| 2024 training camp thread [message #837925] |
Wed, 18 September 2024 11:19  |
 benv
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So with the announcement this morning of Mike Hoffman joining training camp on a PTO, it's time to get a general training camp thread going.
Here are the full list of players that will be at camp:
Forwards (32)
Arvidsson
Berglund
Brown, C
Caggiula
De Jong
Draisaitl
Griffith
Grubbe
Hamblin
Henrique
Hoffman
Hyman
Janmark
Jarventie
Kane
Lavoie
McDavid
Nicholl
Nugent-Hopkins
O'Reilly
Pederson
Perry
Petrov
Philip
Podkolzin
Ryan
Savoie
Skinner, J
Stefan
Stonehouse
Wakely
Wright
Defensemen (17)
Akey
Bouchard
Brown, J
Carrick
Corcorcan
Dermott
Dineen
Ekholm
Emberson
Gleason
Hoefenmayer
Kannok-Leipert
Kemp
Kulak
Nurse
Stetcher
Wanner
Goalies (6)
Day
Delia
Pickard
Rodrigue
Skinner, S
Ungar
We already know that Kane will miss the whole thing and Nurse and Akey will miss at least the beginning. If Hoffman can show a bit of that old scoring touch, he could be an interesting add.
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Skookum Jim
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Can't believe Lajoie isn't there.. unless his playing for U of A Bears this season make attending an NHL training camp disqualify him for CIAU eligibility ?
Lajoie was the best defenseman at the prospects tourney IMHO
Long shot: Connor Corcoran on defense (RHD) may surprise.
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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Rocksteady
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Okay folks... how do I miss Podkolzin?
Never heard about him at all and never knew he was a 4th round pick trade from the Canucks?
A first round 10th overall pick in 2019? Traded for a pick? No work on this board either. You failed me... ALL OF YOU!
(not really, it was posted in this forum)
How did this skate by me?
He's being shaped out as the next version of Klim. Could he be?
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
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Skookum Jim
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| Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 09:37 |
Okay folks... how do I miss Podkolzin?
Never heard about him at all and never knew he was a 4th round pick trade from the Canucks?
A first round 10th overall pick in 2019? Traded for a pick? No work on this board either. You failed me... ALL OF YOU!
(not really, it was posted in this forum)
How did this skate by me?
He's being shaped out as the next version of Klim. Could he be?
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You must have been enjoying your BBQ season down at the lake! :)
He's Russian, solid, plays with an edge.. so I can see some similarities with The Klim Reaper.. but they're really different players.. Klim was eager to scrap and initiate a scrum.. I don't really see Podz in that role..
Podz might have some more upside for offense though. From what I saw of him in Vancouver I think Podz is a conscientious player.. coachable.. not a flake.. I suspect he got lost in Vancouver with the coaching turnover.. has some skill.. decent skating.. great shot.. this is his chance to get a second opinion.
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McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Skookum Jim
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1st TC session.. GROUP 1
Good to see Akey out there..
Roby Jarventie isn't going to participate in camp.. still recovering from last season knee surgery.. bummer.
No idea who Wright is.. not listed on any lists ???
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Group 1
RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Podkolzin-Ryan-Perry
Lavoie-Pederson-Savoie
Wright-O'Reilly-Stefan
Clattenburg-Grubbe-De Jong
Kulak-Brown
Nurse-Emberson
Dineen-Carrick
Hoeffenmayer/Kannock-Leipert
Akey
Skinner
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McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Kr55
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Mike Hoffman finally finds his way to Edmonton, half a decade late. Wonder if he would sign one of those 1M "I want to win a cup" deals. Another shooter to add to the mix.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Rocksteady
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 11:50 |
You must have been enjoying your BBQ season down at the lake! :)
He's Russian, solid, plays with an edge.. so I can see some similarities with The Klim Reaper.. but they're really different players.. Klim was eager to scrap and initiate a scrum.. I don't really see Podz in that role..
