| The Return of Sam [message #730890] |
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 inverno76
Messages: 2343
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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Gotta give Ol’Keith some credit. We are gaining cap space.
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Gunn
Messages: 3
Registered: July 2008
Location: City of Champions
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| inverno76 wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 10:18 |
Gotta give Ol’Keith some credit. We are gaining cap space.
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Agreed. and while he's not what he used to be, he's at least a player people like.
Will be interesting to see him and Kassian on the same line... *collar tug*
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WhoreableGuy
Messages: 592
Registered: August 2006
Location: Calgary
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| inverno76 wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 10:18 |
Gotta give Ol’Keith some credit. We are gaining cap space.
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So is this just so we can fit Sekera in again or is there a bigger fish they are trying to pry at the deadline? Where do the Oilers sit now?
"Bah Gawd! Would somebody stop the damn draft!"
- Jim Ross calling the NHL Draft Lotto 2015 as the Oilers win
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| inverno76 wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 10:18 |
Gotta give Ol’Keith some credit. We are gaining cap space.
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How?
In fairness to Hall, I've wanted to throw a waterbottle at Eakins all season.
~nullterm 03/22/2014
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Kr55
Messages: 10783
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Basically the same cap hit. Spooner 3.1M after nyr retention, Gagner 3.15M, both signed next year.
I'll take it, cause it's Samwise vs that bum Spooner.
[Updated on: Sat, 16 February 2019 10:32]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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oilfan94
Messages: 410
Registered: June 2006
Location: USA
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I wonder if he and Brodziak will reminisce about the old days with Hemsky, Roloson, Torres, and Staios on the team. Hard to believe they played on the team that long ago now.
Heck, they also player with guys like Reasoner and Moreau. Honestly, I kind of miss all those guys. I think they all wanted to win more than most of the guys that play on the team now.
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CrudeRemarks
Messages: 1703
Registered: November 2010
Location: Edmonton
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If Gagner can get 8 points a game things are suddenly looking pretty good for the Oil!
You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.
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inverno76
Messages: 2343
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 10:23 |
Basically the same cap hit. Spooner 3.1M after nyr retention, Gagner 3.15M, both signed next year.
I'll take it, cause it's Samwise vs that bum Spooner.
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Didn’t realize 89 hit the lottery. Oh well. I own a Gagner jersey. That’s something.
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Magnum
Messages: 839
Registered: June 2009
Location: Rogers' Arena > Banff
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I wonder if Pool Party is looking at Sam in the locker room and thinking - this is what being developed by the Oilers looks like...
2015/2016 - This Kool-Aid tastes like McDavid flavoured Drain-O.
2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!
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Kr55
Messages: 10783
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
6 Cups
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Eberle -> Strome -> Spooner -> Gagner
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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NetBOG
Messages: 2951
Registered: January 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
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The only reason I can see for making this deal is to try Gagner in Edmonton again. Don't see him going to Bakersfield.
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Gator21
Messages: 175
Registered: February 2016
Location: Kelowna, BC
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The Messier trade tree lives on!
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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And recalled from the AHL. Will play tonight, per reports.
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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Keith seems to have learned the one for one thing from Chia.
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bigEfromGP
Messages: 816
Registered: July 2006
Location: GP, AB
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I hope fans keep their expectations in check. Gagner went unclaimed through waivers this year and has been playing in the minors. He's not the player he was when he left.
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:17 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:00 |
The president thinks he has the ideal male body.
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It's hard to disagree that he has the ideal male body.
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Magnum
Messages: 839
Registered: June 2009
Location: Rogers' Arena > Banff
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I miss Spooner 
2015/2016 - This Kool-Aid tastes like McDavid flavoured Drain-O.
2016/2017 - This Kool-Aid is starting to taste like juice.
2017/2018 - I'm drinking this Kool-Aid, in hopes that it's Drain-O.
2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!
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Looch
Messages: 14
Registered: December 2010
Location: Rexall Place
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Another "warm body" trade...and I'm not even mad this time! I'd take a flyer on a butter soft Gags over Spooner any day of the week - and TWICE on Sundays!
Welcome home, Sam!
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mightyreasoner
Messages: 520
Registered: October 2005
Location: Edmonton
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This is literally the best outcome you could hope for from the Spooner fiasco. I suggested this move about a month ago when Spooner hit waivers, so I'm happy.
