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GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750188]	Mon, 23 December 2019 20:05

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750189 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 20:22

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Sounds like they are announcing through a tin can again.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750190 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 20:54

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LETS GO OILERS!

C'mon boys! Both the Lames and Hall and 'Yotes lost tonight in regulation! Vegas currently in tough down 3-1 to the Avs. Seize it!

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750191 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 21:05

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KLEF-BOMB!!!!
Well... a wrister but still!

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750192 is a reply to message #750191 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 21:22

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 20:05

KLEF-BOMB!!!!
Well... a wrister but still!

Neal is the Real Deal as a net front pp guy. So much better than Looch. Not quite Smytty or Holmstrom or Andreychuk greatness though.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750193 is a reply to message #750192 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 21:23

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Xombie wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 20:05

KLEF-BOMB!!!!
Well... a wrister but still!

Neal is the Real Deal as a net front pp guy. So much better than Looch. Not quite Smytty or Holmstrom or Andreychuk greatness though.

Even when he isn’t scoring he’s still effective on that unit. Like him on there much more than Chiasson.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750194 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 21:23

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Uh oh. Koskidown

Edit: he’s fine. Phew.

Not the greatest call from the refs though given the sight lines I can see how they didn’t call the Sedin’s offspring on that thigh to Koski’s chin.

[Updated on: Mon, 23 December 2019 21:30]

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750195 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 21:31

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She’s gettin’ chippy out there since Darryl (Darnell) won that fight.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750198 is a reply to message #750194 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 21:54

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 21:23

Uh oh. Koskidown

Edit: he’s fine. Phew.

Not the greatest call from the refs though given the sight lines I can see how they didn’t call the Sedin’s offspring on that thigh to Koski’s chin.

I hate Canucks broadcasters. They were lamenting that goalie interference call, saying that Klefbom clearly pushed him in. Klefbom didn't give him the lane, but he didn't shove him at all. Didn't mind the even-up call on P. Russell - he really piledrove his guy in to the ice...and I'll take a Pettersson/Russell trade-off any time.

It would be really nice to see some 5v5 dominance from 97 & 29 in the third...

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750200 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:00

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That’s a kicked in puck all day every day

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750201 is a reply to message #750200 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:01

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:00

That’s a kicked in puck all day every day

Even the Canuck homers are suggesting they think it won't count...but you never know with NHL refs...

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750202 is a reply to message #750201 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:02

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Adam wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:01

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:00

That’s a kicked in puck all day every day

Even the Canuck homers are suggesting they think it won't count...but you never know with NHL refs...

Case in point.

Wow. That's brutal.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750203 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:04

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Bah, league just likes seeing our top guys bleeding goals 5v5.

18 GF 34 GA since start of Nov for Drai.
23 GF 29 GA for McDavid since start of Nov

15 GF, 26 GA together since start of Nov

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750204 is a reply to message #750202 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:09

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Adam wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:02

Adam wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:01

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:00

That’s a kicked in puck all day every day

Even the Canuck homers are suggesting they think it won't count...but you never know with NHL refs...

Case in point.

Wow. That's brutal.

In. Sane. Not only is there an extension of his leg, he turns his skate inward to complete the motion. Brutal.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750205 is a reply to message #750204 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:15

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 21:09

Adam wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:02

Adam wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:01

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:00

That’s a kicked in puck all day every day

Even the Canuck homers are suggesting they think it won't count...but you never know with NHL refs...

Case in point.

Wow. That's brutal.

In. Sane. Not only is there an extension of his leg, he turns his skate inward to complete the motion. Brutal.

Wow. Let's just allow players to drive the net with their skates angled towards the net and goalie. It's not like they play with knives on their feet haha right...right? Nothing could go wrong angling your foot towards the net while moving towards said net at a high rate of speed.

Oh but a kicking motion, now that'd be dangerous!

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750206 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:16

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This 3rd period seems... sloped now.

On a night the Yotes and Flames lose while VGK is down 2 in the 3rd it would be quite “Oilers” to let this one slip away.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750207 is a reply to message #750205 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:17

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Xombie wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:15

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 21:09

Adam wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:02

Adam wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:01

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:00

That’s a kicked in puck all day every day

Even the Canuck homers are suggesting they think it won't count...but you never know with NHL refs...

