what a player says in a post-game scrum when asked specifically about a teammate just back from injury. It's a canned response. No one ever downplays a teammate's importance. It's basically the same response Ennis would have made if they'd asked about the fights in the first "It was great, it gave us a big lift on the bench and sort of set the tone for the whole night" or about the goal from Draisaitl - "We really needed that. We'd been pushing, but just needed that one thing to go our way to really start the ball rolling." or about a couple big hits from a fourth liner - "That's just the energy he brings to our team. When we see that, it just gets everyone on the bench going." It is meaningless drivel.

I'm sure Smith is liked by his teammates, but in the end, that's not really what's important.



It’s not the first time we’ve heard it though, Adam. We are well aware that our teams leadership personnel are quiet leaders. They lead by example on the ice. It’s been mentioned in regards to Neal and Smith how they’re vocal in the room and they motivate the group. It’s well documented from Lucic’s departure. It’s been mentioned by several others since.

Smith isn’t going to put the team on his back all season long. Let’s be honest, the old man’s back would break, he’d pull a mysterious muscle or simply fall. But he can provide a spark to a room, has shown his capability of still making a save when needed and despite some extremely poor decisions at times, adds a layer of puck moving.

In a season where we’ve already heard members of the team say it’s tougher to ‘get up’ for games, and it’s shown in the effort level at points, Smith’s motivation in the room is a positive. His being around, is a positive for Koskinen. His being around, is a positive for the team.

I can’t believe I just said all that. Ha. We’re living and dying with this tandem, like it or not. I’ll try to see the positives in the tandem rather than crapping over it after a guy puts in a solid effort that contributed to 2 points.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.

Then what do you call after a win where he did his job coming in to devalue the win because the opponent wasn't a cup contender. You then point out his past seasons and make the point he's probably going to get worse.

I don't think there is a person in here expecting Smith to be pushing for a vezina or turn back the clock to when he was a top tier goalie. There isn't a person in here who doesn't think they need someone else at some point. His age alone means they need someone else. Most people are looking for a solid effort, that's it. He came in after a very long lay off and injury. He was solid, made the stops he was suppose, made a couple of big saves when called upon. He did his job and the team got the win. I don't even think I saw a person going over the top about how he played, everyone was just happy he put in a solid effort.

What value does bringing up nothing but negativity do for anyone other than to bring people down?



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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:56

Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.

Then what do you call after a win where he did his job coming in to devalue the win because the opponent wasn't a cup contender. You then point out his past seasons and make the point he's probably going to get worse.

I don't think there is a person in here expecting Smith to be pushing for a vezina or turn back the clock to when he was a top tier goalie. There isn't a person in here who doesn't think they need someone else at some point. His age alone means they need someone else. Most people are looking for a solid effort, that's it. He came in after a very long lay off and injury. He was solid, made the stops he was suppose, made a couple of big saves when called upon. He did his job and the team got the win. I don't even think I saw a person going over the top about how he played, everyone was just happy he put in a solid effort.

What value does bringing up nothing but negativity do for anyone other than to bring people down?


Mark Spector literally wrote an article yesterday about how Mike Smith could just be the Saviour for the Oilers. I think it's relevant to keep in mind that even if he exceeds expectations now and then, he's not good and he's not going to get better.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 10:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:56

Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.

Then what do you call after a win where he did his job coming in to devalue the win because the opponent wasn't a cup contender. You then point out his past seasons and make the point he's probably going to get worse.

I don't think there is a person in here expecting Smith to be pushing for a vezina or turn back the clock to when he was a top tier goalie. There isn't a person in here who doesn't think they need someone else at some point. His age alone means they need someone else. Most people are looking for a solid effort, that's it. He came in after a very long lay off and injury. He was solid, made the stops he was suppose, made a couple of big saves when called upon. He did his job and the team got the win. I don't even think I saw a person going over the top about how he played, everyone was just happy he put in a solid effort.

What value does bringing up nothing but negativity do for anyone other than to bring people down?


Mark Spector literally wrote an article yesterday about how Mike Smith could just be the Saviour for the Oilers. I think it's relevant to keep in mind that even if he exceeds expectations now and then, he's not good and he's not going to get better.


He’s not goin to get better. He’s past the age of improvement, but his being there allows Koskinen rest. His being there sparks a quiet room. For this team, his being there is a positive.



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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 09:14

Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 10:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:56

Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.

Then what do you call after a win where he did his job coming in to devalue the win because the opponent wasn't a cup contender. You then point out his past seasons and make the point he's probably going to get worse.

