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CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 30 January 2020 12:21

und(i)sputed O.L.F.N Heavybra(i)n Champ(i)on of the Woooooooooooooooooorld. Plus. One.

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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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#FireBobbyNicks

Survivor LX(I) and 67 Champ(i)on

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 30 January 2020 12:21

und(i)sputed O.L.F.N Heavybra(i)n Champ(i)on of the Woooooooooooooooooorld. Plus. One.

I assume another Hart snub for McDavid is coming? Even though he lead the league in primary points and is ahead by a mile vs a player on another other team in points % for team goals.



Dimitri Filipovic @DimFilipovic
The gap here between 1 and 2 and then 2 and everyone else. Sheesh

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 09:52

I assume another Hart snub for McDavid is coming? Even though he lead the league in primary points and is ahead by a mile vs a player on another other team in points % for team goals. Dimitri Filipovic @DimFilipovic The gap here between 1 and 2 and then 2 and everyone else. Sheesh

Shocking that the Stars made the playoffs scoring that few goals.

As for the Hart snubs (where I don't think McDavid will even get serious consideration this year), that's all on management too. If we had any kind of team around him, he's got two Harts already, and he's a serious contender this year too.

Might have more points too, since there were plenty of times this year where McLellan or Hitchcock stapled useless wingers to either side of him.

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K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 11:33

Adam wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 11:05 Kr55 wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 09:52 I assume another Hart snub for McDavid is coming? Even though he lead the league in primary points and is ahead by a mile vs a player on another other team in points % for team goals. Dimitri Filipovic @DimFilipovic The gap here between 1 and 2 and then 2 and everyone else. Sheesh Shocking that the Stars made the playoffs scoring that few goals. As for the Hart snubs (where I don't think McDavid will even get serious consideration this year), that's all on management too. If we had any kind of team around him, he's got two Harts already, and he's a serious contender this year too. Might have more points too, since there were plenty of times this year where McLellan or Hitchcock stapled useless wingers to either side of him. Yeah if McDavid wins the Art Ross and doesn't win the Hart last year, there wasn't a chance this year. As far as wingers go, counting on 2 centers to be wingers with McDavid and a trio of natural centers for by far most of team production tells us everything we need to know there. Thing is, I don't think Connor gives a crap about the accolades and would trade them all for 2 or 3 Stanleys in his career in less than a heartbeat.

I do think he cares to an extent. He wants to be the best.

All those records the Oilers in the 1980s set were in part because Gretzky knew the record book and wanted to re-write it. There's a great story about Coffey's 8-point night where Coffey scores a few points early, and Gretzky tells them the record for defencemen points in a game and sets the goal of Coffey breaking that record that night (he tied Tom Bladon's 8 points).

I think it does bother him that he's not getting his due, and hurting his chances of leaving a bigger mark on the game because the Oilers management sucks. I think that that's a good thing though. The best players want to be the best players.

Quick question on the chart above...where does Nugent-Hopkins sit on that chart? Can't be too far down that list either...he was in on 30% of the Oilers goals this year...

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Adam wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 13:37

K.McC#24 wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 11:33 Adam wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 11:05 Kr55 wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 09:52 I assume another Hart snub for McDavid is coming? Even though he lead the league in primary points and is ahead by a mile vs a player on another other team in points % for team goals. Dimitri Filipovic @DimFilipovic The gap here between 1 and 2 and then 2 and everyone else. Sheesh Shocking that the Stars made the playoffs scoring that few goals. As for the Hart snubs (where I don't think McDavid will even get serious consideration this year), that's all on management too. If we had any kind of team around him, he's got two Harts already, and he's a serious contender this year too. Might have more points too, since there were plenty of times this year where McLellan or Hitchcock stapled useless wingers to either side of him. Yeah if McDavid wins the Art Ross and doesn't win the Hart last year, there wasn't a chance this year. As far as wingers go, counting on 2 centers to be wingers with McDavid and a trio of natural centers for by far most of team production tells us everything we need to know there. Thing is, I don't think Connor gives a crap about the accolades and would trade them all for 2 or 3 Stanleys in his career in less than a heartbeat. I do think he cares to an extent. He wants to be the best. All those records the Oilers in the 1980s set were in part because Gretzky knew the record book and wanted to re-write it. There's a great story about Coffey's 8-point night where Coffey scores a few points early, and Gretzky tells them the record for defencemen points in a game and sets the goal of Coffey breaking that record that night (he tied Tom Bladon's 8 points). I think it does bother him that he's not getting his due, and hurting his chances of leaving a bigger mark on the game because the Oilers management sucks. I think that that's a good thing though. The best players want to be the best players. Quick question on the chart above...where does Nugent-Hopkins sit on that chart? Can't be too far down that list either...he was in on 30% of the Oilers goals this year...

Funny to think that individual awards are probably old hat for McDavid already. Probably cares a bit, but I imagine 99% of his personal goals now are about playoff hockey. Maybe a bit more than 1% lately has been about trying to get Drai to 50 to be fair. He really has been sacrificing opportunities for his own points to try to get Drai goals the last week or so.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games

Goose wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 13:23

Adam wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 10:05 Shocking that the Stars made the playoffs scoring that few goals. That's what .930 goaltending will get you. Probably the Oilers only shot at making the playoffs next year.

Uh oh...

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Adam wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 11:05

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 05 April 2019 09:52 I assume another Hart snub for McDavid is coming? Even though he lead the league in primary points and is ahead by a mile vs a player on another other team in points % for team goals. Dimitri Filipovic @DimFilipovic The gap here between 1 and 2 and then 2 and everyone else. Sheesh Shocking that the Stars made the playoffs scoring that few goals. As for the Hart snubs (where I don't think McDavid will even get serious consideration this year), that's all on management too. If we had any kind of team around him, he's got two Harts already, and he's a serious contender this year too. Might have more points too, since there were plenty of times this year where McLellan or Hitchcock stapled useless wingers to either side of him.

Speaking of McDavid playing with crap wingers, we finally get to say McDavid is junk without Drai now, like we always said Drai is junk without McDavid.

McDavid without Drai 5v5 this year: 39.22% goals for over 554 minutes (pretty good sample size)

Took a while, but we finally killed the depth of this team enough that McDavid gets the kind of guys with him away from Drai that Drai always did away from McDAvid. McDavid officially can't drive a line without Drai :)

[Updated on: Fri, 05 April 2019 18:22]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000