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Seattle @ Edmonton (Game #28) [message #848825] |
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 g2k
Messages: 3037
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
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We are so back.
Extend Lazar and Mangy Pangy NOW.
If there is anyone remaining on this team without an NMC, change that NOW.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Kr55
Messages: 12254
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| g2k wrote on Thu, 04 December 2025 21:50 |
We are so back.
Extend Lazar and Mangy Pangy NOW.
If there is anyone remaining on this team without an NMC, change that NOW.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
Messages: 12254
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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Goals goals and more goals.
Not feeling sorry for themselves after that Minny loss is good to see.
I can't get used to seeing teams like Utah and San Jose in playoff spots ahead of us. Hopefully can get another win vs the Jets to fix that.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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 Skookum Jim
Messages: 5579
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
5 Cups
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Nice to see McDavid firing on all cyclinders again.. he was on fire.. he looked happy.. he plays better when he's mentally loose.. this will help.
Also nice to see Savoie getting 2 goals and could have been a hatty as well.. he's progressing.. also noticed stauff saying on the intermission that Bowman will be getting a bridge deal done with Savoie.. no Holloway and Broberg situation.
Fred still stunk
I really hope Clattberg idsOK.. got a stick in the eye.. looked bad. π€π»
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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tardigrade81
Messages: 3727
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
3 Cups
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That was awesome. Let that be the momentum we need !
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HamBlaster
Messages: 1279
Registered: June 2007
1 Cup
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Frederic was legitimately terrible. I remember a sequence in the game where he took a pass at our blue line on a breakout, and then skated the puck back into our zone with only one guy pressuring him... second guy comes in and they easily strip, and Seattle pressed in the zone after. What was he doing there? Why did he come back into our zone and give the puck away? That guy needs to screw his head on straight; he looks awwwwful so far.
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Mike
Messages: 1926
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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| HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 10:01 |
Frederic was legitimately terrible. I remember a sequence in the game where he took a pass at our blue line on a breakout, and then skated the puck back into our zone with only one guy pressuring him... second guy comes in and they easily strip, and Seattle pressed in the zone after. What was he doing there? Why did he come back into our zone and give the puck away? That guy needs to screw his head on straight; he looks awwwwful so far.
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Can we not just sit him and bring Howard back? Or give Clattenberg his minutes, assuming he's not blind by now?
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Adam
Messages: 7617
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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| g2k wrote on Thu, 04 December 2025 21:50 |
We are so back.
Extend Lazar and Mangy Pangy NOW.
If there is anyone remaining on this team without an NMC, change that NOW.
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Fun game to watch, but definitely don't love some of the conclusions the Oilers broadcast team was coming up with. Jack blathered on about how the Oilers schedule for the first two months was the real culprit for why we find ourselves out of a playoff spot, and from the way he makes it sound, home games just kind of win themselves I guess. We have some lengthy homestands in the second half, so it's almost like a guarantee that we roll.
Also some talk early about Skinner's bounceback after the Dallas game and how good he's been in the two games since. Rishaug also beating that drum yesterday. Here's hoping the rosy analysis stops at the talking heads and that the actual management of the team isn't swayed by a couple games without getting lit up, or a game where we blow out an opponent.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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inverno76
Messages: 2502
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
2 Cups
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| Mike wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 07:22 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 10:01 |
Frederic was legitimately terrible. I remember a sequence in the game where he took a pass at our blue line on a breakout, and then skated the puck back into our zone with only one guy pressuring him... second guy comes in and they easily strip, and Seattle pressed in the zone after. What was he doing there? Why did he come back into our zone and give the puck away? That guy needs to screw his head on straight; he looks awwwwful so far.
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Can we not just sit him and bring Howard back? Or give Clattenberg his minutes, assuming he's not blind by now?
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Knoblauch said he had stitches above his eye. Hopefully it was just a near miss. The only thing I miss about the decade of darkness was seeing guys like him getting a chance to play in the NHL.
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Adam
Messages: 7617
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 09:35 |
| Mike wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 07:22 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 10:01 |
Frederic was legitimately terrible. I remember a sequence in the game where he took a pass at our blue line on a breakout, and then skated the puck back into our zone with only one guy pressuring him... second guy comes in and they easily strip, and Seattle pressed in the zone after. What was he doing there? Why did he come back into our zone and give the puck away? That guy needs to screw his head on straight; he looks awwwwful so far.
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Can we not just sit him and bring Howard back? Or give Clattenberg his minutes, assuming he's not blind by now?
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Knoblauch said he had stitches above his eye. Hopefully it was just a near miss. The only thing I miss about the decade of darkness was seeing guys like him getting a chance to play in the NHL.
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We should do a lot more of it, to be honest. It's a lack of understanding of where to spend cap space when you're overpaying for fourth liners because they're older guys who can PK. Better off getting younger players in those spots, and teaching them what they need to know. It's not like the Oilers are just rolling four lines most games anyhow, so having younger, cheaper players with upside as your depth helps in a number of ways. They're developing playing in the best league, they're leaving more development room available for the next tier on the farm, they often are better offensively than the specialists the Oilers prefer (did you hear it was over 40 games since Janmark's last regular season goal?) so better able to move up the lineup if needed. And they're cheaper which means you can spend more money elsewhere in the lineup - like a goalie for instance.
