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This forum has turned into a pessimistic cesspool of bitching and whining about the same topics consistently.

#Adam #Kr55 #CrusaderPi #inverno76

#RDOilerfan is possibly reformed, time will tell.

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#FireBobbyNicks

Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.

This forum has turned into a pessimistic cesspool of bitching and whining about the same topics consistently.

#Adam #Kr55 #CrusaderPi #inverno76

#RDOilerfan is possibly reformed, time will tell.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

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#FireBobbyNicks

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

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Adam wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 13:11

CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 13:49 Adam wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 13:45 CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 13:38 Adam wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 10:05 Kr55 wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 09:59 PoolParty wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 09:40 Tyler Wright and Archie Henderson both formally of the Wings have joined the Org. https://twitter.com/SportsnetSpec/status/1149334014462816256 Hard to not upgrade our scouting staff with any change. The pro scouting at least. Wonder how good Archie Henderson is at finding heavy hockey players. Former Oilers first round pick Tyler Wright comes back to the fold! He carved out an okay career...but not in Edmonton. Just 29 games and 2-0-2 in that time. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=5808 He was picked 3 ahead of Kovalev and 4 ahead of Naslund, but to be fair, in 1991, there wasn't nearly as strong scouting of Europeans. The team could definitely use new blood in the scouting department. I wonder if Chiarelli's brother and Messier's brother keep their jobs? Any highly sought after scouting jobs in Russia available? Lokomotiv is likely hiring! Matheson says we are losing Chiarelli. Damn it! And not to exile in Russia either! Quote: Jim Matheson ‏@NHLbyMatty Hearing Mike Chiarelli, Peter's brother and Oiler amateur scout, may be going to work for Minnesota Wild Quote: Alex Thomas ‏@Alex_Thomas14 No surprises here. Remember, Chiarelli hired Fenton’s son in Edmonton. Likely doing Pete a solid here. Mike Chiarelli had been an amateur scout under Peter every year since 2006. #Oilers

Had no idea Chiarelli's brother was a scout ...
P. Chiarelli has to go down as worst Oiler GM in its history... and in the NHL there must be a short list of who was worse ..

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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 14:55

Had no idea Chiarelli's brother was a scout ... P. Chiarelli has to go down as worst Oiler GM in its history... and in the NHL there must be a short list of who was worse ..

I believe he was the chief amateur scout the last 3-4 years. It was a package deal. Hire one Chia, get multiple ones for free!

Also Paul Messier is a scout.

(And how did you miss this?)

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Adam wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 15:04

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 14:55 Had no idea Chiarelli's brother was a scout ... P. Chiarelli has to go down as worst Oiler GM in its history... and in the NHL there must be a short list of who was worse .. I believe he was the chief amateur scout the last 3-4 years. It was a package deal. Hire one Chia, get multiple ones for free! Also Paul Messier is a scout. (And how did you miss this?)

Don't forget that every Lowe child has worked for the team. And i think Chia's daughter or niece as well at one point.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 13:55

Had no idea Chiarelli's brother was a scout ... P. Chiarelli has to go down as worst Oiler GM in its history... and in the NHL there must be a short list of who was worse ..

Just for fun, how would you rank the Oilers GM's since Sather? It would be interesting to see how the rest fall into place for people. Assuming Sather is #1 for all, I would go like this from worst to best:

5 Chia - Did lots, mostly bad, left a HUGE mess. Set the team back.

4 MacT - Lots of small moves in a short time, but not enough to really break much.
Ference/Nikitin/Pouliot contracts ouch.

3 Tambo – Not sure what he actually did? I think he napped a lot. Hall/Eberle deals were good.

2 Lowe - Plenty to criticize during his tenure, but he got Pronger and made the SCF, so that’s something.

** massive gap here ***

1 Sather – Self-explanatory.

Looks like they've got worse with each GM!

In Chia's defense, I'll give him some credit for at least having the balls to do something. Clearly, it was the wrong course of action, but unlike MacT and Tambo who couldn't seem to really do anything, Chia did do a whole lot!