I don't think there is a person in here expecting Smith to be pushing for a vezina or turn back the clock to when he was a top tier goalie. There isn't a person in here who doesn't think they need someone else at some point. His age alone means they need someone else. Most people are looking for a solid effort, that's it. He came in after a very long lay off and injury. He was solid, made the stops he was suppose, made a couple of big saves when called upon. He did his job and the team got the win. I don't even think I saw a person going over the top about how he played, everyone was just happy he put in a solid effort.

What value does bringing up nothing but negativity do for anyone other than to bring people down?


Mark Spector literally wrote an article yesterday about how Mike Smith could just be the Saviour for the Oilers. I think it's relevant to keep in mind that even if he exceeds expectations now and then, he's not good and he's not going to get better.


He’s not goin to get better. He’s past the age of improvement, but his being there allows Koskinen rest. His being there sparks a quiet room. For this team, his being there is a positive.

Exactly. He did his job.



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Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 09:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:56

Adam wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 09 February 2021 08:39


Thata a boy Adam. Way to come in and piss all over a guy.


It's not pissing all over him. It's just a reality. Guys who are soon to be 39 don't suddenly get better at hockey, and Mike Smith has been bad for a while now. He may have a few more good games left in him, but he's just not someone you can rely on at all and it would be a mistake to think that the Oilers can. That's just the facts of life.

Then what do you call after a win where he did his job coming in to devalue the win because the opponent wasn't a cup contender. You then point out his past seasons and make the point he's probably going to get worse.

I don't think there is a person in here expecting Smith to be pushing for a vezina or turn back the clock to when he was a top tier goalie. There isn't a person in here who doesn't think they need someone else at some point. His age alone means they need someone else. Most people are looking for a solid effort, that's it. He came in after a very long lay off and injury. He was solid, made the stops he was suppose, made a couple of big saves when called upon. He did his job and the team got the win. I don't even think I saw a person going over the top about how he played, everyone was just happy he put in a solid effort.

What value does bringing up nothing but negativity do for anyone other than to bring people down?


Mark Spector literally wrote an article yesterday about how Mike Smith could just be the Saviour for the Oilers. I think it's relevant to keep in mind that even if he exceeds expectations now and then, he's not good and he's not going to get better.

Good for Spector. I don't think anyone in here including myself think Smith is the answer. Just looking for a solid effort when he's in. That's it. He did that, they won. Thank you Mr. Smith for doing your job. I hope he can do it again.

Still don't see the value other than to bring people down when in posting a negative post about how the guy sucks after he played well.

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I have to say that while I heard Bouchard had a good shot, I didn't know how good it was. He's got an ankle breaking shot and he can get it off pretty easily. Even the wrist/snap shot he took that rang off the bar was hard and caught Murray off guard.

I thought Khaira looked decent again. 2 games in a row. I hope it continues as I have to think this has got to be his last chance.

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You really can't judge Smith based on the game against Ottawa. He didn't fail, but that's about all you can say in a game against an opponent so weak. We now have three different wins against the Sens with three different goalies, and both Smith and Koskinen looked decent, but really weren't that challenged.

Smith is still ultimately the same guy who has been around .900 or worse the last couple seasons, and now he's a year older. It's really really unlikely that he's going to have a renaissance, even if he has a good game sometimes. I really hope that the Oilers brass understands that, but I have little faith that they do. I would still be pulling out all the stops to get a better goalie this year, and as soon as I could if I was the GM.

That said, it's nice to win again and hopefully they can do it again tomorrow and pull above .500 for the first time this season. You do hope that they don't get cocky up 3-0 in the season series, and outscoring the Senators 15-8...




Ya, it's tough to get a read on what this team is right now. 3-0 against Ottawa, 4-7 against the rest of the division. And Ottawa isn't just, "not a Cup contender", they're trending to be an awful team. On pace to win less than 10 games this season. They've given up 26 more goals than they've scored which pro-rates to -164 over an 82 game season. Detroit was brutal last year and were only -122 in 71 games (-140 prorated). But that was an exceptionally bad season. The worst team the year before was only -60.

That being said, wins count the same regardless of the opponent, so good to see them bank these points.

After tonight's game, they play 11 games against not-Ottawa, so I think we'll have a much better read on how good this team is after that. A pretty good mix, with 3 each against CGY & TOR, 2 against WPG & VAN and 1 against MTL. Then 3 in a row against OTT.

As for Smith, I'll just say the sooner the Oilers get goaltending help, the better.



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