The team has Frederic at $3.85MM, Henrique at $3MM, Janmark at $1.45MM...Clattenburg is $828K. Howard is $950K. Quinn Hutson is $875K. Jarventie is $775K. The savings there is definitely enough to upgrade on goalie...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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inverno76
Messages: 2502
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
2 Cups
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 09:49 |
| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 09:35 |
| Mike wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 07:22 |
| HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 10:01 |
Frederic was legitimately terrible. I remember a sequence in the game where he took a pass at our blue line on a breakout, and then skated the puck back into our zone with only one guy pressuring him... second guy comes in and they easily strip, and Seattle pressed in the zone after. What was he doing there? Why did he come back into our zone and give the puck away? That guy needs to screw his head on straight; he looks awwwwful so far.
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Can we not just sit him and bring Howard back? Or give Clattenberg his minutes, assuming he's not blind by now?
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Knoblauch said he had stitches above his eye. Hopefully it was just a near miss. The only thing I miss about the decade of darkness was seeing guys like him getting a chance to play in the NHL.
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We should do a lot more of it, to be honest. It's a lack of understanding of where to spend cap space when you're overpaying for fourth liners because they're older guys who can PK. Better off getting younger players in those spots, and teaching them what they need to know. It's not like the Oilers are just rolling four lines most games anyhow, so having younger, cheaper players with upside as your depth helps in a number of ways. They're developing playing in the best league, they're leaving more development room available for the next tier on the farm, they often are better offensively than the specialists the Oilers prefer (did you hear it was over 40 games since Janmark's last regular season goal?) so better able to move up the lineup if needed. And they're cheaper which means you can spend more money elsewhere in the lineup - like a goalie for instance.
The team has Frederic at $3.85MM, Henrique at $3MM, Janmark at $1.45MM...Clattenburg is $828K. Howard is $950K. Quinn Hutson is $875K. Jarventie is $775K. The savings there is definitely enough to upgrade on goalie...
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Vegas is a great example. Dorofeyev got a chance early and he's developed into a legit NHL'er and now they have undrafted Braeden Bowman who I had never heard of scoring at almost a ppg pace. Agreed that Cup teams need youth and ELC deals sprinkled throughout the lineup if you want a balanced team. Cheap vets are a crapshoot. The league is getting faster and when the wheels fall off a vet it is not usually a gradual process.
Janmark is our throwback to yesteryear. A modern day Tobey Petersen, but somehow secured a multi-year deal.
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Kr55
Messages: 12254
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 09:34 |
| g2k wrote on Thu, 04 December 2025 21:50 |
We are so back.
Extend Lazar and Mangy Pangy NOW.
If there is anyone remaining on this team without an NMC, change that NOW.
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Fun game to watch, but definitely don't love some of the conclusions the Oilers broadcast team was coming up with. Jack blathered on about how the Oilers schedule for the first two months was the real culprit for why we find ourselves out of a playoff spot, and from the way he makes it sound, home games just kind of win themselves I guess. We have some lengthy homestands in the second half, so it's almost like a guarantee that we roll.
Also some talk early about Skinner's bounceback after the Dallas game and how good he's been in the two games since. Rishaug also beating that drum yesterday. Here's hoping the rosy analysis stops at the talking heads and that the actual management of the team isn't swayed by a couple games without getting lit up, or a game where we blow out an opponent.
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How many times have we done this dance? Start poorly with goaltending playing a major role in handicapping the start of our seasons. Finally get a hot run around December. Ups and down through the year still leading to guys having to go all out for a decent playoff position, sometimes ending up injured just in time for playoffs. Goaltending proceeds to bite us in the rear again when it matters most in playoffs.
Oilers media gang always so eager to cheer for status quo in net. They really never want to see this team win a cup. Skinner getting his rare hot run should be only seen as an opportunity to sell to finally upgrade that position.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 5579
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
5 Cups
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| HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 05 December 2025 06:01 |
Frederic was legitimately terrible. I remember a sequence in the game where he took a pass at our blue line on a breakout, and then skated the puck back into our zone with only one guy pressuring him... second guy comes in and they easily strip, and Seattle pressed in the zone after. What was he doing there? Why did he come back into our zone and give the puck away? That guy needs to screw his head on straight; he looks awwwwful so far.
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I remember that sequence .. just shook my head.. perfect example and summary of his game right now.. tried to skate away from trouble.. except he's too slow, and puck handling ability is too weak..
I keep looking for occasional bright spots to provde some level of optimism he'll improve but I've seen nothing so far, Lazar might even be better.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 5579
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
5 Cups
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Update on Clattenburg's eye injury last night.. great news.
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Tony Brar π@TonyBrarOTV
Kris Knoblauch shares Clattenburg had some stitches above his eye but heβs doing well. #Oilers
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McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!! (Thank you Lord!)
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
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