Podz might have some more upside for offense though. From what I saw of him in Vancouver I think Podz is a conscientious player.. coachable.. not a flake.. I suspect he got lost in Vancouver with the coaching turnover.. has some skill.. decent skating.. great shot.. this is his chance to get a second opinion.
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I feel..... seen. lol
Thanks for the intel, thrilled he's part of us and saw him on the second line with Perry and Ryan, two real strong vets of the game. Agreed he's not a flake, just needs to find his jam and I bet Knoblauch is the guy to get it out of him.
Looking forward to it.
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The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
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Kr55
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Jack Michaels @EdmontonJack
Back to work.
Lines look to be as suspected:
RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Podkolzin-Ryan-Perry
One other dynamic to keep an eye on. Seems like Jack is on the ozempic diet and rapidly shrinking.
Bob taking up double the screen space as him now on these panel discussions.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Skookum Jim
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 19:23 |
[i].. One other dynamic to keep an eye on. Seems like Jack is on the ozempic diet and rapidly shrinking.
Bob taking up double the screen space as him now on these panel discussions.
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Kinda related.. It was funny on ON yesterday.. Stauffer tells a story when Seravelli and Stauffer were in Edmonton at some restaurant or bar together.. they were both standing outside the restaurant talking.. along with two women who were out there vaping .. and one of the women says to them .. ".. are you two guys brothers?"
.. so after he tells the story Stauffer starts laughing and says to Seravelli on the show.. "I think a part of you died that day!.."
At least Stauffer has a sense of humour about himself.
It was on the same program that Bob talked about potential RHD solutions out there with Seravelli.. he talks about Schultz.. and Seravelli brings up De Angelo.. says its unbelievable he isn't signed to a PTO yet.. thinks he's the best UFA option out there.. then Bob asks him what he thinks about Rasmus Ristolainen in Philly (Frank lives there and knows the Philly team) .. Frank figures he's not that good.. better other options out there..
This is the 2nd or 3rd time Bob brought up Ristolainen's name as a possibility.. so where there is smoke.. ????
Problem with acquiring Ristolainen is his cap hit is $5.1M for 2 more years.. even if you got Philly to eat 1/2 thats still $2.55.. you'd likely need a 3rd party to eat another 1/2 ..
The assets required to eat the cap would be pretty substantial.. and Oilers prospects and draft pick cupboards are pretty skint..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
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Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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mightyreasoner
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I'm kind of surprised they aren't moving forward initially with Janmark-Ryan-Brown after the playoff run they had.
I'd put Podkolzin with Henrique and then let Perry / Hoffman / Savoie fight for that third line spot.
RNH - McDavid - Hyman
Skinner - Draisaitl - Arvidsson
Podkolzin - Henrique - _______
Janmark - Ryan - Brown
Lavoie, Perry/Hoffman
Also discouraging to see Josh Brown starting with Kulak. Brown shouldn't be more than a #7. Wasn't he deemed the worst defenseman in the NHL last year? I know the Oilers defense is bad, but... Stetcher? Dermott?
Lots of time for things to shake out, but what is training camp without these type of observations?
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Jay
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 22:41 |
I'm kind of surprised they aren't moving forward initially with Janmark-Ryan-Brown after the playoff run they had.
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You didn't like the Henrique brown janmark line in the payoffs?? Interesting.. That was the best third line id seen on any team in a long time.
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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Kr55
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| Jay wrote on Fri, 20 September 2024 07:50 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 22:41 |
I'm kind of surprised they aren't moving forward initially with Janmark-Ryan-Brown after the playoff run they had.
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You didn't like the Henrique brown janmark line in the payoffs?? Interesting.. That was the best third line id seen on any team in a long time.
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Protect Henrique's ankles at all costs!
That line does have potential to be a very good 3rd line. Henrique never really got to show his best with us yet.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Adam
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 22:07 |
| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 19:23 |
[i].. One other dynamic to keep an eye on. Seems like Jack is on the ozempic diet and rapidly shrinking.
