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Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #833969] |
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 g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
2 Cups
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#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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0.900 goaltending ftw
Love that Bouch lad
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
2 Cups
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I don’t give a damn. Start Pickard Thursday.
He’s got confidence.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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MJ
Messages: 267
Registered: November 1997
Location: Victoria
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Fantastic birthday present for you there, g2k. Happy Birthday! What a game, glad I could watch this one!
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tardigrade81
Messages: 2262
Registered: November 2022
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan
2 Cups
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Incredible
Good night Oiler fans!
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Suomalainen
Messages: 900
Registered: May 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
No Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:18 |
0.900 goaltending ftw
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This tbh
97.
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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YAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
That's a huge, huge goal.
Big win.
I would go back to Skinner for Game 5.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
2 Cups
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| MJ wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:19 |
Fantastic birthday present for you there, g2k. Happy Birthday! What a game, glad I could watch this one!
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Ah it was a great day!
Thanks!
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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Moncton boy comes through!!!! 0 fault on Pickard for either goal. Didn’t stand on his head, but stopped what he needed to. 109% the starter for game 5.
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
1 Cup
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 01:20 |
I would go back to Skinner for Game 5.
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Boooooooo. Booooooo.
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Jay
Messages: 561
Registered: January 2007
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
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| g2k wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:18 |
I don’t give a damn. Start Pickard Thursday.
He’s got confidence.
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They cannot go back to Skinner. No chance.
29 delivers every night in the playoffs. Absolute playoff beast.
That win was actually better the way it turned out.. Extra heartbreaking to lose 
"Initiative comes to thems that wait"
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g2k
Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
2 Cups
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| Jay wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:23 |
| g2k wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:18 |
I don’t give a damn. Start Pickard Thursday.
He’s got confidence.
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They cannot go back to Skinner. No chance.
29 delivers every night in the playoffs. Absolute playoff beast.
That win was actually better the way it turned out.. Extra heartbreaking to lose
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Kane crumbled that D man.
3-2 hockey game.
#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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watchman
Messages: 1412
Registered: October 2019
Location: River City
1 Cup
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...absolute agony
followed by...
...absolute ecstasy 
...this time, it's for real (isn't it?).
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 NZ Oiler Fan
Messages: 1189
Registered: October 2006
Location: Kensington, PEI
1 Cup
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Deserved the win and finally got it. Way to be average Pickard - that's all we're asking.
Heart sank when they tied it up, but Bouch with the insta response!
The panel crying because a Canucks fan "clipped Drai knocking a puck down with a high stick." You can F right off with that too.
If Pickard can just be average then I have zero doubt that we'll win this series. When is game 5?
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Leia
Messages: 410
Registered: May 2003
Location: England
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I'm not even playing and I'm exhausted after that last 10 minutes, thought we had it all sewn up till they did that peice on Picks and asking could he keep the shut out going and boom they scored, thanks Sportsnet......
We won in Vancouver the last time we played there, let's repeat on Thursday!!
Take me home, country road
to the place where I belong
to Alberta, to see the Oilers
take me home, country road
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:28 |
Deserved the win and finally got it. Way to be average Pickard - that's all we're asking.
Heart sank when they tied it up, but Bouch with the insta response!
The panel crying because a Canucks fan "clipped Drai knocking a puck down with a high stick." You can F right off with that too.
If Pickard can just be average then I have zero doubt that we'll win this series. When is game 5?
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Elliotte badly wanted that to be a conclusive high stick. Wasn't at all.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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halfafrog
Messages: 63
Registered: March 2006
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
No Cups
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No fricken way. None of those were bad goals on Pickard. One went off Nurse and one off a skate. He stopped every puck he saw. Made the big saves when he had to.
So this is what hope feels like?
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:22 |
| Adam wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 01:20 |
I would go back to Skinner for Game 5.
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Boooooooo. Booooooo.
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More than the goalies themselves, it's this team needing to play properly in our end. Low confidence goalies turn our players brains into scared mush in our zone. This team just loves to quit when our goalies look like they are sad defeated bums. Liked how hard these guys were battling in our zone tonight.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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halfafrog
Messages: 63
Registered: March 2006
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
No Cups
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If we could win a draw on in our D zone. We lost 3, maybe 4 in a row? Geez hard to exit the zone when you don't have the puck.
So this is what hope feels like?
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NZ Oiler Fan
Messages: 1189
Registered: October 2006
Location: Kensington, PEI
1 Cup
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Both Canucks goals were flukey deflections. Team PDO still somehow having luck go their way. You'd think it would normalize at some point, but nope...luck still going their way.
Lucky bounces & awful reffing (this game excluded) are the only thing keeping them in this series. No reason skillwise that we can't win this next one.
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kungpaobenji27
Messages: 340
Registered: August 2003
Location: Irving, Texas
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WHEW!!!! Glad they went back to separating #97 and #29 at ES.
