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Re: 2026 Mens Olympic Team [message #849394 is a reply to message #849392 ]	Wed, 07 January 2026 14:31

Adam
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6 Cups

I tend to agree that Hyman is as much luck as skill...plus the Oilers didn't convince him to come here for less or anything - he got a monster contract. I also tend to agree that if he had gone to most other places that contract wouldn't look nearly as good now. He has played his entire tenure with the Oilers next to McDavid or Draisaitl and on PP1. He should get some credit - he's figured out how to play with them and he's made the most of opportunities. We've seen when others are in the spot that it's not automatic that the 5th guy on that PP gets a bunch of points. But I agree that Kenny just had a bag of money that summer, so was in a hurry to spend it on the shiniest toy he could find and then get to the cabin. And that whenever else he tried to do that in his time here, he failed.

I do think Chiarelli gives him a run for his money as the worst ever because the Hall and Reinhart deals were so incredibly bad. Even HE KNEW when he did it that the Hall one was bad and so while being more tight-lipped generally, he looped in Stauffer and Rishaug to try to run cover for him there. He had his fair share of bad signings too - and didn't get much for discounts there either. Lucic of course, but overpays for many depth players, the buyout of Gryba, etc etc etc...there were lots of issues. He and Holland are 1A/1B for me.

Holland has what none of the rest of them had though. McDavid and Draisaitl in their prime for pretty much his entire tenure here. Despite that, he takes the better part of three years to even agree that the Oilers have a shot at the Cup. He never gets a good goalie at any point, going with Smith/Koskinen for most of that period, and then moves to Campbell/Skinner. With the exception of Ekholm, his deadline adds are all really underwhelming. I'm not someone who rues trading draft picks for rentals, but you'd like to hope that some of them make some impact. Here's a run-down of everyone we got at a deadline in his time here:

2020 - Ennis, Green, Athanasiou
2021 - Kulikov
2022 - Kulak, Brassard
2023 - Ekholm
2024 - Henrique, Stecher (Stecher was damaged goods and unavailable for all but 7 regular season games)

I mean, Kulak was steady but the rest barely move the needle. Most people probably forgot that someone like Brassard was even ever on the team. Those generally weren't moves that got us over the hump or made us more competitive against the Colorados and Vegases.

With the benefit of hindsight, his drafting was pretty terrible and included some massive misses with 1st rounders.

When you also throw in the fact he was, for most if not all of his time here, the highest paid GM in hockey? He's a complete disaster.

That MacTavish, who in his first months as GM hired the worst Oilers coach of all-time and destroyed the confidence of his future-Vezina nominated goaltender, isn't in the top two conversation is incredible. MacT's tenure is ridiculous. Getting so little for Hemsky, Petry and even Horcoff because he telegraphed his every intention through the press. Loading pressure on guys like Schultz by awarding him the future Norris after his rookie year. Allowing his coach to completely destroy the trade value of guys like Yakupov before moving them for nothing. Declaring the goaltending box "checked" after getting Ben Scrivens and Victor Fasth...he's got such a short tenure compared to most, but man...he made the most of his time.

Tambellini - I have ranked higher up as his dithering served a useful purpose. He didn't make any mind-numbingly stupid trades. His worst sins are things like trading for only Jerrod Smithson at the deadline when the team was in a playoff position for the first time in 5 years and he knew Hemsky was skating on a broken foot. He was not good, but he didn't trade the best players for a bag of pucks.

Lowe probably the best of the Bad Batch, simply because of 2005-06 and the incredible run of savvy moves he made in building that team. He probably should get SOME of the blame of what follows with the ensuing GMs as his fingers are always all over the team but he wasn't specifically in that chair which muddies the water and gives him a little cover. Still some unbelievable moments there - the Comrie holdout and trade to Anaheim/Philadelphia looms really large.

In short, congrats everyone on staying fans for so long. That's a level of dedication that's nothing short of spectacular. We're all suckers for punishment, I guess.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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