Bob taking up double the screen space as him now on these panel discussions.
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Kinda related.. It was funny on ON yesterday.. Stauffer tells a story when Seravelli and Stauffer were in Edmonton at some restaurant or bar together.. they were both standing outside the restaurant talking.. along with two women who were out there vaping .. and one of the women says to them .. ".. are you two guys brothers?"
.. so after he tells the story Stauffer starts laughing and says to Seravelli on the show.. "I think a part of you died that day!.."
At least Stauffer has a sense of humour about himself.
It was on the same program that Bob talked about potential RHD solutions out there with Seravelli.. he talks about Schultz.. and Seravelli brings up De Angelo.. says its unbelievable he isn't signed to a PTO yet.. thinks he's the best UFA option out there.. then Bob asks him what he thinks about Rasmus Ristolainen in Philly (Frank lives there and knows the Philly team) .. Frank figures he's not that good.. better other options out there..
This is the 2nd or 3rd time Bob brought up Ristolainen's name as a possibility.. so where there is smoke.. ????
Problem with acquiring Ristolainen is his cap hit is $5.1M for 2 more years.. even if you got Philly to eat 1/2 thats still $2.55.. you'd likely need a 3rd party to eat another 1/2 ..
The assets required to eat the cap would be pretty substantial.. and Oilers prospects and draft pick cupboards are pretty skint..
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I heard DeAngelo was still active on social media and not shy about some pretty fringe views. I suspect that teams are worried about him being a distraction. If he's playing at the top of his game, you can put up with a bit of a sideshow, but when he's only playing half the games and one of the worst defenders on his team last year, it makes it difficult to overlook those things and you're more likely to pick one of the other borderline guys over him.
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mightyreasoner
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| Jay wrote on Fri, 20 September 2024 07:50 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 22:41 |
I'm kind of surprised they aren't moving forward initially with Janmark-Ryan-Brown after the playoff run they had.
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You didn't like the Henrique brown janmark line in the payoffs?? Interesting.. That was the best third line id seen on any team in a long time.
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Henrique is interesting because is actually an excellent two-way player and would be in the Top-6 on most NHL teams. He is good for 40-50 points per season.
Looking at the wingers, I'm just trying to see who has the offensive ability to compliment that? Janmark and Brown, despite excellent playoffs, each only had 12 points in 71 games last year. Hoffman in the past has had the ability, but it is fair to question if he still does. Perry no longer does. Podkolzin hasn't shown the ability to yet, but he's still a prospect who might have more to give. Savoie seems like the most likely to have that offensive ability, but is a bubble player to make the club this year.
In my mind, I don't think I'm looking to Janmark and Brown for a lot of offense, though if they are able to bring some, that would be great. I'd love it if Brown and Janmark were their playoff selves for a whole season, but I'm always a little hesitant to assume that a productive post-season will translate into a productive regular season moving forward, especially with a past track record indicating it may be unlikely.
I am looking for some decent depth offense from Henrique and whoever his wingers are. If Henrique can elevate Brown and Janmark to 20 point players, but in turn he becomes a 30 point player instead of a 45 point player, is that good asset management? Is that enough offensive depth for this team? I'm honestly not sure.
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Adam
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 20 September 2024 08:36 |
| Jay wrote on Fri, 20 September 2024 07:50 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 19 September 2024 22:41 |
I'm kind of surprised they aren't moving forward initially with Janmark-Ryan-Brown after the playoff run they had.
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You didn't like the Henrique brown janmark line in the payoffs?? Interesting.. That was the best third line id seen on any team in a long time.
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Protect Henrique's ankles at all costs!
That line does have potential to be a very good 3rd line. Henrique never really got to show his best with us yet.
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I wonder how many games Derek Ryan sees this year. He looked slower and slower last year. I'm not sure he's an every day NHLer any more.
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Skookum Jim
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 20 September 2024 09:03 |
.. I heard DeAngelo was still active on social media and not shy about some pretty fringe views.
