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Ottawa @ Edmonton (Game #40) [message #797431] |
Sat, 15 January 2022 22:30 |
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Oilfann Messages: 72
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Unfortunately it's time. Fire Tippet. We need a spark.
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Kr55 Messages: 10777
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12 in a row behind the bench for the Tipp.
Won't really count on the record books to officially beat Eakins and Green for 11 in a row because of the 2 wins when Tip was in COVID protocol, but we all know it happened.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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NetBOG Messages: 2951
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Mikko Koskinen doesn't lose that game.
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smyth260 Messages: 1081
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“We will win” - Ken Holland
Clean house or bust
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Ragnarok73 Messages: 2419
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Oilfann wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:36 | Unfortunately it's time. Fire Tippet. We need a spark.
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Not just Tippett- they all have to go now.
"There's no greater springboard to development than failure." - Craig MacTavish, April 13/15.
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"Sabres think the suck is their ally? They merely adopted the suck. The Oilers were born in it...molded by it."
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HamBlaster Messages: 989
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LOL. This team is a gong show.
The PK has gone to hell, the D has gone to hell, 5 goals against in the third to blow it against one of the worst teams in the NHL...
What a joke.
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Oilfann Messages: 72
Registered: December 2021
Location: Ontario
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NetBOG wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 05:39 | Mikko Koskinen doesn't lose that game.
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Skinner looked like he was using Koskis glove though
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Skookum Jim Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
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The worst loss of the season.
The 3rd D pair was absolutely useless.
Skinner looking more like an AHL back up.. if he's lucky
This team shouldn't spend one asset in trade, there is no point.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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g2k Messages: 2840
Registered: January 2003
Location: The Hood
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Kane will fix this.
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Oscargasm Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
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This team isn’t making the playoffs.
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
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Skookum Jim Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
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I think Kane just picked up the phone and dialed a Florida area code.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Oscargasm Messages: 5911
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 23:48 | I think Kane just picked up the phone and dialed a Florida area code.
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Well, I’d say who in their right mind would come here at this stage... but then it is Evander Kane we are talking about here.
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Skookum Jim Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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All my hope for this season has evaporated, even LD and McD can't score now.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Oscargasm Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
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You play Kassian as a top line RW.
You’re down Nuge, your 2LW/3C so you take your 2C and put him at 1LW.
You deserve this outcome.
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
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Category 3 - Considerably Musty
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Oilfann Messages: 72
Registered: December 2021
Location: Ontario
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 05:46 | The worst loss of the season.
The 3rd D pair was absolutely useless.
Skinner looking more like an AHL back up.. if he's lucky
This team shouldn't spend one asset in trade, there is no point.
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Your prob right but that decision should be mad closer to Trade deadline. At this point hire babcock. Sign Kane. Trade for chychrun. Nothing will matter until we have a goalie.
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Oilfann Messages: 72
Registered: December 2021
Location: Ontario
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g2k wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 05:47 | Kane will fix this.
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Might if he plays goal. Can't be worse
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K.McC#24 Messages: 2834
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All that practice and systems work, they score 4 but give up 5 in the 3rd including an EN. I can't see where this group is anywhere close.
Epic collapse, and the tragedy continues to unfold.
Kenny Holland needs to get to work. Plan A isn't working, and he's got some moves that need to be made.
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g2k Messages: 2840
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#firebob #screwitjustselltheteam #ownerisacreep
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Skookum Jim Messages: 4419
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 21:54 | You play Kassian as a top line RW.
You’re down Nuge, your 2LW/3C so you take your 2C and put him at 1LW.
You deserve this outcome.
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This loss was mostly defense and goaltending.. they score 4 goals let in 5 weak efforts.
Maybe Playfair needs to go, bring in Manson, waive Lagesson, bring back nemo, and slap Bouchard in the face a few times to wake him up, get him off the bong, send him down to Bako. If you can talk Arizona into a trade for Chychrun and send then Bouchard plus, do it.
[Updated on: Sat, 15 January 2022 23:00]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Oscargasm Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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Meh it’s fine guys, we’re overreacting!
*Looks at upcoming 10 game schedule*
Panthers x2, Lightning, Hurricanes, Caps, Preds... a flames team that lets be honest, is gonna physically (and likely mentally) dominate this team, a Canucks team that has been substantially better since the firings, these same Sens that just embarrassed you and the Habs (who you’ll find a way to lose to...)