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jds308 wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 15:27

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 11 July 2019 13:55 Had no idea Chiarelli's brother was a scout ... P. Chiarelli has to go down as worst Oiler GM in its history... and in the NHL there must be a short list of who was worse .. Just for fun, how would you rank the Oilers GM's since Sather? It would be interesting to see how the rest fall into place for people. Assuming Sather is #1 for all, I would go like this from worst to best: 5 Chia - Did lots, mostly bad, left a HUGE mess. Set the team back. 4 MacT - Lots of small moves in a short time, but not enough to really break much. Ference/Nikitin/Pouliot contracts ouch. 3 Tambo – Not sure what he actually did? I think he napped a lot. Hall/Eberle deals were good. 2 Lowe - Plenty to criticize during his tenure, but he got Pronger and made the SCF, so that’s something. ** massive gap here *** 1 Sather – Self-explanatory. Looks like they've got worse with each GM! In Chia's defense, I'll give him some credit for at least having the balls to do something. Clearly, it was the wrong course of action, but unlike MacT and Tambo who couldn't seem to really do anything, Chia did do a whole lot!

MacT did a lot! He had more trades than anyone else in the two years he ran the team. Especially in year one, when he had something like twice as many as the next nearest GM. It was constantly shuffling deck chairs to get another mediocre goalie or 6/7 defenceman!

I'm pretty much on board with your assessments:

1. Sather - so far ahead that it's not funny.

2. Lowe - Debated between Lowe and Tambellini. Tambo didn't make the team worse, Lowe usually did...but then Lowe did have that one amazing season, so he probably gets the nod. Better to have one shining moment and a whole lot of completely awful than just mostly awful. If this is an all-time NHL GMs or hockey execs, Lowe is still near the very bottom of the list though - especially since he's never really been gone, and he's never really been out of hockey operations here, weighing in on the decisions of all those GMs who've followed him.

3. Tambellini - I kind of consider this an extension of the Lowe GM-reign anyhow. They gave Tambo the position of GM because the only out in his contract with Vancouver was if he was GM, and we know that Lowe was HEAVILY involved as POHO. We even have documentary evidence of this since they filmed an ill-advised chronicles of how they rebuilt a hockey franchise back in to a new dynasty how they successfully wooed Eric Belanger to the organization!

4. MacTavish. He wins this by a whisker. Basically everything he did was bad. It started with that dreadful press conference, then every time he opened his mouth, he made the team worse. Almost the only good thing he did was give Nelson the head-coaching job, but even that he had to make in to a gong show, with the training wheels session, and then the insistence that it wasn't Nelson who was the reason the team was doing better, it was because he had traded for Klinkhammer...

When he was replaced (even though he didn't leave, and may not have even changed offices in Kingsway), you had to think that you couldn't actually have anyone perform worse at that job...and then came:

5. Chiarelli - Chia's legacy is going to always be that he made multiple trades where he sent elite talent away and only ONCE (Kessel trade) got an adequate return, and even then, it took a team completely imploding to get him there. Basically, he just got lucky that that deal wasn't Burmistrov and Siemens for Kessel. Amazingly, there still may be a team that hires him back in to management somewhere...(for what it's worth, I hope it happens!!!)

It now seems like Chiarelli is as bad as anyone could possibly be and we couldn't see worse than that...but I'm knocking on wood now just in case.

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[Updated on: Thu, 11 July 2019 17:03]

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 12 July 2019 15:49

Adam wrote on Fri, 12 July 2019 12:27 Quote: Rex Codex Libris ‏@CodexRex Tyler Wright took over the Red Wings' scouting in July 2013. Between 2014 and 2018 the Red Wings made 41 draft selections. Of those, and excluding the 2018 draft class, it would appear that the Red Wings have drafted one NHL regular in Dylan Larkin. Looking forward to seeing PoolParty's edit of this tweet! Uh yeah? Dylan Larkin. The fastest player in nhl history. Nothing pleases you people!

How dare you sir!

HE HAD A RUNNING START!!!!

[Updated on: Fri, 12 July 2019 16:05]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 12 July 2019 16:01

CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 12 July 2019 15:49 Adam wrote on Fri, 12 July 2019 12:27 Quote: Rex Codex Libris ‏@CodexRex Tyler Wright took over the Red Wings' scouting in July 2013. Between 2014 and 2018 the Red Wings made 41 draft selections. Of those, and excluding the 2018 draft class, it would appear that the Red Wings have drafted one NHL regular in Dylan Larkin. Looking forward to seeing PoolParty's edit of this tweet! Uh yeah? Dylan Larkin. The fastest player in nhl history. Nothing pleases you people! How dare you sir! HE HAD A RUNNING START!!!!

I will never not tell that joke. The fact that they never put an asterisk or had him try again is the best part. So NHL.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

[Updated on: Fri, 12 July 2019 18:22]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks

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