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Doesn't seem to have a twitter/X account .. think he burned his X back in 2021.. I couldn't find any other social media platform he's on.. have you seen any?
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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mightyreasoner
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My guess (and it's just a guess) is that Derek Ryan plays most of the season at 4C, but that Corey Perry moves in and out of the lineup on 3/4 RW. I just don't see who else they have penciled in for that that fourth line center position, but the are flush with bottom six wingers.
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Skookum Jim
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Has anybody watched Wanner so far and seen anything to lead you to believe he's anywhere near NHL level (yet) ?
I'm just wondering because I've been seeing rave reviews and projections of him in local media.. some even thinking he could step in for games this season.. but I just haven't seen it.. way too many weaknesses and doesn't seem to be able to separate himself by ability.. mobility especially.. whenever K. Gretzky is asked about him he comments that he has a lot of work to do.. pretty luke warm assessment.. which is essentially what I see.. but not what most media seem to..
I want to believe it, and really hoped to, but honestly haven't..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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mightyreasoner
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 20 September 2024 12:38 |
Has anybody watched Wanner so far and seen anything to lead you to believe he's anywhere near NHL level (yet) ?
I'm just wondering because I've been seeing rave reviews and projections of him in local media.. some even thinking he could step in for games this season.. but I just haven't seen it.. way too many weaknesses and doesn't seem to be able to separate himself by ability.. mobility especially.. whenever K. Gretzky is asked about him he comments that he has a lot of work to do.. pretty luke warm assessment.. which is essentially what I see.. but not what most media seem to..
I want to believe it, and really hoped to, but honestly haven't..
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I do feel like the local media hype of young players (but especially young defenseman) way too much. It wasn't long ago we were hearing about how Samorukov and Niemelainen were the next pillars of defense for years to come. Neither can crack the NHL lineups with regularity.
David Musil. Griffin Reinhart. Guys like Caleb Jones, Ethan Bear, and William Lagesson seem unlikely to clear 300 games. Jury is out on Vincent Desharnais, Philip Broberg, and Michael Kesselring.
So we will see about Wanner and Akey. I'm not down on their prospects, I just don't really hold the local media's assessment real highly.
Speaking of Wanner, he's another image rehabilitation guy for them.
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Skookum Jim
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 20 September 2024 12:17 |
..I do feel like the local media hype of young players (but especially young defenseman) way too much. It wasn't long ago we were hearing about how Samorukov and Niemelainen were the next pillars of defense for years to come. Neither can crack the NHL lineups with regularity.
David Musil. Griffin Reinhart. Guys like Caleb Jones, Ethan Bear, and William Lagesson seem unlikely to clear 300 games. Jury is out on Vincent Desharnais, Philip Broberg, and Michael Kesselring.
So we will see about Wanner and Akey. I'm not down on their prospects, I just don't really hold the local media's assessment real highly.
Speaking of Wanner, he's another image rehabilitation guy for them.
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I actually feel positive on Akey.. I saw him at the prospects last year at 18, and he was the Oilers best D prospect there.. kid has awesome wheels and mobility.. has the hands to go with it.. high puck IQ.. his on-ice play actually distanced himself from the rest.. including the Jets, Canucks, Flames prospects.. best D man I saw.. I can't say the same about Wanner.. definite disconnect from the media to what I see on the ice...
On the other thread (Minors), I mentioned Marc Lajoie (camp invite, playing for U of A this season) as the best defenceman I saw for the Oilers at the prospects tournament (IMHO) .. he's the size of Desharnais (6'-6") but more agile, better skater, and very puck smart.. was the WHL's leading goal scorer for defencemen last season with the Oil Kings.. I think he's got a great chance of being an NHL'er.. not sure why they didn't bring him up for training camp.. 
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McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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First pre-season game tonight.. that was quick! ? .. vs Winni
Supposed to be on Oilers+ .. anyone know if its free?