Wouldn't mind going back to Skinner in the near future of these playoffs if needed...but this "benching" is honestly a part of the maturation & development process....and it SHOULD have happened in last year's playoffs against Vegas. Keep your head up Stu!
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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should have been a shut out.. all Vancouver could produce was point shots .. even on the PP.. hoping for ricochets off feet.. bodies.. which they got...
Oil got caught running around near the end.. some weak work along the wall..
but.. ALL'S WELL THAT ENDS WELL !!
F YEAH BABY!! 😊
[Updated on: Tue, 14 May 2024 23:03]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4418
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
4 Cups
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| kungpaobenji27 wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 21:42 |
WHEW!!!! Glad they went back to separating #97 and #29 at ES.
Wouldn't mind going back to Skinner in the near future of these playoffs if needed...but this "benching" is honestly a part of the maturation & development process....and it SHOULD have happened in last year's playoffs against Vegas. Keep your head up Stu!
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Holloway.. way better than Foegle.. guy has wheels, puck smarts, and stick skills..
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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feepa
Messages: 408
Registered: November 2002
Location: Edmonton
No Cups
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| g2k wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:21 |
| MJ wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:19 |
Fantastic birthday present for you there, g2k. Happy Birthday! What a game, glad I could watch this one!
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Ah it was a great day!
Thanks!
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This was also my birthday wish today!
A great day! Cheers birthday twin!
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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Am I biased or is asking Pickard "did you ever think you might never get a playoff start in your career?" a completely stupid waste of time question for a reporter to ask right now?
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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Bouch
15 points in 9 games. +8. 3 GWG's.
We freakin bridged him.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
5 Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 23:13 |
Bouch
15 points in 9 games. +8. 3 GWG's.
We freakin bridged him.
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Problem for later, but gonna have to unload a certain 9.25 to afford Bouch
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 23:09 |
Am I biased or is asking Pickard "did you ever think you might never get a playoff start in your career?" a completely stupid waste of time question for a reporter to ask right now?
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Bouch's reaction to Spector's question
https://twitter.com/OilerAlert/status/1790615853559607315?t= ik8UTpGp7GXkODMVwEYuJg&s=19
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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What an ending!
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RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
3 Cups
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Pretty incredible game. My youngest was sleeping and I woke him up with my yell after Bouch scored. Oops. 
I have said it several times. All the Oilers need is the goalie not to lose them the game. Pickard came in and was solid. The Oilers have been pretty good, especially the last couple of games, of limiting the Canucks to very few dangerous chances. They did that last night and all Pickard had to do was make the saves he should and he did that.
NUGE SCORED!! I was actually shocked when it happened. Good for him. I really hope it gets him going. He's part of their secondary scoring and they need him.
I thought Kane was excellent. Didn't get a goal, had some chances but he was impactful.
I thought the Oilers were the better team on Sunday but the Canucks goalie played well and the Oilers didn't get a save. I thought the Oilers were the superior team last night, they deserved to win. The Canucks got 2 breaks on both their goals. Thankfully they scored with 30 seconds left.
I thought lines 1 & 2 were good.
I thought Holloway played well. There is a spot for him in the top 6 if he wants it. I want to see him be more assertive. Use your speed, drop your shoulder and drive the net, don't worry about passing to Leon or Kane, you fire that puck then go bang in your rebound. He's coming. Go make that spot yours kid!
I thought the 4th line was decent and created some looks which is what you want.
The 3rd line is the only line that is a problem. McLeod is good defensively but still does nothing offensively. Foegele is costing himself money every game. Perry at his age isn't capable of driving a line anymore. His game is straight ahead, take it to the goal, bang in rebounds hockey and McLeod and Foegele right now seem very happy to spin donuts around the net.
But great game. I firmly believe the Oilers have been the better team and it could have been a sweep if they got a couple of saves in games 1 & 3.
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RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
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Blow me away how much whining Tocchet does to the refs. It's constant.
Kane gets a 4 min for highsticking. It wasn't intentional but he got him, he was bleeding. As much as I wish it wasn't 4, he was bleeding so that's the rule. Tocchet was absolutely giving it to the refs. What the hell do you want, you got 4 mins!
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 08:30 |
Blow me away how much whining Tocchet does to the refs. It's constant.
Kane gets a 4 min for highsticking. It wasn't intentional but he got him, he was bleeding. As much as I wish it wasn't 4, he was bleeding so that's the rule. Tocchet was absolutely giving it to the refs. What the hell do you want, you got 4 mins!
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Wanted the 5 because it was a cross check directly to the head. I bet the ref that called the cross check on nurse last game would have given the 5. Thankfully no ref last night that the Canucks have a 11-0 record with over last few years.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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RDOilerfan
Messages: 3908
Registered: January 2016
3 Cups
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 08:36 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 08:30 |
Blow me away how much whining Tocchet does to the refs. It's constant.