0-10 coming up!
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
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Oscargasm Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
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Apparently media are in waiting mode... Connor left podium and it’s a bit of a delay for Kassian getting up there. Sounds like a meetings occurring.
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
Category 5 - Incredibly Musty
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stemhovlichski Messages: 349
Registered: March 2006
Location: NSR
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Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:57 |
Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 21:54 | You play Kassian as a top line RW.
You’re down Nuge, your 2LW/3C so you take your 2C and put him at 1LW.
You deserve this outcome.
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This loss was mostly defense and goaltending.. they score 4 goals let in 5 weak efforts.
Maybe Playfair needs to go, bring in Manson, waive Lagesson, bring back nemo, and slap Bouchard in the face a few times to wake him up, get him off the bong, send him down to Bako. If you can talk Arizona into a trade for Chychrun and send then Bouchard plus, do it.
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Well Perlini had a crappy shift, followed it up next shift with a goal and saw the ice one more time 5:23 total. Yamo was on for almost all of the ES goals against and got 16:20. I would put a touch of the loss on the bizarre coaching this team gets. They run lines not based on performance but on some kind of crystal ball, psychic intuition, pull em out of a hat, make em up on the spot hunches. The 4th line is not part of the future so it's not part of the now??? Freidman and Bieksa stated in the intermission that the Oilers need the bottom six fired up if they want to win. Coach promptly benched most of them. Brilliant strategies.
Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010
"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015
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Dave Tippett outcoaches Dave Tippett. Why is this surprising? He’s done it every stop in his career.
0-12.
Chicago, swept by Winnipeg. More of the same.
While Holland is a joke, Tippett can fore himself off to the sun. I don’t care how many coaches this team has has. Maybe hire the right one for a change
In fairness to Hall, I've wanted to throw a waterbottle at Eakins all season.
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Adam Messages: 7176
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:51 |
Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 23:48 | I think Kane just picked up the phone and dialed a Florida area code.
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Well, I’d say who in their right mind would come here at this stage... but then it is Evander Kane we are talking about here.
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He is known for making bad bets...
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#FireBobbyNicks
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Adam Messages: 7176
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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:54 | You play Kassian as a top line RW.
You’re down Nuge, your 2LW/3C so you take your 2C and put him at 1LW.
You deserve this outcome.
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You know, I actually didn't hate the lines tonight. They provided a bit more balanced attack then we often see with McDavid & Draisaitl together. Kassian is far from ideal, and had a bunch of bobbles tonight, but if those two are playing together, how much does the third guy really matter most of the time?
That said, I really question the choices when Tippett pulls the goalie. He sends out Yamamoto and Foegele, rather than Puljujarvi and Hyman. Also Yamamoto playing the replacement for Nuge on the powerplay. I think the big size and reach of Puljujarvi makes him more valuable out there, but then of course, I also think that I'd have flipped out Barrie by now on the PP to try to get it sparked.
Lots of issues tonight, and Skinner is going to take a lot of heat, but the whole team let down to start the third period. We were up, so it was like they thought it was game over already - didn't really force the play at all in the third, and then bang, bang and we're tied and then they're panicking.
The ridiculous thing is that we probably are going to get to a Tippett firing, just in time for a busy stretch of catch-up games. That won't put the team in a good position for success, but the management will be able to say they're doing something and REALLY trying.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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nullterm Messages: 1034
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 21:40 |
Oilfann wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:36 | Unfortunately it's time. Fire Tippet. We need a spark.
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Not just Tippett- they all have to go now.
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You start with Tippett. New coach is a band aid, and then you see if it stops the bleeding.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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g2k Messages: 2840
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K.McC#24 wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:56 |
Kenny Holland needs to get to work. Plan A isn't working, and he's got some moves that need to be made.
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Plan B? There’s a Plan B?
Be afraid then. Be very afraid.
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g2k Messages: 2840
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Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:48 | This team isn’t making the playoffs.
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They would just get their dicks kicked in anyway.
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g2k Messages: 2840
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Ragnarok73 wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:40 |
Oilfann wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:36 | Unfortunately it's time. Fire Tippet. We need a spark.
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Not just Tippett- they all have to go now.
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I'm fairly confident Bob Nicholson will give Holland a mile of rope so he can go Chiarelli mode and totally destroy the team beyond simple repair before firing him.