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 22 September 2024 15:21 |
First pre-season game tonight.. that was quick! ? .. vs Winni
Supposed to be on Oilers+ .. anyone know if its free?
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psst...check the stickied thread in the OT ;)
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Adam
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Big win last night. Sounds like Savoie made an impression and he and Podkolzin contributed on the winner. Goal scorers were Sam O'Reilly, Raph Lavoie and Cam Dineen.
Game 2 tonight versus the Flames and we're using a lot more veteran-laden lineup this time.
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| Adam wrote on Mon, 23 September 2024 12:57 |
Big win last night. Sounds like Savoie made an impression and he and Podkolzin contributed on the winner. Goal scorers were Sam O'Reilly, Raph Lavoie and Cam Dineen.
Game 2 tonight versus the Flames and we're using a lot more veteran-laden lineup this time.
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It's actually two games--one in each city.
According to Gregor the home game will feature:
RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Podkolzin-Draisaitl-Lavoie
Petrov-Philp-Perry
Clattenburg-Wakely-Griffith
Ekholm-Bouchard
Hoefenmayer-Kemp
Corcoran & Kannok-Leipert
Rodrigues
Ungar
With all the power play guys there, I would think a power play should be an automatic goal with the scrubs I expect Calgary will send to Edmonton.
Lineup for the game in Cowtown:
J. Skinner-Henrique-Arvidsson
Savoie-O'Reilly-Caggiula
Hoffman-Pederson-Ryan
Stefan-Grubbe-Weatherby
Dermott-Brown
Dineen-Stecher
Gleason-Wanner
Delia
Day
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Kr55
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| benv wrote on Mon, 23 September 2024 14:15 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 23 September 2024 12:57 |
Big win last night. Sounds like Savoie made an impression and he and Podkolzin contributed on the winner. Goal scorers were Sam O'Reilly, Raph Lavoie and Cam Dineen.
Game 2 tonight versus the Flames and we're using a lot more veteran-laden lineup this time.
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It's actually two games--one in each city.
According to Gregor the home game will feature:
RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Podkolzin-Draisaitl-Lavoie
Petrov-Philp-Perry
Clattenburg-Wakely-Griffith
Ekholm-Bouchard
Hoefenmayer-Kemp
Corcoran & Kannok-Leipert
Rodrigues
Ungar
With all the power play guys there, I would think a power play should be an automatic goal with the scrubs I expect Calgary will send to Edmonton.
Lineup for the game in Cowtown:
J. Skinner-Henrique-Arvidsson
Savoie-O'Reilly-Caggiula
Hoffman-Pederson-Ryan
Stefan-Grubbe-Weatherby
Dermott-Brown
Dineen-Stecher
Gleason-Wanner
Delia
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Really think we need to get away from Nuge on the top line. That was a huge handicap for McDavid in the finals when Hyman fell off a cliff from just taking way too much damage the first 3 rounds. Nuge was fit as a fiddle, but he's just invisible on any McDavid rush. Final was just McDavid vs the world with Hyman, Drai and Kane all done. Nuge is just such a weak sauce 5v5 offensive player.
Hopefully they try some other guys on McDavid's LW soon. Really want to see Skinner tried. Skinner is all rush and chaos offense. Defense a concern of course. Ek and Bouch can cover :)
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Location: Edmonton
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Our A-team losing 4-1 to Calgary scrubs.
Pack it up boys. Better luck next year!
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
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LOL. This is an interesting effort.
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HamBlaster
Messages: 989
Registered: June 2007
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Holy hangover, Bowman. This near to A-level Oilers squad is being taken to the woodshed by a bunch of Flames nobodies in this one. I know it's preseason, but what a horrible game.
Am I hearing this correctly... are people booing??
[Updated on: Mon, 23 September 2024 21:13]
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mightyreasoner
Messages: 520
Registered: October 2005
Location: Edmonton
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| HamBlaster wrote on Mon, 23 September 2024 21:02 |
Holy hangover, Bowman. This near to A-level Oilers squad is being taken to the woodshed by a bunch of Flames nobodies in this one. I know it's preseason, but what a horrible game.