Kane gets a 4 min for highsticking. It wasn't intentional but he got him, he was bleeding. As much as I wish it wasn't 4, he was bleeding so that's the rule. Tocchet was absolutely giving it to the refs. What the hell do you want, you got 4 mins!
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Wanted the 5 because it was a cross check directly to the head. I bet the ref that called the cross check on nurse last game would have given the 5. Thankfully no ref last night that the Canucks have a 11-0 record with over last few years.
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If he thinks that's a 5 then Miller should have got more for his because he got him in the face with something.
Tocchet just needs to shut the hell up. It's ridiculous. It's not like the Oilers are getting way more PP's, they aren't. It's prison rules out there with his team being way more physical and cheap because they don't have the puck as much.
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Kr55
Messages: 10769
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 08:48 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 08:36 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 08:30 |
Blow me away how much whining Tocchet does to the refs. It's constant.
Kane gets a 4 min for highsticking. It wasn't intentional but he got him, he was bleeding. As much as I wish it wasn't 4, he was bleeding so that's the rule. Tocchet was absolutely giving it to the refs. What the hell do you want, you got 4 mins!
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Wanted the 5 because it was a cross check directly to the head. I bet the ref that called the cross check on nurse last game would have given the 5. Thankfully no ref last night that the Canucks have a 11-0 record with over last few years.
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If he thinks that's a 5 then Miller should have got more for his because he got him in the face with something.
Tocchet just needs to shut the hell up. It's ridiculous. It's not like the Oilers are getting way more PP's, they aren't. It's prison rules out there with his team being way more physical and cheap because they don't have the puck as much.
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One thing I did enjoy from tocchet was him bashing the heck out of half his team last night to the media. Talking about how some guys might need replacing in the lineup and how he had 5-6 passengers and questioning if his guys know they are in he playoffs.
Showing his potential to be a short shelf life coach.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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| halfafrog wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:36 |
No fricken way. None of those were bad goals on Pickard. One went off Nurse and one off a skate. He stopped every puck he saw. Made the big saves when he had to.
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It wouldn't be for anything Picard did - I'd go back to Skinner because he's the only one I think can actually MAYBE carry the team for two more rounds. It was great the way that worked out, but going back to him says - hey, we just needed to have him reset and now we believe in him and it'll be fine.
I don't think the Oilers will do that - I think Picard will be back in goal. But I think they SHOULD play Skinner because, frankly, they need him. And if we get past Vancouver, we'll need him even more. I don't like Picard's chances against either Dallas or Colorado.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Adam
Messages: 7174
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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On the topic of coach - we saw some really good and some bad from Knoblauch last night. The adjustments to the PK were very solid. They realized what wasn't working in the first three games and executed.
However, I don't really like his plan to hold the lead in the third period. When we're pushing, we dominate the Canucks, so why in the last 15 minutes do we move to a passive forecheck and just give them half the ice again and again?
Also I don't love the utilization of the fourth line. We put them out multiple times against the top-6 from the Canucks and every time was a fire drill. If you're sending them over the boards, you really need to play them against the depth guys from the Canucks and only them, because Boeser, Miller and Pettersson just chewed them up.
Also - I would not use them in the final couple minutes of the game either. It was a factor on the 2nd goal with Ryan, and so it was surprising to see us then subbing in Janmark right after we took the lead again. I'd rather see Nuge or Hyman out there to help close it down. They're quicker and just better players.
I think the 11-7 set-up might be better now anyhow. Gives more chance to limit Ceci's time (or Desharnais if he's struggling) and Connor Brown has added exactly nothing in his small time on ice in the series.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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Mike
Messages: 1397
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moncton, New Brunswick
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| Adam wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 12:00 |
| halfafrog wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 22:36 |
No fricken way. None of those were bad goals on Pickard. One went off Nurse and one off a skate. He stopped every puck he saw. Made the big saves when he had to.
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It wouldn't be for anything Picard did - I'd go back to Skinner because he's the only one I think can actually MAYBE carry the team for two more rounds. It was great the way that worked out, but going back to him says - hey, we just needed to have him reset and now we believe in him and it'll be fine.
I don't think the Oilers will do that - I think Picard will be back in goal. But I think they SHOULD play Skinner because, frankly, they need him. And if we get past Vancouver, we'll need him even more. I don't like Picard's chances against either Dallas or Colorado.
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I understand what you're saying, but I disagree 100%. They have to go back with Pickard. With a short leash, but he was as good as any playoff game Skinner has played, and much better than most of them.
The 2 goals that went in he had no chance on. I thought he was moving quite well and looked composed and confident. I see no benefit putting Skinner back in.
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