"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

tardigrade81 wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 18:52

We might get a goal this period

...u were right. Any more this period?

...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).

Survivor LX(I) and 67 Champ(i)on

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 30 January 2020 12:21

und(i)sputed O.L.F.N Heavybra(i)n Champ(i)on of the Woooooooooooooooooorld. Plus. One.

...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).

Survivor LX(I) and 67 Champ(i)on

CrusaderPi wrote on Thu, 30 January 2020 12:21

und(i)sputed O.L.F.N Heavybra(i)n Champ(i)on of the Woooooooooooooooooorld. Plus. One.

PlusOne wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 19:23

watchman wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 20:21 PlusOne wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 19:12 If the media, and some fans, drive Bouchard out of Edmonton I'm going to be livid. The guy makes a couple mistakes but he does things one the ice that MAYBE ten other defenceman in the league can do. The ratio of good to bad is worth every time and I can't believe that some think he is the problem. I can ignore a couple defensive gaffes to gain the dozen or so special plays he makes per game. ...the only way Bouch will be gone is if he thinks he's worth more than Nurse. Depends on what you mean by worth more. Worth more than what Nurse is paid, no but close. Worth more than what market value is for Nurse, yes. I am not one who hates Nurse but he is overpaid. Bouchard is a rare talent, the puck moving, offensive RHD that every team wishes they had.

Bouch has regressed from last year. Less physical in his own zone. Zero goals on the PP. Anyone can do that. His defensive lapses usually result in one or two zone breakaways.
...he's certainly a polarizing player. I guess he's certainly not horrible, but I can think of 4 other D on the team I would want defending late in a 1 goal game. Maybe 5, but I haven't seen Klingberg enough.

...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 19:35

Impressive defensive effort so far. Stu has only really been tested a couple of times & he came up big on both. Still wish they'd run 97 & 29 on different lines...

...gotta agree with that one. On the same line lets the opposition only have to shut down 1 line. If they are separated... Two lines, each having a world class centre, is a whole different problem. And then Nuge doesn't have to drive a second line. He can offer matchup problems against weaker competition as a 3C.

Nobby is really saying this team doesn't have the depth to support 29/97 on their individual lines. And he might be right, based on the ineffectiveness of 53 and 33 who were brought in to score goals.

That said, nothing would be wrong with starting 97/29 apart and then panicking in the 3rd if need be.

...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).

...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

watchman wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 19:45

PlusOne wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 19:23 watchman wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 20:21 PlusOne wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 19:12 If the media, and some fans, drive Bouchard out of Edmonton I'm going to be livid. The guy makes a couple mistakes but he does things one the ice that MAYBE ten other defenceman in the league can do. The ratio of good to bad is worth every time and I can't believe that some think he is the problem. I can ignore a couple defensive gaffes to gain the dozen or so special plays he makes per game. ...the only way Bouch will be gone is if he thinks he's worth more than Nurse. Depends on what you mean by worth more. Worth more than what Nurse is paid, no but close. Worth more than what market value is for Nurse, yes. I am not one who hates Nurse but he is overpaid. Bouchard is a rare talent, the puck moving, offensive RHD that every team wishes they had. Bouch has regressed from last year. Less physical in his own zone. Zero goals on the PP. Anyone can do that. His defensive lapses usually result in one or two zone breakaways. ...he's certainly a polarizing player. I guess he's certainly not horrible, but I can think of 4 other D on the team I would want defending late in a 1 goal game. Maybe 5, but I haven't seen Klingberg enough.

There's an awful lot of Oilers fans who are just dreadful at assessing defencemen. They only remember a couple bad plays and have super-selective memories - remembering more the mistakes of the players that they don't like (usually the offensive defencemen) and immediately forgetting the mistakes of the ones they do like (usually the physical guy who does nothing else of use).

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

97.

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

Adam wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 20:02

watchman wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 19:45 PlusOne wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 19:23 watchman wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 20:21 PlusOne wrote on Tue, 04 February 2025 19:12 If the media, and some fans, drive Bouchard out of Edmonton I'm going to be livid. The guy makes a couple mistakes but he does things one the ice that MAYBE ten other defenceman in the league can do. The ratio of good to bad is worth every time and I can't believe that some think he is the problem. I can ignore a couple defensive gaffes to gain the dozen or so special plays he makes per game. ...the only way Bouch will be gone is if he thinks he's worth more than Nurse. Depends on what you mean by worth more. Worth more than what Nurse is paid, no but close. Worth more than what market value is for Nurse, yes. I am not one who hates Nurse but he is overpaid. Bouchard is a rare talent, the puck moving, offensive RHD that every team wishes they had. Bouch has regressed from last year. Less physical in his own zone. Zero goals on the PP. Anyone can do that. His defensive lapses usually result in one or two zone breakaways. ...he's certainly a polarizing player. I guess he's certainly not horrible, but I can think of 4 other D on the team I would want defending late in a 1 goal game. Maybe 5, but I haven't seen Klingberg enough. There's an awful lot of Oilers fans who are just dreadful at assessing defencemen. They only remember a couple bad plays and have super-selective memories - remembering more the mistakes of the players that they don't like (usually the offensive defencemen) and immediately forgetting the mistakes of the ones they do like (usually the physical guy who does nothing else of use). ...but more to the point. Are u disagreeing that Bouch has regressed from his playoff form of last year? And that u would have him on the ice in the last minute of a one goal game? Its OK to think that. Personally, I have said that he is not a horrible player. Just one who I would question being worth 10M or more dollars. But the market is the market... like it or not.

...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

...of course I might want 2 on the ice with the goalie pulled when u absolutely, positively need to score a goal.

...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).