[Updated on: Wed, 12 June 2024 23:16]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 13 June 2024 09:33

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 12 June 2024 23:25 inverno76 wrote on Wed, 12 June 2024 23:15 lowebudget wrote on Wed, 12 June 2024 20:43 With Patrick Laine requesting a trade or of Columbus, wondering if there will make be any appetite for a Nurse / Laine swap. Cap hit is almost identical, the main difference being 2 years left on Laine's contract vs. 6 for Nurse. Columbus could flip Provorov for help up front. Change of scenery might be good for Nurse. His spot filled by Broberg. Columbus has lots of good young pieces and adding Nurse would give them veteran leadership.Could be a win-win, most likely a pipe dream. Thoughts? Pipe dream. Columbus could simply buy out Laine if they had no bites. They are likely actively shopping him right now and a healthy Nurse is a hard sale, but with potentially a re-injured hip, a buyout proof contract and a NMC …. the math don’t math. LTIR and a trip to Robidas island is the greatest hope. One ray of hope though! Ken Holland is rumored to potentially be the next Columbus GM, and we all know you definitely could not get a player for free. Nurse + Campbell for Laine (2M retained) + 2nd. The very definition of not free. I mean, the exact same guy that gave Nurse elite #1D money must really want him right? I never considered the M. Night Shyamalan plot twist. I retract my last statement. I can see the presser already, "In my time in Edmonton uhhhhh, Nurse was a vocal leader in the dressing room and uhhhh, much like Kronwall was in Detroit where they both won Cups (see what I did there?) and uhhhh it is also on the ice that they uhhh provided physicality and uhhhh many forget that uhhhh Nurse is capable of quarterbacking an elite powerplay and uhhh play with special players on all of the uhhhh special teams. I have full uhhh faith that Nurse and the uhhh calming presence of Campbell is what uhhhh this team needs right now. Thank you."

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

lowebudget wrote on Wed, 12 June 2024 19:43

With Patrick Laine requesting a trade or of Columbus, wondering if there will make be any appetite for a Nurse / Laine swap. Cap hit is almost identical, the main difference being 2 years left on Laine's contract vs. 6 for Nurse. Columbus could flip Provorov for help up front. Change of scenery might be good for Nurse. His spot filled by Broberg. Columbus has lots of good young pieces and adding Nurse would give them veteran leadership.Could be a win-win, most likely a pipe dream. Thoughts?

Can you imagine the power play with a Laine bookend on the left side to Leon on the right?

Its just all the 5 on 5 in between you need to worry about..

and the cap..

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[Updated on: Thu, 13 June 2024 13:11]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Mike wrote on Fri, 14 June 2024 08:11

Adam wrote on Fri, 14 June 2024 01:15 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 June 2024 15:47 Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 13 June 2024 15:21 I can’t do OilersNation for the sole reason of not wanting to support anything Jason Gregor has a hand in. And yes, that includes DFO. Your choice. I don't agree with everything Gregor says but he does get access to players that as a fan, I would never get so its a way to get information and perspective from players which I think is important. There are people in here I don't particular care for in here but you have to take the good with the bad if you don't want to miss out on potentially good information. Jason Gregor gets access because he's a suck up to the Oilers organization. Carries water like nobody's business. And what makes it worse with Gregor that some of the others is that he likes to pretend that he doesn't and gets mortally offended by the suggestion that he does. And despite all that access, it's pretty meagre information he (or most of the other meat) gets, because they're petrified to ask any hard questions. How do you know he gets mortally offended? Do you have proof?

I used to listen to Gregor but at some point I think I had my fill and stopped. I think he saw Stauffer’s career path and decided to emulate that. Ironically after Dan Tencer left the Oilers I found him to be less insufferable on twitter. I think Gregor and him have swapped objective/pander roles in some weird cosmic Oilers dance.

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inverno76 wrote on Tue, 18 June 2024 09:00

nullterm wrote on Mon, 17 June 2024 23:23 Mike wrote on Fri, 14 June 2024 08:11 Adam wrote on Fri, 14 June 2024 01:15 RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 June 2024 15:47 Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 13 June 2024 15:21 I can’t do OilersNation for the sole reason of not wanting to support anything Jason Gregor has a hand in. And yes, that includes DFO. Your choice. I don't agree with everything Gregor says but he does get access to players that as a fan, I would never get so its a way to get information and perspective from players which I think is important. There are people in here I don't particular care for in here but you have to take the good with the bad if you don't want to miss out on potentially good information. Jason Gregor gets access because he's a suck up to the Oilers organization. Carries water like nobody's business. And what makes it worse with Gregor that some of the others is that he likes to pretend that he doesn't and gets mortally offended by the suggestion that he does. And despite all that access, it's pretty meagre information he (or most of the other meat) gets, because they're petrified to ask any hard questions. How do you know he gets mortally offended? Do you have proof? I used to listen to Gregor but at some point I think I had my fill and stopped. I think he saw Stauffer’s career path and decided to emulate that. Ironically after Dan Tencer left the Oilers I found him to be less insufferable on twitter. I think Gregor and him have swapped objective/pander roles in some weird cosmic Oilers dance. I will listen to the DFO because I like Frank, but I do not have much time for Gregor's takes. Especially his defiance on ref's using game management. I texted in to the show one day when when he was on his soap box and still working for 1260, and he wanted me to call in, but I knew I would sound like a bumbling idiot so I declined. I do not respond well to fast paced conversations. My point was coming from my experience in reffing games, the way Hockey Sask gives feedback and from a few WHL linesmen that I know. The instructions given do not say to manage the game, but in the same breath you are told to be aware of the score, lopsided penalties to one team and not every penalty needs to be a penalty. Gregor dismissed everything I said and talked down to me (via text, so it I will admit that it was my interpretation). Plus he defends Mark Spector to no end.

I've had a few exchanges with Gregor over the years, some by email, some by twitter - most recently regarding his praise of Holland before this series. He's not very good at debate. He has a tendency to just repeat some line that he's said in his most recent column, and then to try to act dismissive and then, presented with facts, going silent. If on twitter, usually some twitter troll will then jump to his defence with some inane argument that shows zero understanding or reading comprehension.

I do find that the best way to make certain he responds on twitter is to obliquely suggest he's a bootlicker or carries water for the team. Despite the fact he's become more and more cravenly bound to the team management, he just despises the idea of admitting that to his audience.

The Edmonton sports media is just full of old guys who got lucky enough to land their dream job 20-50 years ago, and are so worried that that gravy train is coming to a stop any day that they're willing to do anything to keep from landing on the outs with the team.

I mean, it was almost all over for Gregor a couple years ago when TSN pulled the plug on radio, so he may feel like he was THIS close to having to go get a real job at ~50 years old. Had to be terrifying. Most of these guys have seen a lot of colleagues laid off over the years, and because of the state of that industry, no young guys can really afford to be in the business. Look at Jonathan Willis, who just couldn't afford to be in media, despite being better than almost all the other options in Edmonton.

I'm suddenly sounding sympathetic to the Edmonton media, but I do think all the above means that the survivors are often not the people who would have ideally still been around because the secret to surviving in this market hasn't been about being a good writer, or insightful or being able to comprehend and tell the game...it's more just a mix of clickbait and sycophantism, which I believe may be the actual parents of Mark Spector!

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[Updated on: Wed, 19 June 2024 16:26]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000