I'm actually surprised Vancouver made this move. Perhaps they feel Oilers are far enough in the rearview mirror at this point.
Anyways, Gagner has some issues, but what he brings is something the Oilers can use. His numbers suggest there is still offense and he has always produced on the power play. I'd like to see Draisaitl / McDavid / Gagner for a few games and see if anything clicks.
Wash in salary and term and an AHL asset for an NHL one. Plus someone who has always been popular with the fanbase and actually has people feeling happy about an Oilers trade, which is strange and wonderful.
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mightyreasoner
Messages: 520
Registered: October 2005
Location: Edmonton
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| bigEfromGP wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 11:27 |
I hope fans keep their expectations in check. Gagner went unclaimed through waivers this year and has been playing in the minors. He's not the player he was when he left.
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He sure won't be someone to drive a line. I'm hoping he can finish off chances, either with McDavid or RNH driving a line.
He doesn't have the best wheels, but the hands seem okay. If he had time and space, I'm hoping he can be effective.
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:24 |
This is literally the best outcome you could hope for from the Spooner fiasco. I suggested this move about a month ago when Spooner hit waivers, so I'm happy.
I'm actually surprised Vancouver made this move. Perhaps they feel Oilers are far enough in the rearview mirror at this point.
Anyways, Gagner has some issues, but what he brings is something the Oilers can use. His numbers suggest there is still offense and he has always produced on the power play. I'd like to see Draisaitl / McDavid / Gagner for a few games and see if anything clicks.
Wash in salary and term and an AHL asset for an NHL one. Plus someone who has always been popular with the fanbase and actually has people feeling happy about an Oilers trade, which is strange and wonderful.
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Also gives them a right hand option in the faceoff circle. Agreed that it’s the best outcome re: Spooner. Cool to see Sam embrace coming back here with his twitter profile pic update so soon after the deal broke. Hopefully can do what we’ve been lacking and chip in some secondary scoring.
Can’t be worse than Spooner, right?
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overdue
Messages: 493
Registered: October 2014
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For whatever reason Spooner was pretty useless while an Oiler so I have no problem with them bringing Sam back. Hope he knocks it out of the park. ( Exceeds expectations which appear to be pretty low ) Maybe this redemption move will get the curse off our backs once and for all.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4421
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:30 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:24 |
This is literally the best outcome you could hope for from the Spooner fiasco. I suggested this move about a month ago when Spooner hit waivers, so I'm happy.
I'm actually surprised Vancouver made this move. Perhaps they feel Oilers are far enough in the rearview mirror at this point.
Anyways, Gagner has some issues, but what he brings is something the Oilers can use. His numbers suggest there is still offense and he has always produced on the power play. I'd like to see Draisaitl / McDavid / Gagner for a few games and see if anything clicks.
Wash in salary and term and an AHL asset for an NHL one. Plus someone who has always been popular with the fanbase and actually has people feeling happy about an Oilers trade, which is strange and wonderful.
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Also gives them a right hand option in the faceoff circle. Agreed that it’s the best outcome re: Spooner. Cool to see Sam embrace coming back here with his twitter profile pic update so soon after the deal broke. Hopefully can do what we’ve been lacking and chip in some secondary scoring.
Can’t be worse than Spooner, right?
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Don't expect much out of an AHL Gagner, never had good wheels, don't really understand this move at all.
Spooner 27, Gagner 29
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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CrusaderPi
Messages: 7804
Registered: December 2003
Location: AB Highway 100
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 13:40 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:30 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:24 |
This is literally the best outcome you could hope for from the Spooner fiasco. I suggested this move about a month ago when Spooner hit waivers, so I'm happy.
I'm actually surprised Vancouver made this move. Perhaps they feel Oilers are far enough in the rearview mirror at this point.
Anyways, Gagner has some issues, but what he brings is something the Oilers can use. His numbers suggest there is still offense and he has always produced on the power play. I'd like to see Draisaitl / McDavid / Gagner for a few games and see if anything clicks.
Wash in salary and term and an AHL asset for an NHL one. Plus someone who has always been popular with the fanbase and actually has people feeling happy about an Oilers trade, which is strange and wonderful.
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Also gives them a right hand option in the faceoff circle. Agreed that it’s the best outcome re: Spooner. Cool to see Sam embrace coming back here with his twitter profile pic update so soon after the deal broke. Hopefully can do what we’ve been lacking and chip in some secondary scoring.