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Kr55 Messages: 10777
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Jim Matheson @jimmathesonnhl
A six week run with six out if possible 28 points is not a blip on screen. Oilers are easy to play against physically and we have said that for how long? No other way to say it: loss to Sens is a massive choke up 3-1
Matty concludes there is not enough toughness on this team. Time to move some skill out for more toughness I guess.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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stemhovlichski Messages: 349
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Adam wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 01:40 |
That said, I really question the choices when Tippett pulls the goalie. He sends out Yamamoto and Foegele, rather than Puljujarvi and Hyman. Also Yamamoto playing the replacement for Nuge on the powerplay. I think the big size and reach of Puljujarvi makes him more valuable out there, but then of course, I also think that I'd have flipped out Barrie by now on the PP to try to get it sparked.
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I think it was on the Gaudette penalty where the Oilers' centre (Drai?) took the faceoff, skated off the ice and then Foegele came on. Both he and Yamamoto ended up running into each other and falling down in front of Murray because they both were playing the same wing. Go back to that combo for the EN, yup.
I don't believe there is a system in place, or a plan, or a strategy at either the ice, coaching or management level (since 1992!).
Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010
"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015
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Mullet Messages: 40
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Ok so not buying the puck handling goalie is like an extra d. All 3 goalies have coughed up a significant amount of goals at the wrong time. Can you think of one time where their pick play won the game? Stay in the net.
While smith isn’t the issue he needs to go - how much to buy him out at year end.
Barrie and Keith also need to go it’s too much cap space gone for not enough return. We are leaking all over and need to be able to address gaps and no Holland isn’t the gm for that.
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g2k wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 05:32 |
Ragnarok73 wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:40 |
Oilfann wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:36 | Unfortunately it's time. Fire Tippet. We need a spark.
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Not just Tippett- they all have to go now.
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I'm fairly confident Bob Nicholson will give Holland a mile of rope so he can go Chiarelli mode and totally destroy the team beyond simple repair before firing him.
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Welcome to the Dark Side, or as we long time fans call it: "Reality".
This current team just stinks of the mismanagement of 2000-20019. How do you build a liability around Connor McDavid??????????? Hire your buddies, old pals and former teammates and hope for a statistical anomaly.
31 other jerseys out there itching for his name and number.
Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010
"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015
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nullterm Messages: 1034
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g2k wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 04:32 |
Ragnarok73 wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:40 |
Oilfann wrote on Sat, 15 January 2022 22:36 | Unfortunately it's time. Fire Tippet. We need a spark.
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Not just Tippett- they all have to go now.
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I'm fairly confident Bob Nicholson will give Holland a mile of rope so he can go Chiarelli mode and totally destroy the team beyond simple repair before firing him.
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Nicholson will hold onto Holland as a heatshield as long as he can.
Question is how long will Holland hold on to Tippett?
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Skookum Jim Messages: 4419
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Mullet wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 14:40 | Ok so not buying the puck handling goalie is like an extra d. All 3 goalies have coughed up a significant amount of goals at the wrong time. Can you think of one time where their pick play won the game? Stay in the net.
While smith isn’t the issue he needs to go - how much to buy him out at year end.
Barrie and Keith also need to go it’s too much cap space gone for not enough return. We are leaking all over and need to be able to address gaps and no Holland isn’t the gm for that.
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there was another play last night where Skinner came out to trap a dump in ring around.. hit his stick and bounced straight out 90 degrees to the front of the net.. luckily on that occasion there was an Oiler D-man there to collect the puck and clear it.. this was before the goal where he tried to pass it to Bouchard with a Sen in between them.. stupid play .. dopey play.
That play was the result of two dopes, Skinner and Bouchard.. Skinner for trying to pass it along the boards past a Sen player to Bouchard.. a high danger play.. and for Bouchard to place himself out of position to force a hopeless pass. Dopey x 2.
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Adam Messages: 7176
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Mullet wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 15:40 | Ok so not buying the puck handling goalie is like an extra d. All 3 goalies have coughed up a significant amount of goals at the wrong time. Can you think of one time where their pick play won the game? Stay in the net.
While smith isn’t the issue he needs to go - how much to buy him out at year end.
Barrie and Keith also need to go it’s too much cap space gone for not enough return. We are leaking all over and need to be able to address gaps and no Holland isn’t the gm for that.