Case in point.

Wow. That's brutal.

In. Sane. Not only is there an extension of his leg, he turns his skate inward to complete the motion. Brutal.

That was a kick to my eye. You see his leg move out and the knee bend and extend the leg. Just a terrible call by the referees.

Is that one of those iPad calls? That's the only way I can figure that one. No chance the war-room should miss that.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750208 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:21

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Yep. Bout right. Canucks muddy the water in the Pacific even more.

Too bad we don’t have a 3C. That’s what would really tilt the ice in the Oilers favour night in and night out.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750209 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:21

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THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one amazing 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750210 is a reply to message #750209 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:21

THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

I’ve been led to believe the Oilers are a 3C away from being a legit threat.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750211 is a reply to message #750210 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:23

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:21

THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

I’ve been led to believe the Oilers are a 3C away from being a legit threat.

2 top 6 wingers. A 3C, a solid 3rd line winger. 1 2nd pair and 1 3rd pair puck moving D and a goalie.

I am lead to believe a 40% 5v5 GF winger/PP specialist would fix all those positions.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750212 is a reply to message #750211 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:24

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:23

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:21

THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

I’ve been led to believe the Oilers are a 3C away from being a legit threat.

2 top 6 wingers. A 3C, a solid 3rd line winger. 1 2nd pair and 1 3rd pair puck moving D and a goalie.

Pageau is that versatile? I’m sold. Let’s give a 1st to get him, Kenny!

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750213 is a reply to message #750212 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:26

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:23

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:21

THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

I’ve been led to believe the Oilers are a 3C away from being a legit threat.

2 top 6 wingers. A 3C, a solid 3rd line winger. 1 2nd pair and 1 3rd pair puck moving D and a goalie.

Pageau is that versatile? I’m sold. Let’s give a 1st to get him, Kenny!

I think this team may save us from a deadline overpay this year :) Just by being itself.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750214 is a reply to message #750213 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:28

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:26

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:23

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:21

THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

I’ve been led to believe the Oilers are a 3C away from being a legit threat.

2 top 6 wingers. A 3C, a solid 3rd line winger. 1 2nd pair and 1 3rd pair puck moving D and a goalie.

Pageau is that versatile? I’m sold. Let’s give a 1st to get him, Kenny!

I think this team may save us from a deadline overpay this year :) Just by being itself.

I think we agree there Adam. This team is not a playoff team.

Poor Connor. Wonder how much more of this he’ll actually put up with.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750216 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:30

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Eriksson can score EN goals, but none of our guys ever can. That makes me sad.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750217 is a reply to message #750214 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:31

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:28

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:26

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:23

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:21

THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

I’ve been led to believe the Oilers are a 3C away from being a legit threat.

2 top 6 wingers. A 3C, a solid 3rd line winger. 1 2nd pair and 1 3rd pair puck moving D and a goalie.

Pageau is that versatile? I’m sold. Let’s give a 1st to get him, Kenny!

I think this team may save us from a deadline overpay this year :) Just by being itself.

I think we agree there Adam. This team is not a playoff team.

Poor Connor. Wonder how much more of this he’ll actually put up with.

wth did you call me?!??!?!

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- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750222 is a reply to message #750217 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:37

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:31

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:28

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:26

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:23

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:21

THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

I’ve been led to believe the Oilers are a 3C away from being a legit threat.

2 top 6 wingers. A 3C, a solid 3rd line winger. 1 2nd pair and 1 3rd pair puck moving D and a goalie.

Pageau is that versatile? I’m sold. Let’s give a 1st to get him, Kenny!

I think this team may save us from a deadline overpay this year :) Just by being itself.

I think we agree there Adam. This team is not a playoff team.

Poor Connor. Wonder how much more of this he’ll actually put up with.

wth did you call me?!??!?!

Hahahahahha. Wow. Umm. Wow. Sorry KR. Alcohol? Yeah. Blame it on the alcohol.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750226 is a reply to message #750214 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:46

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:28

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:26

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:23

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:21

THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

I’ve been led to believe the Oilers are a 3C away from being a legit threat.