Can’t be worse than Spooner, right?
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Don't expect much out of an AHL Gagner, never had good wheels, don't really understand this move at all.
Spooner 27, Gagner 29
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Gagner is 29!? That can’t be right.
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4421
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:45 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 13:40 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:30 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:24 |
This is literally the best outcome you could hope for from the Spooner fiasco. I suggested this move about a month ago when Spooner hit waivers, so I'm happy.
I'm actually surprised Vancouver made this move. Perhaps they feel Oilers are far enough in the rearview mirror at this point.
Anyways, Gagner has some issues, but what he brings is something the Oilers can use. His numbers suggest there is still offense and he has always produced on the power play. I'd like to see Draisaitl / McDavid / Gagner for a few games and see if anything clicks.
Wash in salary and term and an AHL asset for an NHL one. Plus someone who has always been popular with the fanbase and actually has people feeling happy about an Oilers trade, which is strange and wonderful.
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Also gives them a right hand option in the faceoff circle. Agreed that it’s the best outcome re: Spooner. Cool to see Sam embrace coming back here with his twitter profile pic update so soon after the deal broke. Hopefully can do what we’ve been lacking and chip in some secondary scoring.
Can’t be worse than Spooner, right?
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Don't expect much out of an AHL Gagner, never had good wheels, don't really understand this move at all.
Spooner 27, Gagner 29
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Gagner is 29!? That can’t be right.
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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=93938
By the way I'm hoping Gagner lights it up .. just realizing that its a very low probability of happening.
[Updated on: Sat, 16 February 2019 13:52]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:50 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:45 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 13:40 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:30 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:24 |
This is literally the best outcome you could hope for from the Spooner fiasco. I suggested this move about a month ago when Spooner hit waivers, so I'm happy.
I'm actually surprised Vancouver made this move. Perhaps they feel Oilers are far enough in the rearview mirror at this point.
Anyways, Gagner has some issues, but what he brings is something the Oilers can use. His numbers suggest there is still offense and he has always produced on the power play. I'd like to see Draisaitl / McDavid / Gagner for a few games and see if anything clicks.
Wash in salary and term and an AHL asset for an NHL one. Plus someone who has always been popular with the fanbase and actually has people feeling happy about an Oilers trade, which is strange and wonderful.
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Also gives them a right hand option in the faceoff circle. Agreed that it’s the best outcome re: Spooner. Cool to see Sam embrace coming back here with his twitter profile pic update so soon after the deal broke. Hopefully can do what we’ve been lacking and chip in some secondary scoring.
Can’t be worse than Spooner, right?
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Don't expect much out of an AHL Gagner, never had good wheels, don't really understand this move at all.
Spooner 27, Gagner 29
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Gagner is 29!? That can’t be right.
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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=93938
By the way I'm hoping Gagner lights it up .. just realizing that its a very low probability of happening.
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Oh for sure, with you on this. Ha... who scores first, Gagner, Rieder or Stolarz?!
Survivor CHAMP S52 | S66
OG's #MUSTWIN Scale
Category 1 - Lightly Musty
Category 2 - Moderately Musty
Category 3 - Considerably Musty
Category 4 - Severely Musty
Category 5 - Incredibly Musty
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 4421
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 13:01 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:50 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:45 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 13:40 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:30 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:24 |
This is literally the best outcome you could hope for from the Spooner fiasco. I suggested this move about a month ago when Spooner hit waivers, so I'm happy.
I'm actually surprised Vancouver made this move. Perhaps they feel Oilers are far enough in the rearview mirror at this point.
Anyways, Gagner has some issues, but what he brings is something the Oilers can use. His numbers suggest there is still offense and he has always produced on the power play. I'd like to see Draisaitl / McDavid / Gagner for a few games and see if anything clicks.
Wash in salary and term and an AHL asset for an NHL one. Plus someone who has always been popular with the fanbase and actually has people feeling happy about an Oilers trade, which is strange and wonderful.
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Also gives them a right hand option in the faceoff circle. Agreed that it’s the best outcome re: Spooner. Cool to see Sam embrace coming back here with his twitter profile pic update so soon after the deal broke. Hopefully can do what we’ve been lacking and chip in some secondary scoring.
