| Recap of Free Agency [message #837338] |
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 smyth260
Messages: 1080
Registered: November 2007
1 Cup
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—————— 1 Way Signings ——————
C/LW Adam Henrique - Age 34 - 2 yr - 3M AAV
RD Troy Stecher - Age 30 - 2 yr - 787.5K AAV
RD Josh Brown - Age 30 - 3 yr - 1M AAV
LW/RW Matthias Janmark - Age 31 - 3 yr - 1.45M AAV
LW Jeff Skinner - Age 32 - 1 yr - 3M AAV
RW Viktor Arvidsson - Age 31 - 2 yr - 4M AAV
RW Corey Perry - Age 34 - 1 yr - 1.15AAV with 285K
RW Connor Brown - Age 30 - 1 yr - 1M AAV
G Calvin Pickard - Age 32 - 2 yr - 1M AAV
—————— 2 Way Signings ——————
C Noah Philp - Age 25 - 1 yr - 775K AAV
C James Hamblin - Age 25 - 2 yr - 775K AAV
RD Connor Carrick - Age 30 - 1 yr - 775K AAV
G Colin Delia - Age 30 - 1 yr - 775K AAV
—————— Out ——————
RD Vincent Desharnais (VAN)
RW Warren Foegele (LA)
C Sam Carrick (NYR)
G Jack Campbell (DET)
—————— Unsigned RFA ——————
LW/C Dylan Holloway
LD Philip Broberg
—————— Unsigned UFA ——————
F Sam Gagner
F Adam Erne
—————— Projected Lines ——————
Nugent-Hopkins - McDavid - Hyman
J. Skinner - Draisaitl - Arvidsson
Janmark - Henrique - Brown
(Holloway) - McLeod - Perry
Kane (LTIR???), Ryan
Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - (Broberg)
Kulak - Ceci
Brown, Stecher
S. Skinner
Pickard
Cap Hit as of July 1st at midnight: 90.454M (2.454M over 88M Salary Cap)
I believe they are trending towards a Kane LTIR or trade to get the RFAs signed.
[Updated on: Tue, 02 July 2024 00:58]
Clean house or bust
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smyth260
Messages: 1080
Registered: November 2007
1 Cup
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Some thoughts:
It’s a little concerning how old this team is. Just 6 players under 30.
But definitely the best forwards on paper I’ve seen. Finishing was a problem last year and it would be surprising if that was the case this year.
That defense has to get better by deadline. It is still very vulnerable. Could get ugly as soon as an injury happens. And I would have rather seen a higher ceiling back up.
That said, a lot better free agency than any Holland year.
Clean house or bust
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Gator21
Messages: 175
Registered: February 2016
Location: Kelowna, BC
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RNH-McD-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Kane
Holloway-Henrique-Ardvisson
Janmark-McLeod-Brown
*Perry, Ryan
Absolutely stacked fwd group
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Hibernia
Messages: 101
Registered: October 1998
Location: Sin John's
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What a crazy day. Does JJ know he's working for the Oilers? We're not supposed to do stuff like this. lol
My only concern out of all of this is that the team is old by NHL standards. Luckily, none of the contracts are going to take a fragile player into the sunset years of their contract (I'm looking at you, Chris Tanev)
I've only seen one person who is mad about these contracts and that guy is mad about everything. (No, not Dennis)
I feel like this is a group that knows they have unfinished business. Could be another fun year coming up. Better get your rest in now.
What happened to all of my messages? lol (I guess it's been awhile) BlueSky: StefBarnes
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oilfan94
Messages: 408
Registered: June 2006
Location: USA
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I understand the concern about the age of some of the players, but on 1-2 year contracts I don't think it will be an issue. Two years from now a lot of this group will look very different and we can worry about that then. For now though, this is the kind of depth teams normally hope to have after the trade deadline.
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
5 Cups
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| Hibernia wrote on Tue, 02 July 2024 05:56 |
I've only seen one person who is mad about these contracts and that guy is mad about everything. (No, not Dennis)
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It’s RD, isn’t it? It’s gotta be RD.
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Hibernia
Messages: 101
Registered: October 1998
Location: Sin John's
No Cups
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| Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 02 July 2024 11:26 |
| Hibernia wrote on Tue, 02 July 2024 05:56 |
I've only seen one person who is mad about these contracts and that guy is mad about everything. (No, not Dennis)
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It’s RD, isn’t it? It’s gotta be RD.
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 Maybe. I don't know what his/her twitter handle is. Though in fairness, from my limited views of RD, I thought RD was just a GM-apologist who felt if you also weren't a GM-apologist then you were absolutely out to lunch on everything. Kinda like a MSM member.
What happened to all of my messages? lol (I guess it's been awhile) BlueSky: StefBarnes
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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| Hibernia wrote on Tue, 02 July 2024 05:56 |
What a crazy day. Does JJ know he's working for the Oilers? We're not supposed to do stuff like this. lol
My only concern out of all of this is that the team is old by NHL standards. Luckily, none of the contracts are going to take a fragile player into the sunset years of their contract (I'm looking at you, Chris Tanev)
I've only seen one person who is mad about these contracts and that guy is mad about everything. (No, not Dennis)
I feel like this is a group that knows they have unfinished business. Could be another fun year coming up. Better get your rest in now.
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It was a pretty impressive showing from a guy who doesn't want to be the GM. It almost looked like there was a plan - which would be a welcome change.
The age thing is a bit concerning, but also nothing new. Holland loooooves the old guys and the Oilers were the oldest team in the league last year - it's kind of weird, given that we were forever building around 18-year olds what seems like just 15 minutes ago.