2 top 6 wingers. A 3C, a solid 3rd line winger. 1 2nd pair and 1 3rd pair puck moving D and a goalie.

Pageau is that versatile? I’m sold. Let’s give a 1st to get him, Kenny!

I think this team may save us from a deadline overpay this year :) Just by being itself.

I think we agree there Adam. This team is not a playoff team.

Poor Connor. Wonder how much more of this he’ll actually put up with.

He's not Adam!

I have my concerns about the season too. It still looks like Holland is content to sit on his hands and blame this one on Chiarelli. Hard to believe we haven't even seen any young blood called up except when there's been injuries. At this point, you almost expect that if there was anyone hurt at forward, we'd just get Brad Malone.

Given the bonus situation, I would be scouring for a cheap goalie right now and burying Smith in the minors. Save some cap space by not paying bonus to a guy who's likely just to lose you most of those starts anyhow. I'd also send down Manning for someone cheap. Save every cent you can so that we can afford a better rental if we're still in the race in a month's time.

I think management needs to somehow signal that they think this team has a chance, because right now it sure doesn't look like it. When Elliotte Friedman is being told that they wouldn't part with Samorukov for Hall, that says this team is not thinking about this year. They should be - it's not fair to McDavid, Draisaitl, Klefbom & company to play them THIS much in a season that the management wrote off.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750227 is a reply to message #750226 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 22:50

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Adam wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:46

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:28

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:26

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:24

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:23

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:22

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:21

THis team is a bummer man. ANd sadly, we are not one 40% 5v5 GF player away from fixing it all. Need some miracles this summer.

I’ve been led to believe the Oilers are a 3C away from being a legit threat.

2 top 6 wingers. A 3C, a solid 3rd line winger. 1 2nd pair and 1 3rd pair puck moving D and a goalie.

Pageau is that versatile? I’m sold. Let’s give a 1st to get him, Kenny!

I think this team may save us from a deadline overpay this year :) Just by being itself.

I think we agree there Adam. This team is not a playoff team.

Poor Connor. Wonder how much more of this he’ll actually put up with.

I think it's fair to McDrai to try to build up something that will be very good for the back half of their contracts. That's the only way you keep them. Selling out every year to try to be playoff fodder with a 50% garbage lineup gives you as much a shot to keep them with the org beyond their current deals as missing the playoffs does.

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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750229 is a reply to message #750227 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 23:05

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:50

This is their prime, and the Oilers are still wasting it. At this point in his career, Crosby was a Cup Champ. Gretzky had been to the Finals and was just about to win the Cup. Lindros was just about to make his third multi-round trip to the post-season.

McDavid is a student of the game. He has to be aware that this is almost incomparable incompetence. Only one that's close is Lemieux, who also had only one post-season trip his first 5 seasons - but at least the Penguins cleaned house - the Oilers never really have.

The players have to be aware that Edmonton is starting to grow not even impatient, but apathetic. There were seats available for the game this week against the Canadiens!!! The city is just bored to death with ongoing suckage from the team, and that's in a season where McDavid & Draisaitl are still on pace for over 120 points.

I think the players need a lift, and I think the fans need a lift. I don't think the team can afford to throw in the towel, and I really don't think it helps the team anyhow. This year's first rounder is unlikely to even be a factor in the next few seasons, so simply blowing a season just doesn't help anyone.

And playing the wheels off the best players in a sunk season is stupid. If they get exhausted, they're more likely to get hurt. If they're hurt, it could impact next year too. If we are going to go for it and play them the most minutes of any players in the game, then we need to actually go for it. Otherwise, cut their minutes, and let them play more effective time on ice, and if the other lines blow it for us, then so be it.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750230 is a reply to message #750229 ]	Mon, 23 December 2019 23:09

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Adam wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 23:05

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:50

I hear ya, but there is not enough assets and cap space available to save this season. You're just hurting your chance to make the team better down the road by swinging for the fences this year. The damage was done the last 2 years, we should have fired Chia way earlier.