Can’t be worse than Spooner, right?
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Don't expect much out of an AHL Gagner, never had good wheels, don't really understand this move at all.
Spooner 27, Gagner 29
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Gagner is 29!? That can’t be right.
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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=93938
By the way I'm hoping Gagner lights it up .. just realizing that its a very low probability of happening.
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Oh for sure, with you on this. Ha... who scores first, Gagner, Rieder or Stolarz?!
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Hmmm.. its Gagner ...but I'm picking Stolarz over freaking Toby Reider
Reider's hands are worse than stone.. he's got freaking re-bar in there..
[Updated on: Sat, 16 February 2019 14:26]
McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
Tic-Tac-Tao!
Keep on Rockin' in the Free World
P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,
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Oscargasm
Messages: 5911
Registered: May 2009
Location: YEG
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 15:15 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 13:01 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:50 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:45 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 13:40 |
| Oscargasm wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 12:30 |
| mightyreasoner wrote on Sat, 16 February 2019 14:24 |
This is literally the best outcome you could hope for from the Spooner fiasco. I suggested this move about a month ago when Spooner hit waivers, so I'm happy.
I'm actually surprised Vancouver made this move. Perhaps they feel Oilers are far enough in the rearview mirror at this point.
Anyways, Gagner has some issues, but what he brings is something the Oilers can use. His numbers suggest there is still offense and he has always produced on the power play. I'd like to see Draisaitl / McDavid / Gagner for a few games and see if anything clicks.
Wash in salary and term and an AHL asset for an NHL one. Plus someone who has always been popular with the fanbase and actually has people feeling happy about an Oilers trade, which is strange and wonderful.
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Also gives them a right hand option in the faceoff circle. Agreed that it’s the best outcome re: Spooner. Cool to see Sam embrace coming back here with his twitter profile pic update so soon after the deal broke. Hopefully can do what we’ve been lacking and chip in some secondary scoring.
Can’t be worse than Spooner, right?
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Don't expect much out of an AHL Gagner, never had good wheels, don't really understand this move at all.
Spooner 27, Gagner 29
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Gagner is 29!? That can’t be right.
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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=93938
By the way I'm hoping Gagner lights it up .. just realizing that its a very low probability of happening.
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Oh for sure, with you on this. Ha... who scores first, Gagner, Rieder or Stolarz?!
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Hmmm.. its Gagner ...but I'm picking Stolarz over freaking Toby Reider
Reider's hands are worse than stone.. he's got freaking re-bar in there..
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Hahaha couldn’t have said it better myself. Little kind boggling when the kid has scored at a pretty good clip for someone relied upon for secondary scoring, till this year.
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stotto
Messages: 49
Registered: November 2015
Location: edmonton
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I had just about given up all hope.
Samwise Gagner will help Frodo McDavid carry thy Puck of Power to the net and destroy the nasty orcses thwarting the team from reaching the almighty playoffs and thusly thy Stanley cup.
I hope Samwise scores 15 or more in the next 25 games and helps McDavid win the Art Ross.
Bye Spoon er!
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Goose
Messages: 1098
Registered: October 2006
Location: Vancouver
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At the very least this should make the pp better. Gagner will be the best player on the 2nd unit, or is a decent RH option in the first unit. I dont have huge expectations of Gagner lighting it up at 5x5, but I think this is, unequivocally, a good move. And how many times have we been able to say that?
Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games
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nullterm
Messages: 1034
Registered: July 2007
Location: Port Moody, BC
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I am so happy to have Gags back in blue & orange (or orange & blue?). Hopefully he gets a chance on McDavid and Draisatl line on the wing.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
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Xombie
Messages: 454
Registered: March 2004
Location: E-Town
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If nothing else Samwise is at least happy to be here.
Bob Marley and the (Hartford) Wailers.
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RDOilerfan
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I have no problem with this trade for the simple fact that whether it's Spooner or Gagner the money for next year was spent. Trading for Spoomer was stupid but it happened. Spooner to me was useless, there was no future for him on the team so might as well roll the dice and maybe you get lucky with Gagner. I doubt it but who knows. No one was good giving you anything for Spooner. Not even a pick.
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overdue
Messages: 493
Registered: October 2014
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Seemed like Spooner didn't want to be an Oiler. Gagner should be able to play better than him without even trying that hard.
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