My biggest concern is if the Stan Bowman rumours are true. I believe that they likely are, and that the Oilers sent up the trial balloon intentionally through the rumour mill yesterday in order to get a pulse on how much backlash there will be if they move forward there. There definitely is some backlash, but it hasn't been a deafening roar yet, so there's a good chance it happens. For anyone who can't remember what he did, Bowman & staff learned that one of their black aces was being molested by an assistant coach, and decided to not deal with it because they were on a playoff run. Then that summer they quietly parted ways with the assistant and gave him a reference which led to him working with minors - at least one of whom he sexually assaulted. Even if you somehow could rationalize a way to excuse their actions relative to Kris Beach, the Blackhawks execs have a direct line of culpability in the assault on a minor. I don't think it's fair to say they did anything criminal, but it's still pretty abhorrent behaviour and so I'm sure there's better options to be our GM.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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Pretty impressive day. Feels very different than any other UFA day I remember. Like others have said, feels weird to be an "old team". I was shocked when I heard that this year. Even more pronounced now. Oh well - not like they're 50. And the top guys are still right in their prime, so I'm not too bothered by it.
That forward group looks positively deadly. Goaltending - would have preferred a 1B type, but Skinner has shown he can be good at times, so might be enough. My biggest concern with the roster at the moment though is still what it was all year - D. Ekholm and Bouchard are awesome. Broberg is a player and shouldn't cost a fortune, but 99% certain it'll just be a bridge deal. No way his agent lets him sign long term. That leaves the rest:
Nurse - I see no way out of that contract, so we just need to hope and pray he gets back to being at least OK. Maybe we magically find someone to play with him and he finds his form again. One can only hope.
Kulak - I don't hate the player. Is $2.75m too much for him? I don't think he hurts us too much, but I wonder if that money could get someone better?
Ceci - well he has to go.
As for cap overrage: I'll go Google it - but in the meantime, what are the penalties for being over the cap?
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smyth260
Messages: 1080
Registered: November 2007
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I am guessing a cap overage is not in the plans.
What I think will happen is they will send 3 guys down before the season starts to get below cap, have a small roster on opening night, put Kane on LTIR, and then call those guys back up.
[Updated on: Tue, 02 July 2024 09:09]
Clean house or bust
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 02 July 2024 08:56 |
As for cap overrage: I'll go Google it - but in the meantime, what are the penalties for being over the cap?
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You can go over in the summer, but you have to always be compliant in the regular season, even if it means they need to reduce the roster size to make it work. You might remember the Flames and a couple other teams having some games with 17-18 man rosters for the last couple of the season a few years back.
There's a few things that can be done to get us compliant - some of those contracts can be sent to the minors where most or all of their cap isn't applicable. We can LTIR someone - almost certainly Kane if he is still here and has off-season surgery. And of course trades - so hopefully someone sees the value in Ceci and needs him on their roster. I already miss Arizona.
Also I believe there's a second buy-out window late this year. Again, far from ideal if we go that route, but it is an option.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Dragon_Matt
Messages: 766
Registered: January 2009
Location: edmonton
No Cups
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Maybe the plan is to only take 9 forwards into next season?
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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| smyth260 wrote on Tue, 02 July 2024 12:06 |
I am guessing a cap overage is not in the plans.
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Oh I know that. I was just curious what the penalties were.
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Rocksteady
Messages: 527
Registered: March 2007
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What overshadowed for me in the acquiring of awesomeness that JJ did is Stan Bowman. I am not sure how I will react to the news that he may be the next Oilers GM. Apathy most likely but that isn't being fair for what the organization chose to do in light of some very serious and now proven true allegations.
Love pieces to the puzzle for sure where you look on paper the team is a STACKED. Our defence behind Ekholm and Bouchard is suspect. You can't rely on Nurse being a top performer,;he's great when he's on but when he's not (and most of the time) he is just average.
Age is a thing but the win now window is closing, all hands on deck to do what it takes. We needed better 5x5 scoring and I think we added 2 significant pieces there.
Defence is still a concern, so I'm hoping for an upgrade there, although the cap sitch isn't all that great ATM.
If Bowman gets hired... I'm not sure how my fandom will be affected.
The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.
Generally Disappointed.
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lowebudget
Messages: 12
Registered: October 2004
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I can see Henrique, Arvidsson, Jeff Skinner, Connor Brown and Janmark all out-playing their contract value. Stecher is great value for under 800K. Pickard at 1M. I don't even mind the Perry contract so much. Josh Brown is maybe the only iffy one for me...mainly for term.
Overall, an A++
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Getting some value deals is really nice to see.
Do need a GM to make some trades now. D needs some fixing, need to clear up some cap space to do it.
Jackson has done well twice now, coach pick and deadline negotiations. All eyes on the GM pick now to put the finishing touches on this lineup.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Rutuu
Messages: 144
Registered: March 2011
Location: Brisbane
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Looking past this is our super power. I'll watch less Oiler games myself, but I feel like I'm in the minority.
Extensions coming out today for a few other teams. Also I'm curious if there is a Laine deal out there for us. Could cost us Broberg, but we might be able to get out from under Ceci at the same time. Too bad Brannstrom was already signed by Col.
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Ragnarok73
Messages: 2419
Registered: February 2011
2 Cups
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These deals are interesting, but there still haven’t been any big enough moves to address the team’s blue-line group which I find concerning. Hopefully it will be addressed by or before preseason starts. At the least, Ceci should be replaced with someone more solid…
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
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"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Rocksteady wrote on Tue, 02 July 2024 15:21 |
If Bowman gets hired... I'm not sure how my fandom will be affected.
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This would be a disgusting hire. I will be very disappointed if they go this route. And I don’t even care about his GM skills (which I don’t think are all that good)
I really hope they find another guy (JJ looks pretty good ATM)
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