For sure though, Tippett needs to cool his jets with the ice time. His overplaying is hurting more than helping now. He just trashed Drai playing him 25 minutes a night over and over in Oct. And he just keeps throwing him out there no matter how badly being playing, ensuring he finishes each game as a husk. Our supposed defensive structure has been degraded into a full panic mode, praying the goalie will save us too. I'm thoroughly unimpressed with this team right now. Hope we can still find a way to be in the fight for a wildcard spot.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750235 is a reply to message #750229 ]	Tue, 24 December 2019 06:05

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Adam wrote on Tue, 24 December 2019 00:05

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:50

Okay okay. Here we go, a chance at redemption.

I agree with you here Adam! (Phew).

That’s the thing, why play McDrai absurd minutes if you’re not going for playoffs? I imagine it’s safe to think that Katz told Holland that playoffs are important to him, playoffs are important for the team, playoffs are important to the fans and most importantly playoffs are important to the City.

For the players... Winning breeds better culture. Winning breeds confidence.
For the franchise and fans, winning effects revenue. We’re seeing it this year. Rogers doesn’t fill. Even in tough economic times, if this team was a winning franchise, people would find the resources to fill the arena.

John Marino looks dang good in Pittsburgh, doesn’t he? I’d bet that if Edmonton wasn’t a perennial loser, golfing before the masters every year, Marino wouldn’t have stated he wouldn’t sign here, forcing the trade to Pittsburgh.

I get your argument KR. But! Patience is a virtue I don’t believe this fanbase will stand to be fed much (any) longer.

Holland doesn’t have the luxury of cap space to fix this quickly. But he’s one of 31 individuals in a GM role of an NHL franchise and he’s been doing it a heckuva long time. Radio shows are starting to talk about the little bit of cap room he’ll be able to utilize this summer... But wait let’s spend 7M on Darnel Nurse to play 2nd pair minutes and PK.

The players. The fans. The City. Connor McDavid... needs playoff hockey.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750236 is a reply to message #750188 ]	Tue, 24 December 2019 10:59

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Must have been Horvat's birthday no-call on his open ice tackle of McD, and they let him kick a goal in like its not an actual NHL rule. And then the weak call on the too many men late in the game at 2-2, back breaker.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750237 is a reply to message #750236 ]	Tue, 24 December 2019 11:22

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 24 December 2019 10:59

I think the time has come for the Oilers to scream from the rooftops about the poor quality and biased officiating in the NHL. I mean, there is a difference between whining and legitimately complaining about the refereeing and off-ice reviews.

Anyone know what the Oilers record is with and without Matt Benning? I'm not much for the fancy stats but I think he contributes more positives than meets the eye. I also recall that Benning's play takes a long time to get back up to speed when he takes a long time to recover from an injury.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750238 is a reply to message #750235 ]	Tue, 24 December 2019 11:31

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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 24 December 2019 06:05

Adam wrote on Tue, 24 December 2019 00:05

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 23 December 2019 22:50

I think this team needs to build some depth so every year isn't a sad crapshoot battle to be playoff fodder.

Sucks that fans are finally waking up. Now we are just like 95% of other franchises where the stands aren't full if the team isn't consistently good for multiple straight years, bummer. Not sure about Marino, may have just wanted to stay in the USA. He took a while to develop, and then he was looking at being a UFA right away. These guys pop up every summer. The flames just lost a good D the same way even though they were a godly team last season. They really need to close that loophole.

IMO, the only real solution is finding a way to make this team a consistent contender. And sadly the way that happens for teams almost every time is via drafting and developing guys and having cost controlled depth rotating in the org. When the timing is right, you make a move to try to put your team over the top, but really, we are not close to that. This team is so bad in so many places still.

If we can look beyond this season, there are some good things we could do with those assets we could have tossed for a rental. I would try to sell high on Neal this summer, toss a 2nd or a prospect with him if needed. I would toss in a 3rd pick to dump Russell's 4M (1.5M salary) contract. Just like that, you made the room needed to sign Hall as UFA, go for it if he is actually interested. Use the 1sts and prospect to try to get cost controlled pieces to fill the lineup out. To me that is a better use of those assets.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Vancouver (Game #40) [message #750239 is a reply to message #750236 ]	Tue, 24 December 2019 11:32

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Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 24 December 2019 10:59

Canucks get the most PP's in the league. They must all be getting side training from the Sedin's. Pettersson is already an expert diver. I'd go to far to say he's a generational diver. Sedin's weren't close to his skills at the same age.

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