Am I hearing this correctly... are people booing??
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Pickard with a sparkling .733 save percentage in this one.
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Hibernia
Messages: 101
Registered: October 1998
Location: Sin John's
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| HamBlaster wrote on Tue, 24 September 2024 00:32 |
Holy hangover, Bowman. This near to A-level Oilers squad is being taken to the woodshed by a bunch of Flames nobodies in this one. I know it's preseason, but what a horrible game.
Am I hearing this correctly... are people booing??
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The Oilers are getting the slow start out of the way early this year, before it matters.
What happened to all of my messages? lol (I guess it's been awhile) BlueSky: StefBarnes
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Rocksteady
Messages: 527
Registered: March 2007
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Preseason doesn't matter I hear.
It's true, it doesn't.
But .733 Picks? At least look like you care? If you are tryin' I'm worried.
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Rocksteady wrote on Tue, 24 September 2024 08:54 |
Preseason doesn't matter I hear.
It's true, it doesn't.
But .733 Picks? At least look like you care? If you are tryin' I'm worried.
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Meh - no one should care. First skate and for most of these players it's totally meaningless. Oh well, we lost a shinny game.
We can get drubbed all pre-season and it still won't matter.
Hoffman scored in Calgary though in his attempt to make the team...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Rocksteady
Messages: 527
Registered: March 2007
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| Adam wrote on Tue, 24 September 2024 10:56 |
Hoffman scored in Calgary though in his attempt to make the team...
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Hoffman interests me.. too bad we couldn't get him some years back. I'm glad he's here and I look forward to seeing if he finds a spot. Going to be tough on this team, others? He may have something here.
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Rocksteady wrote on Tue, 24 September 2024 13:01 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 24 September 2024 10:56 |
Hoffman scored in Calgary though in his attempt to make the team...
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Hoffman interests me.. too bad we couldn't get him some years back. I'm glad he's here and I look forward to seeing if he finds a spot. Going to be tough on this team, others? He may have something here.
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Wonder if he still has wheels. Didn't catch him playing at all in the pre-season game.
Could be a nice bit of offense to plug into the bottom 6. Bet he still can shoot well.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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benv
Messages: 601
Registered: May 2006
Location: Edmonton
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Four guys sent back to their OHL teams today:
Nathaniel Day and Connor Clattenburg (Flint)
William Nichol (London)
Dalyn Wakely (Brampton)
All four are 2023 (Day) or 2024 (other three) draft picks.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| benv wrote on Tue, 24 September 2024 12:39 |
Four guys sent back to their OHL teams today:
Nathaniel Day and Connor Clattenburg (Flint)
William Nichol (London)
Dalyn Wakely (Brampton)
All four are 2023 (Day) or 2024 (other three) draft picks.
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Of the 2024's.. looks like they kept O'Reilly for another go.. surprised they never gave Nichol a spot in the Calgary games.. he was one of the most notable to me in Penticton.. great wheels.. good skills..
Expect Nichol and O.Reilly will have both great seasons in London.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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benv
Messages: 601
Registered: May 2006
Location: Edmonton
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Looks like mostly the B-team with the A goalie playing in Winnipeg tonight.
Savoie – Pederson – Arvidsson
Janmark – O’Reilly – Brown
Hoffman – Philp – Griffith
Caggiula – Hamblin – Ryan
Kulak – Emberson
Dineen – Wanner
Hoefenmeyer – Carrick
Skinner
Delia
Should give Skinner a good test.
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Adam mentioned Chytil almost being lost in pre-season.
It was interesting that we played our top D pair 28:30 and 26:30 in a nothing game against Calgary scrubs in their first competative action of the year. 25 and 24 even strength minutes.
A way to get guys up to speed faster? Or were the other 4 D just that painful for the coach to watch? :)
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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