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[Updated on: Tue, 29 June 2021 08:04]

97.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

Mike wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 08:32

Suomalainen wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 11:02 I'm guessing his agent used Seattle to get the deal signed. If I'm not mistaken, Seattle gets early negotiating to UFAs before the draft - and if they got to that point, he was gone. Edit: they can select UFAs - like Vegas did with Egelland Right - but I'm a pretty competitive guy. I'm guessing an NHLer is even more so. Surely he knows it would benefit the team he's going to be committing 8 years to to wait. Have a handshake deal and sign it 20 seconds after Seattle makes their pick from the Oilers.

Everyone is complaining this year about Tampa bending the rules to their advantage. This is why we aren't as competitive. You can bet the Lightning wouldn't be signing him today.

We've given him a long term deal in a place he's comfortable where he's playing with a lot of friends. He got the NMC, he got 8 years (one more than anyone else can give him). Are the Oilers really that worried that he's going to bail to go to an expansion team where he doesn't even know who he'd be playing with? You'd hope that the bond they've forged with the player isn't so tenuous that it can't handle a brief flirtation with a team with no players.

At least Ryan Rishaug got the scoop again. Those boots aren't going to lick themselves!

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Mike wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 08:32

Suomalainen wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 11:02 I'm guessing his agent used Seattle to get the deal signed. If I'm not mistaken, Seattle gets early negotiating to UFAs before the draft - and if they got to that point, he was gone. Edit: they can select UFAs - like Vegas did with Egelland Right - but I'm a pretty competitive guy. I'm guessing an NHLer is even more so. Surely he knows it would benefit the team he's going to be committing 8 years to to wait. Have a handshake deal and sign it 20 seconds after Seattle makes their pick from the Oilers.

Counterpoint: who challenges for the second round first? Seattle or Edmonton?

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Mike wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 09:07

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 12:03 Mike wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 08:32 Suomalainen wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 11:02 I'm guessing his agent used Seattle to get the deal signed. If I'm not mistaken, Seattle gets early negotiating to UFAs before the draft - and if they got to that point, he was gone. Edit: they can select UFAs - like Vegas did with Egelland Right - but I'm a pretty competitive guy. I'm guessing an NHLer is even more so. Surely he knows it would benefit the team he's going to be committing 8 years to to wait. Have a handshake deal and sign it 20 seconds after Seattle makes their pick from the Oilers. Counterpoint: who challenges for the second round first? Seattle or Edmonton? Well we're not in a position where I think we really should go for it every year. Maybe in 4-5 years once we've had a few more chances to fill out our roster through the draft, so I'll go with Seattle.

The other thing to consider is if Nuge (and he agent) trust the Oilers not to go back on their word or get distracted by a shiny bauble in free agency or simply decide there's another way to outsmart everyone. All things considered, it's probably best for both parties to get the deal done and have that security and not worry about losing the 13th best player instead of the 12th (and potentially the 5th).

I like the deal for right now and think it helps move the Oilers closer to a Stanley Cup. Yes, years 6-8 will probably be an overpay, but the window will likely be closed by then. Pretty crazy to think a 28 year old player is taking a pay cut. Strange times.

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Adam wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 08:54

Mike wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 08:32 Suomalainen wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 11:02 I'm guessing his agent used Seattle to get the deal signed. If I'm not mistaken, Seattle gets early negotiating to UFAs before the draft - and if they got to that point, he was gone. Edit: they can select UFAs - like Vegas did with Egelland Right - but I'm a pretty competitive guy. I'm guessing an NHLer is even more so. Surely he knows it would benefit the team he's going to be committing 8 years to to wait. Have a handshake deal and sign it 20 seconds after Seattle makes their pick from the Oilers. Everyone is complaining this year about Tampa bending the rules to their advantage. This is why we aren't as competitive. You can bet the Lightning wouldn't be signing him today. We've given him a long term deal in a place he's comfortable where he's playing with a lot of friends. He got the NMC, he got 8 years (one more than anyone else can give him). Are the Oilers really that worried that he's going to bail to go to an expansion team where he doesn't even know who he'd be playing with? You'd hope that the bond they've forged with the player isn't so tenuous that it can't handle a brief flirtation with a team with no players. At least Ryan Rishaug got the scoop again. Those boots aren't going to lick themselves!

Worth noting, Seattle can offer 8 year contracts. not waiting until after the draft is only a slight misstep with Nuge because there simply aren't enough forwards worth protecting. If they sign Larsson that's a brainfart.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

[Updated on: Tue, 29 June 2021 10:31]

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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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5 x $5,000,000

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I'm going to be Coors Banquet beer can half full on this deal, even if I was concerned about RNH's drop in performance the past 2 seasons, especially speed, and 5v5.

Positive POV;

Hoping the drop in performance the past 2 seasons were the dual effects of being newly married, and wide spread covid restrictions, interfering with off season training and focus.

Hoping this off season, fewer covid restrictions, personal pride, he'll get re-dedicated to his training and gain a step back in his skating, improve strength.

By the time he is in the 4th year of the contract, expect the increase in league cap will make $5.125M look like a decent deal.

Clearly wants to be an Oiler, and stay in Edmonton, a desire which shouldn't be disregarded.

Always a good option on PK!

Top NHL level on PP!

Plus .. the guy isn't even shaving yet, looks like a kid, hasn't fully physically matured, probably only 22 in Nuge years.. guy is just getting into his prime! 👍🏻

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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

Dragon_Matt wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 14:29

I don't think you can underestimate the value of players who can step into a C role as needed. injuries, Penalties or the inevitable McDrai on line 1.

Exactly.

And we'll have Nuge and soon to follow... Holloway

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Tic-Tac-Tao!
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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

CrudeRemarks wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 10:25

Adam wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 08:54 Mike wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 08:32 Suomalainen wrote on Tue, 29 June 2021 11:02 I'm guessing his agent used Seattle to get the deal signed. If I'm not mistaken, Seattle gets early negotiating to UFAs before the draft - and if they got to that point, he was gone. Edit: they can select UFAs - like Vegas did with Egelland Right - but I'm a pretty competitive guy. I'm guessing an NHLer is even more so. Surely he knows it would benefit the team he's going to be committing 8 years to to wait. Have a handshake deal and sign it 20 seconds after Seattle makes their pick from the Oilers. Everyone is complaining this year about Tampa bending the rules to their advantage. This is why we aren't as competitive. You can bet the Lightning wouldn't be signing him today. We've given him a long term deal in a place he's comfortable where he's playing with a lot of friends. He got the NMC, he got 8 years (one more than anyone else can give him). Are the Oilers really that worried that he's going to bail to go to an expansion team where he doesn't even know who he'd be playing with? You'd hope that the bond they've forged with the player isn't so tenuous that it can't handle a brief flirtation with a team with no players. At least Ryan Rishaug got the scoop again. Those boots aren't going to lick themselves! Worth noting, Seattle can offer 8 year contracts. not waiting until after the draft is only a slight misstep with Nuge because there simply aren't enough forwards worth protecting. If they sign Larsson that's a brainfart.

The issue with this for me is that it now requires 5 forwards to be protected, meaning we're pretty much committed to the 7-3-1 now. Without Nuge signed, I think you could have gone 4-4-1 and protected both Jones and Klefbom. Now, I think one of them is gone either way. If you sign Larsson too, then Seattle gets to decide which one.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks