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Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723916]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:00

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723918 is a reply to message #723916 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:00

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This was the sort of game you'd expect when Spooner is out of the line up.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723923 is a reply to message #723918 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:04

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:00

This was the sort of game you'd expect when Spooner is out of the line up.

Well played sir

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723925 is a reply to message #723923 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:06

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they played with some real jam in p1 and p2 - but couldn't buy a break/goal. tough loss as they failed to show in p3.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723928 is a reply to message #723918 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:09

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 22:00

This was the sort of game you'd expect when Spooner is out of the line up.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723930 is a reply to message #723916 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:14

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I knew it was over after that 2nd goal.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723931 is a reply to message #723918 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:19

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:00

This was the sort of game you'd expect when Spooner is out of the line up.

#ded

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723932 is a reply to message #723916 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:23

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Leaving the goalie pulled when gifted a powerplay with two full minutes left?

I mean, the other team can take long bomb shots without icing the puck if you turn it over. Not sure if it was just a bad decision or a lack of confidence in the PP without McDavid.... I mean Spooner.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723933 is a reply to message #723916 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:25

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Every single time the Oilers have a chance to make a meaningful move up in the standings with a win, they lose! I thought they played really well for a good half of the game but they just can't score! Not sure if Hitchcock or any other good coach for that matter can fix that. Conner can't do it all.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723935 is a reply to message #723916 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:32

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So... that's what the Oilers look like without McDavid ... faint

McDAVID! Oh YEAH Baby!!
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P. Chiarelli math.. T. Hall = A. Larsson, Yak= bag o'pucks (OK he got one right...) K. Russell = $4.1 M+NMC, G. Reinhart= M. Barzal + A. Beauvillier, J. Eberle = R. Spooner,

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723936 is a reply to message #723935 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:35

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:32

So... that's what the Oilers look like without McDavid ... faint

Yep, that's the best team Chia could put together to support the best player on the planet. Try to imagine this team if Connor were to suffer another long-term injury without vomiting in your mouth a lot.

Fire Chia. Now.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723937 is a reply to message #723936 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:36

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:35

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:32

So... that's what the Oilers look like without McDavid ... faint

Drai PPG without McDavid: 1.00

:)

And Khaira has more ES goals than Lucic.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723938 is a reply to message #723936 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 21:40

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:35

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:32

So... that's what the Oilers look like without McDavid ... faint

The upper management is still assessing.

Restored: "We're sucking hind banana here." - Pat Quinn, Jan 18, 2010

"...the Oilers have been rebuilding for so long that it’s hard not to be cynical." - NBC's Ryan Dadoun Jan 2, 2015

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723940 is a reply to message #723938 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 22:12

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We have to lead the NHL in EN goals allowed. If nothing else it’s gotta be goal differential.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723944 is a reply to message #723930 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 22:32

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g2k wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:14

I knew it was over after that 2nd goal.

I knew it was over in warm-up when they said #97 wasn't playing.

I saw some hilarious take on twitter today suggesting that Koskinen, not McDavid, might be the Oilers MVP to this point...

Wideman gets his first point as an Oiler though...despite just 6 minutes of icetime!

[Updated on: Mon, 03 December 2018 22:36]

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723945 is a reply to message #723938 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 22:33

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stemhovlichski wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:40

Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:35

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:32

So... that's what the Oilers look like without McDavid ... faint

The upper management is still assessing.

Nicholson's just putting his final touches on that forensic audit he started back in 2014...

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723946 is a reply to message #723932 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 22:35

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stemhovlichski wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:23

There's a school of thought that if you're going to go for it with the goalie pulled, you're better to do it early than late - especially if you have a man advantage anyhow.

The one I didn't understand was pulling the goalie again with 30 seconds to go down 4-1...trying REALLY hard for that all-important 4-2 goal...after burning the second half of the previous powerplay with the fourth liners on the ice for 45 seconds.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723947 is a reply to message #723945 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 23:25

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Adam wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 22:33

stemhovlichski wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:40

Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:35

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:32

So... that's what the Oilers look like without McDavid ... faint

The upper management is still assessing.

Nicholson's just putting his final touches on that forensic audit he started back in 2014...

So I guess we can expect to hear about a verdict after the next wine summit?

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723948 is a reply to message #723947 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 23:30

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 23:25

Adam wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 22:33

stemhovlichski wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:40

Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:35

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:32

So... that's what the Oilers look like without McDavid ... faint

The upper management is still assessing.

Nicholson's just putting his final touches on that forensic audit he started back in 2014...

So I guess we can expect to hear about a verdict after the next wine summit?

Maybe not this next one...but soon, for sure soon. They're just assessing right now. It's alright. Chia's got a plan...

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723949 is a reply to message #723918 ]	Mon, 03 December 2018 23:39

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:00

This was the sort of game you'd expect when Spooner is out of the line up.

When I heard Spooner was not dressing, I said "to hell with this" and I sat out as well, didn't even PVR it. I'm a damned psychic. icon_nod

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723950 is a reply to message #723946 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 00:04

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Adam wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 22:35

stemhovlichski wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:23

Old school of thought was try to go 45-60 seconds 5 on 4 with your G ready to pass up any dumped pucks, tiring out the opposition and then pulling the G for the 6 on 4 hoping the opponent hasn't had a line change. How many empty net goals against this year? 7?