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A smart team doesn't buy out a 40 year old goalie - they convince him that he's injured and he should take a seat on LTIR, or retire. There's just no compelling reason to take the cap penalty of another buyout there. If he's on LTIR, Smith's getting more money and hurting the team less. Only challenge is if he believes that he has another job waiting somewhere else if the Oilers were to release him.
I do think that when evaluating goalies, you do have to wonder about Dustin Schwartz. Hired only because he was a live body in the same building and knew something about goalies, I haven't seen a lot of great strides made by any of our netminders. I wouldn't keep him through the next coaching purge.
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Kr55 Messages: 10777
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Adam wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 23:00 |
Mullet wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 15:40 | Ok so not buying the puck handling goalie is like an extra d. All 3 goalies have coughed up a significant amount of goals at the wrong time. Can you think of one time where their pick play won the game? Stay in the net.
While smith isn’t the issue he needs to go - how much to buy him out at year end.
Barrie and Keith also need to go it’s too much cap space gone for not enough return. We are leaking all over and need to be able to address gaps and no Holland isn’t the gm for that.
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A smart team doesn't buy out a 40 year old goalie - they convince him that he's injured and he should take a seat on LTIR, or retire. There's just no compelling reason to take the cap penalty of another buyout there. If he's on LTIR, Smith's getting more money and hurting the team less. Only challenge is if he believes that he has another job waiting somewhere else if the Oilers were to release him.
I do think that when evaluating goalies, you do have to wonder about Dustin Schwartz. Hired only because he was a live body in the same building and knew something about goalies, I haven't seen a lot of great strides made by any of our netminders. I wouldn't keep him through the next coaching purge.
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The only thing worse than wasting McDavid's career and being an embarrassment to the hockey world would be hurting someones feelings while trying to be better. It's buyout or nothin. Smith is too much of a warrior to ever quit.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Mullet Messages: 40
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Adam wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 23:00 |
Mullet wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 15:40 | Ok so not buying the puck handling goalie is like an extra d. All 3 goalies have coughed up a significant amount of goals at the wrong time. Can you think of one time where their pick play won the game? Stay in the net.
While smith isn’t the issue he needs to go - how much to buy him out at year end.
Barrie and Keith also need to go it’s too much cap space gone for not enough return. We are leaking all over and need to be able to address gaps and no Holland isn’t the gm for that.
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A smart team doesn't buy out a 40 year old goalie - they convince him that he's injured and he should take a seat on LTIR, or retire. There's just no compelling reason to take the cap penalty of another buyout there. If he's on LTIR, Smith's getting more money and hurting the team less. Only challenge is if he believes that he has another job waiting somewhere else if the Oilers were to release him.
I do think that when evaluating goalies, you do have to wonder about Dustin Schwartz. Hired only because he was a live body in the same building and knew something about goalies, I haven't seen a lot of great strides made by any of our netminders. I wouldn't keep him through the next coaching purge.
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Reason Smith has to go is so we can get a legit number 1 and have skinner backup. Skinner waiver eligible next year and I am worried we lose him for nothing.
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Adam Messages: 7176
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Mullet wrote on Mon, 17 January 2022 08:09 |
Adam wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 23:00 |
Mullet wrote on Sun, 16 January 2022 15:40 | Ok so not buying the puck handling goalie is like an extra d. All 3 goalies have coughed up a significant amount of goals at the wrong time. Can you think of one time where their pick play won the game? Stay in the net.
While smith isn’t the issue he needs to go - how much to buy him out at year end.
Barrie and Keith also need to go it’s too much cap space gone for not enough return. We are leaking all over and need to be able to address gaps and no Holland isn’t the gm for that.
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A smart team doesn't buy out a 40 year old goalie - they convince him that he's injured and he should take a seat on LTIR, or retire. There's just no compelling reason to take the cap penalty of another buyout there. If he's on LTIR, Smith's getting more money and hurting the team less. Only challenge is if he believes that he has another job waiting somewhere else if the Oilers were to release him.
I do think that when evaluating goalies, you do have to wonder about Dustin Schwartz. Hired only because he was a live body in the same building and knew something about goalies, I haven't seen a lot of great strides made by any of our netminders. I wouldn't keep him through the next coaching purge.
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Reason Smith has to go is so we can get a legit number 1 and have skinner backup. Skinner waiver eligible next year and I am worried we lose him for nothing.
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The good news is that a few more games like last one, and the waiver worries just drift away!
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