And yes to your second point. Yes indeed. Bringin' back memories of Taylor Hall screaming at Renney.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723951 is a reply to message #723950 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 00:15

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stemhovlichski wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 00:04

Adam wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 22:35

stemhovlichski wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:23

According to this site - https://morehockeystats.com/teams - seven so far this year, on only 8 pulls. Not certain if the one tonight is already included. We've yet to score with the goalie pulled too.

Other teams have pulled their goalie 10 times against us, scoring once...but we've only managed two empty net goals for...I'd hazard a guess that the gutless style that McLellan preached kept the players from making any attacks on the empty net unless it was a sure thing...

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723952 is a reply to message #723936 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 00:27

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Ragnarok73 wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 20:35

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 03 December 2018 21:32

So... that's what the Oilers look like without McDavid ... faint

This game minus McD just magnifies the pure IDIOCY of trading a line driver like Taylor Hall for a stay at home defenseman. Stupid then, even more stupid now, especially when you consider you had that guy for $6M and term, and where salaries are going today.

That team tonight barely looked NHL caliber, that's a bottom 3 lotto team without McD .. Yikes cry

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723953 is a reply to message #723952 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 07:53

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Ben Pouliot had 13 goals last year.

Maybe sign him as a UFA?

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2018/2019 - Another round of Drain-O, good sir!

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723954 is a reply to message #723953 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 08:21

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Magnum wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 07:53

Ben Pouliot had 13 goals last year.

Maybe sign him as a UFA?

.....that would be an NHL first....sign a player and pay him on a buyout at the same time...

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723955 is a reply to message #723916 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 09:36

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No doubt it's gonna be near impossible to score with McDavid out of this lineup, but gotta give Drai a bit of credit. He had a good game.

Corsi stats were 26-9 in Drai's favour when he was out there, shots on goal 10-3. Helped create our one goal, was out for none against. He did his job, and handled playing with a mish-mash of wingers all night pretty well. Hitch took this as a chance to see Drai on his own line and was trying to find some chemistry. Might be time again to put Drai on the 2nd line when McDavid is back, they are getting way too cute playing together again.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723962 is a reply to message #723955 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 11:05

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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 08:36

Leon can drive a line, but where the hell has Nuge gone? Remember this used to be our #1 center? He does a lot of good things, but driving offence does not seem to be in his tool box anymore. "Paging RNH... We could really use some of that first overall pedigree right now!"

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723970 is a reply to message #723962 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 12:33

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jds308 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 10:05

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 08:36

Outa luck, its in New Jersey

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723971 is a reply to message #723962 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 12:58

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jds308 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 11:05

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 08:36

Did you see the winger group from last night? There wasn't a lot of help for #29 and #93...

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723972 is a reply to message #723971 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 13:05

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Adam wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 12:58

jds308 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 11:05

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 08:36

Did you see the winger group from last night? There wasn't a lot of help for #29 and #93...

2 posts for Pulju, while playing a lot of minutes vs Seguin and Benn. That's, at the very, least nice to see.

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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723976 is a reply to message #723972 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 13:50

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....McDavid practicing with the Oilers in St. Louis Tuesday afternoon...Talbot expected to start in goal for the Oilers Wednesday night against the Blues...

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/blog-practice-updates-124/c- 302593136

..."Draisaitl-McDavid-Chiasson

Khaira-RNH-Puljujarvi

Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian

Caggiula-Spooner/Russell-Rattie

The defence pairings are as follows:

Klefbom-Larsson

Nurse-Russell

Gravel-Benning

Garrison-Wideman"....

...thought Hitchcock wanted Lucic to go to the front of the net, but he seems to spend a lot of time along the boards fighting to do something productive along the boards....I'll admit I'm biased against the way Lucic contributes to the Oilers on the ice, but if Ryan Smyth is still looking for some work, maybe he can be a short-term consultant and teach Lucic how to get in the opposing goalie's face, even if it means getting slashed and shoved....

....good spot to give Talbot a start in St. Louis...may he have a great game....

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723977 is a reply to message #723971 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 14:03

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Adam wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 11:58

jds308 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 11:05

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 08:36

Did you see the winger group from last night? There wasn't a lot of help for #29 and #93...

I just find it odd that aside from McDavid everyone else on the team tends to take a turn getting ripped by the media/fans at one point or another... Even Leon (who's on pace for 90 pts). But Nuge also seems to be exempt from criticism, why? He's supposed to be a top 6 center, and I think on most teams he would be, but the guys ability to create offence has disappeared unless he's on 97's wing! Taylor Hall wasn't wasn't on his junior team, and he was driving offence. How is it that it's now ok for him to just play a solid defensive game and that's good enough? I think it's time for baby Nuge to man up, and take charge with or without McDavid. I think he's got more offence to give, but has settled into a roll where the pressure and expectations tend to fall on 97 & 29, leaving him somewhat "safe".

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #723993 is a reply to message #723977 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 19:23

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Quiet there Mr. Hrudey! You know not of what you speak!

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #724002 is a reply to message #723993 ]	Tue, 04 December 2018 20:23

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welcometotheOC wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 19:23

Quiet there Mr. Hrudey! You know not of what you speak!

hehe, yeah, we have to make up for Hrudey still calling Nuge a 3rd line C. That's our job as good fans.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Dallas (Game #27) [message #724010 is a reply to message #723962 ]	Wed, 05 December 2018 00:10

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jds308 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 11:05

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2018 08:36

Well he is on pace for career highs in points so there is that. He is turning into a pretty amazing defensive center too. His reads and positioning are really good. I cant complain about Nuge.

Really liking the Hitchcock experiment so far. The amount of grit and intensity is night and day. Turning this team from a country club into a hockey club.

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